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Massive increase in cost for lessons, is this normal?

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WouldRatherBeOnaBeach · 03/12/2025 02:18

As per title, one of my children has flute lessons. Heard last night from the teacher guy that the lesson will be going up from £32 to £40 in the new year, for the same amount of time.

Daughter loves the lessons, but our money is very tight. Husband gives me £85 for the week and I have to find this lesson money out of it as well as feed a household of 5.

I dont understand if things are going up by 3% (or whatever it is ), how are some things going up by SO much. Hubby says I should just pay it as the teacher might not have increased his rates for years, but we’ve only been doing the lessons since the summer and the percentage increase feels huge.

(The teacher is a guy my husband used to work with, not sure if this could be why he just wants me to shut up and pay, to save his embarrassment?!)

I already find it such a juggle to make sure everything is covered on such a low income, I am feeling sad that I now have this additional stress.

Is it me? Am I being unreasonable??

OP posts:
eqpi4t2hbsnktd · 03/12/2025 11:21

Our daughters tutor went up from £40 to £50 per hour. piss take but he is really good

WouldRatherBeOnaBeach · 03/12/2025 11:18

Thanks for the messages.

No, it’s not financial abuse. I get every penny after bills and fuel. Hubby is a vicar. I don’t earn as we have a newborn and also, because of his job, I wouldn’t be able to, as he can be called away anytime and has several village churches in his care. He is only allowed one day off per week, so if I worked that day when baby is older, I would never see him. For the same reason, he can’t get a part time job either, he is essentially permanently ‘on call’.

The money part is tricky as they aren’t technically employed, so he gets £1997 for the month but could work 50 plus hours per week, which I don’t think is minimum wage even?
However they would say that we get to use a house for free. (A draughty one we can’t afford to heat!). I read on MSE a few weeks ago that any housing provided for workers can only count as max £70 per week but they count it as more to maintain the ‘pay package’ is more.
I would of course much prefer for there to be the option of proper pay and sorting out our own housing, but vicars aren’t afforded that kind of decency sadly. Hubby had a well paid job before so this feels like an awful squeeze!
I worry about what happens when he stops as we haven’t been putting into our own home, but that’s another story.

I do get child benefit, but I tend to ringfence that separately and keep it for shoes and other needs like that for the children.

We have had to move around loads for husband to do his chosen job and as such, the music has been the only constant.

No, we aren’t entitled to any UC as we have a tiny one bed place mortgaged that we let a friend stay in currently, so apparently that makes us not entitled, despite the fact we couldn’t fit in there if we tried 🤣
I did the benefit calculator the other day and would be a lot better off leaving him to the draughty house and squeezing into our flat, but I think that would massively impact the children as they would never see him.

I actually don’t have an issue with the £10 per person for food for the week. We are veggie and I have always batch cooked. We eat really well and I’m shocked when I have read in the past on here how much people spend on food!
(We don’t buy snacks and sugary stuff, but the meals we eat are good and balanced).

I posted because I was in utter disbelief that things can go up by such a high percentage. Especially given that wages clearly won’t!
I do feel the kids pay enough for his life choices and so to stop the lesson would break my heart to be honest as she loves it so much.

OP posts:
divorcinganabsolutewanker · 03/12/2025 11:14

Blueuggboots · 03/12/2025 02:22

how on earth do you feed a family of 5 on £85 a week??!!

why are you being given so little money? Do you work? Do you have access to the finances?

If I'm broke I can feed 4 of us on 60 euro.

Floundering66 · 03/12/2025 11:13

I would query the price as it is a big jump, so I would want to know the reasoning behind it. However, you cannot afford music lessons for your children if it only leaves you £45 a week for food! It’s madness.

MixedFeelingsNoFeelings · 03/12/2025 11:11

The casual dropping of bombshells like
"Husband gives me £85 for the week and I have to find this lesson money out of it as well as feed a household of 5"
and
"(The teacher is a guy my husband used to work with, not sure if this could be why he just wants me to shut up and pay, to save his embarrassment?!)"
make me think that half of MN is just people making mischief!

Because how can this be true:
Pre flute-lesson raise, OP apparently fed 2 adults and 3 children on £7.57 per day. That's £1.51 per person.
Post flute-lesson raise, that figure dropped to £6.42 per day, or £1.28 per person.
That's some serious calorie deficit. Perhaps the parents have become so light-headed, they've lost their grip on reality.

SkyBlueCloudyLakes · 03/12/2025 11:08

Hmm OP doesn't say anywhere the £40 is cost per lesson. She does say "for the same amount of time". This could be a flute lessons through school. My daughter's one did cost around £40 per month. The cost going from £32 to £40 is still a huge increase in price.

BillieWiper · 03/12/2025 11:05

Well you can't afford it if your entire budget is £85. You need to gain access to your own money.

Or if your husband is loaded then he's financially abusing you, yet he wants YOU to pay extra for the flute lessons? Or does he mean HE will pay extra?

Cucy · 03/12/2025 11:01

Empress13 · 03/12/2025 09:44

Show your DH this thread and let him know he’s taking the P ! £45 to feed 5 people properly absolutely not doable

She has double that but chooses to waste half of it on lessons for 1 child.

OP says that money is very tight - this is normal for many households and less than £100 for groceries is very common.

What isn’t normal is then blowing half of the budget on 1 lesson for 1 child.

Its not abusive or unreasonable to have a set budget for groceries.
She is obviously not good with money but what we don’t know is why she phrased it as he gives it to her.

It depends where OPs money is going and if it’s given directly to him or if she’s not earning anything so it all has to come out of 1 wage.

I definitely think there’s a lot more to this story.

BruhWhy · 03/12/2025 10:54

Sorry he gives you how much to feed a family of 5?

Do you all just eat baked beans?!

Cucy · 03/12/2025 10:52

Your DD cannot have these lessons.
You simply cannot afford it.

I actually think it’s shocking that you already spend £30 out of £85 of the budget on this.
How unfair on your other children.

Look on YouTube for free lessons.

I know it’s a shame if DD enjoys it but you have to be realistic. My DD would love horse riding lessons and musical instrument lessons etc but it’s just part of not being wealthy.

You are literally wasting on this and prioritising 1 child over the others which isn’t fair.

Ubertomusic · 03/12/2025 10:44

Jingletoes · 03/12/2025 09:28

I’m also an instrumental teacher. £40 per hour is a pretty standard rate (and actually below the hourly rate the musicians union reccomend), so if the prices you mention are hourly, then yes the teacher has been massively undercharging. However unless your daughter is super advanced (ie preparing for grade 8 or conservatoire entry) she shouldn’t really be needing a full hour, so I’d look at reducing down to 30 mins or an hour every other week. talk to the teacher, as they might have some flexibility for fees for families on a low income. You could Also find out if there are lessons available in school/through a local music service as they’re likely to be cheaper and many boroughs will offer reduced/free lessons if you qualify for free school meals or pupil premium.

edited to add: if this guy is a friend of your husband’s, please check he actually knows what he’s doing! Does he have a music degree, previous instrumental teaching experience, other pupils? I regularly see pupils with really shoddy technique because they’ve been taught by a random friend of the family who has never taught before and isn’t a good enough standard themselves to be giving lessons. if this is the case you really shouldn’t be paying that much. I would have a look at what other local reputable flute teachers are charging (your local secondary school is likely to have someone decent teaching flute, so that might be a good starting point).

Edited

As a parent who pay for music lessons, I agree on all points.

Hons123 · 03/12/2025 10:36

This is capitalism, the guy can charge whatever. Also, flute lessons are nice, but a luxury, very much like driving lessons, riding lessons, etc.

Myfairyhanny · 03/12/2025 10:30

You are not being unreasonable, but your absolute melt of a husband is!

Allergictoironing · 03/12/2025 10:29

Lebkuched · 03/12/2025 09:14

That’s illogical. You don’t pay more for a driving lesson to be taken on an A road.

I'm thinking it could be down to who is giving the lesson. I used to teach horse riding up to a certain level, but when pupils got beyond that level they would need to go to someone else who was higher qualified than me or who was working themselves at a higher level, and they would cost more because of the years of experience they were offering. Plus the fact my teaching was more a hobby side gig to my day job and for the higher level instructors it was their living.

I'll also point out that often people who offer a paid for service don't put their prices up maybe when they should. 25% may seem a large increase in one rise, but if they've been charging the lower rate for 5-6 years then suddenly it doesn't seem so big.

You also have a "rounding up" thing with costs especially for services. If you have a service that costs say £40 per session, then with 5% inflation you would be putting your price up £2. Then the next year £2.05, then the year after another £2.10 and so on. After 4 years the compounded interest means you would be paying over £48. But life is simpler if things go up by whole numbers, so they put it up by £5 after 3 years, then another £5 2 years later. Or £10 after 5 years - shock horror 25% increase, not thinking of the years it hasn't gone up.

Aluna · 03/12/2025 10:23

Is your DH on minimum wage and you’re not working? £85 is not enough for a family of 5 so you couldn’t afford the lessons even at the lower rate.

That said £40 ph is peanuts.

ThatCyanCat · 03/12/2025 10:18

Husband gives me £85 for the week and I have to find this lesson money out of it as well as feed a household of 5.

Husband gives you...

Tell us more about your financial arrangement. I don't think it's the flute teacher we need to be questioning.

ReallyGoodMincePies · 03/12/2025 10:08

To be honest, it sounds like he was on the cheaper side to begin with, so he’s increasing his prices to be in line with the competition. He’s likely also the victim of increasing overheads.

I am an English tutor and charge £50 per hour, I’m putting my prices up to £60 per hour in the new year in line with local market rates.

ArmAnALeg · 03/12/2025 10:02

When I first read this message I didn’t fully take in the part about this being all the money your husband gives you to run an entire household on. For a week. Without further discussion, and yet he still is trying to say you should go ahead with these lessons.. that literally take food from the mouth of your children.
What does he spend the rest of “his money” on?
And do you realise how this sounds?
Controlling in an old fashioned “pin money” way and in an abusive sense and untrusting in that he doesn’t give you the opportunity to make bigger financial decisions and choices, which should be your right in a marriage. When I read it, that’s what I hear.

HereintheloveofChristIstand · 03/12/2025 09:56

Why is your husband giving you 'pocket money' like a child. Earn your own money!

That aside, this is a steep increase.

Anonanonay · 03/12/2025 09:54

Only a teenager who has no idea of the true cost of food could write such twaddle.

Bloozie · 03/12/2025 09:52

The flute teacher is not being unreasonable to increase the price.

You are not being unreasonable to wonder how the fuck you are going to afford it.

Your husband is being very, very unreasonable to only give you £85 a week and expect you to feed everyone on it plus pay for flute lessons. Unless money is really tight in your household - in which case, you are all being unreasonable for thinking that spending almost half of the free money a week on one family member is a good use of money unless she's the next Mozart in the making, which I just don't believe is the case.

The answer is to have a conversation with your husband about much it realistically costs to meet the needs of a family of 5.

Silvertulips · 03/12/2025 09:50

Is there anyone you can share a lesson slot with? Ask the teacher!
Is she any good? Is this going to be a career? there are online lessons she can join instead.

Also a family of 5 and i couldn’t feed us all on that

Empress13 · 03/12/2025 09:44

Show your DH this thread and let him know he’s taking the P ! £45 to feed 5 people properly absolutely not doable

nightmarepickle2025 · 03/12/2025 09:43

So you’ve been feeding 5 on £53 a week?

Aimtodobetter · 03/12/2025 09:41

If you guys have so little money that this is all you can afford to feed your family then you need to cancel the lessons anyway. If you husband has a reasonable amount of money but keeps you on this insane budget - then he can pay for the lessons directly and give you access to the shared finances to pay for food for your family. If it’s the latter - he’s financially abusive to have restricted you to that extent.

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