I know I am being unreasonable about this

You know, perhaps you are at the best weight for you.

You eat well, you exercise well, there is probably nothing wrong with you except the medical fixation on bmi when it probably isn’t appropriate. https://www.urmc.rochester.edu/news/publications/health-matters/is-bmi-accurate#:~:text=BMI%20came%20from%20the%20work,the%20purpose%20of%20distributing%20resources.

I’m a lot younger than you but feel the same way, had a conversation with DH about it in fact. I am not naturally slim, it takes a lot of work and effort every single day to stay slim. My body naturally if I just eat according to hunger and don’t kill myself with hard exercise pretty much daily is a bit overweight.

I’m 5 ft 7 and if I just left my body to sit naturally without putting lots of effort in, it would comfortable be between 12.5 and 13 stone. I don’t feel confident at that weight but I’m an hourglass so naturally ‘curvy’ and that’s where my body is comfortable.

As I say, I have to go to enormous efforts to stay slim. At my slimmest as an adult I was 10 stone 6 and I honestly looked skeletal, I was tiny and fit into DS’s 15-16 year clothing. This was because I was running almost daily and barely eating. I just can’t naturally be that slim without almost killing myself.

My Mum is taking ozempic. Doesn’t exercise at all. Wants the easy route. I feel really pissed off tbh. The massive work I’ve had to put in over the years to maintain my weight and people just cheat with expensive jabs. It isn’t fair.

OP, if as you state, you are just above a “healthy”BMI (I am assuming you are maybe 25-26) then why do you want to lose a further 2 stone? I used WLI to get from 31 to 25 BMI, and I am happy with that. I am now a size 12 & look great in clothes & not too gaunt in the face (though a bit) I suspect you have a similar build to me ( think rugby player) Some people who lost weight the same time I did went from 35+ BMI to 18-19 BMI. They post pictures & they look skinny/scrawny (though muscled up) & really dreadful in the face. Are your goals realistic? We all have to struggle to maintain. I am a gym rat now, v active, never snack & eat two small meals a day. That is my life, but I am now happy to look in the mirror, & can move with ease.

Whenever anyone posts on here about wanting to lose weight, on they come, shouting about WLIs, even in cases where the OP has made it clear that they don’t want to take them.

“but why not? WHY NOT?!”

Defensive as fuck that someone’s refusal to take them is an indirect criticism of their choice to take them.

It is tiresome.

Perhaps you didn’t mean this as cruelly as I read it.

The Op has not said anything against WLI, just that they are not for her. The 'cult' will not eat her alive, we save that for people who call it cheating

eek OP you’re going to get eaten alive by the WLI cult.

Which is sort of ironic.

I think a lot of people might not realise many of us on the WLI have already lost the weight by not ‘cheating’; in the way the OP describes; slowly, depriving yourself, no thank you at special occasions and going to bed hungry … we all know what it’s like. I felt like I was permanently in conflict with myself and either deprived and miserable overweight and miserable.

I started gaining weight at 16, when my mum died. It wasn’t too dramatic at first, just top end of my BMI (although I felt massive at the time) and I’ve been on the lifers diet since; lose weight, feel great, inevitably goes back on, cycle starts again.

It’s a shit way to live and I’m sorry if not living in torment upsets anyone but I do find it weird … the injections are there, if you’ve still got two stone to lose you probably do just fall into obese category so what’s stopping you?

The people taking the jabs but not working out and strength training will be slim, but they won’t be strong. Keep strength training and as you get older you’ll age better you’ll be able to carry your own shopping. You’ll be able to get up from the toilet etc. If they are just losing weight but not doing the exercise, they will struggle.

I used jags and am no longer on them. I have to work incredibly hard not to regain. I'm mid 40s and perimenopausal, so even with them I couldn't reach the weight/size I might have been in my 20s or even 30s with a similar lifestyle. So although you probably think I'm a big cheat for using them, everyone ends up in the same boat in the end, working your butt off to avoid undoing all the work, unless you want to be on them for life.

Losing 5 stone is amazing, and it sounds like you've made huge changes and you are much more active and you will be much healthier for it even if you can't lose as much as you might ideally have wanted to. You're lapping everyone who's still on the couch and hasn't got beyond thinking about change.

Why can’t you take the jabs?

How is it cheating exactly? I wasn't aware weight loss is a competitive sport.

YANBU, it is cheating!

Who exactly is it cheating? Someone taking WLI is not affecting the ability of another person to lose weight.

Bravo for losing the 5 stone, that's a huge amount and amazing. I'm assuming you are now at a healthy weight? Or there abouts?

The problem with weight, unlike other things that impact our health, is it's inextricably linked with our image and it's naive to say that doesn't matter. Still your health matters more.

Weight loss jabs are amazing for people who have been struggling their whole lives with their weight and need to get it down for health reasons but it does have side effects. A friend who is on them has really struggled with the side effects and had to come off them. The weight is going back on and she actually feels less healthy.

Even if you haven't got to your goal weight, your movement and nutrition mean at 54 years old you are going to be healthier than most and long term that's what will lead to happiness.

How far away are you from "normal" BMI? I sort of feel the same (same sort of age). I am just above normal BMI but I have to work fucking hard to stay there. I eat really well, work out (weights, running) and ya, I'm OK and healthy but I have been slimmer in my life and feel better when I'm slimmer. Two more stone might be a bit much but a stone and half would be perfect. I have to tell myself over and over again that it's OK where I am and actually I am healthy which is the most important thing. Also, the way I eat and exercise is really really good for long term health (if thinking about microbiome, cholesterol levels, bone density, mental health) and I need to focus on those wins and not watch other people melting away on jabs.

YANBU, it is cheating!

Why can’t you take them?