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Massive increase in cost for lessons, is this normal?

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WouldRatherBeOnaBeach · 03/12/2025 02:18

As per title, one of my children has flute lessons. Heard last night from the teacher guy that the lesson will be going up from £32 to £40 in the new year, for the same amount of time.

Daughter loves the lessons, but our money is very tight. Husband gives me £85 for the week and I have to find this lesson money out of it as well as feed a household of 5.

I dont understand if things are going up by 3% (or whatever it is ), how are some things going up by SO much. Hubby says I should just pay it as the teacher might not have increased his rates for years, but we’ve only been doing the lessons since the summer and the percentage increase feels huge.

(The teacher is a guy my husband used to work with, not sure if this could be why he just wants me to shut up and pay, to save his embarrassment?!)

I already find it such a juggle to make sure everything is covered on such a low income, I am feeling sad that I now have this additional stress.

Is it me? Am I being unreasonable??

OP posts:
Ownedbykitties · 04/12/2025 23:52

The thing that shocked me is that your DH gives you £ 85 a week to pay for music lessons AND feed 5 people! Are you magical? Is he mean? I can't imagine this is real. Bloody hell.

NameChanger20252 · 04/12/2025 22:33

I don’t think flute lessons were affordable in the first place, even less so now 😮 You can’t feed 5 people on £45 a week!! We spend around £150 a week for two adults (although we eat out about once a week on average). Your child is taking more than half of your food budget, this isn’t sustainable.

ArmAnALeg · 04/12/2025 22:26

Have you checked to see whether you and your family qualify for food bank services?

If this has already been mentioned in the thread, sorry to duplicate.

For a large family to spend all of their low joint disposable income down to the last penny, whether on music lessons, food or on other necessaries, is not a good idea. You need to be eat, to feel you are doing well by your kids if you can and to be able to save something. Maybe not this month, but soon.

birdsnestinghere · 04/12/2025 22:11

TwinklySquid · 04/12/2025 21:17

While it’s lovely your husband has been able to follow his passion- it’s rather selfish . Maybe a chat about this?

Agree. If things are so tight, maybe your DH has to consider whether this vocation is right at this time of his life. It could be something he comes back to later. I couldn't feed a family on that.

Sharptonguedwoman · 04/12/2025 21:20

ChloeMorningstar · 04/12/2025 20:54

But not an actual breakdown....

What are the outgoings? No rent... etc

No but it's pretty clear there is no spare money. Different dioceses seem to be giving different allowances which means they seem to be getting very little help.

TwinklySquid · 04/12/2025 21:17

While it’s lovely your husband has been able to follow his passion- it’s rather selfish . Maybe a chat about this?

ChloeMorningstar · 04/12/2025 20:54

Sharptonguedwoman · 04/12/2025 09:17

Earlier in the thread OP explains they are paying everything apart from rent. Inc council tax etc and various insurances.

But not an actual breakdown....

What are the outgoings? No rent... etc

WeNeedToTalkAboutIT · 04/12/2025 20:36

One thing you could do to help is to make sure that the rent is definitely the market rate for the property. An increase of £40 a month to the rent is a tiny increase as far as rent goes, but would cover the increase in the flute lessons.

And look into any flexible jobs that you may be able to do working flexible hours from home.

Laura95167 · 04/12/2025 20:29

Violinist64 · 04/12/2025 19:15

Whatever your thoughts - and we all think it is too much money - the flute lessons are not, and never have been, a waste of money. This child will be gaining a lot from them besides the love of music. They may even go on to be a professional flautist. Who knows? In any case, even, as is most likely to be the case, the child does not have a musical career, they will still have an enjoyable and rewarding hobby and a love of music that they can use for their own pleasure and that of others.

My thoughts are with this budget even £32 on lessons is wasteful.

Not because the flute isnt a rewarding interest or music doesnt matter I am absolutely all for kids having hobbies and fostering a love of the arts.

Its not a waste to spend money on flute lessons per sa

But if you have 3 children and 2 parents and a budget of £85 per week for food, its wasteful and I would argue unfair on the other 2 children to use more than 1/3 of the food budget money on music lessons for one of the children.

Its sad, of course but you have to sometimes prioritise and flute lessons arent a necessity when theyre that high a % of a minimal weekly budget

ThatLoudDreamer · 04/12/2025 20:17

The hourly rate for a private music lesson recommended by the Musician's Union is £44/hour. It sounds like your flute teacher is bringing his hourly rate up towards this - perhaps he realised he was under charging previously. However I would question the need for a beginner to have an hour long lesson. The norm would be 30 mins per week. If he's charging £40 for 30 mins, I'd look around for another teacher!

OneCraftyLurker · 04/12/2025 20:06

Bobiverse · 03/12/2025 08:42

Well, they are in Scotland. At least in South Lanarkshire. I went to school in a town in south Lanarkshire and got free lessons. My kids go to school in a different town in South Lanarkshire and get free lessons. Any kid that wants them, gets them. The South Lanarkshire music tuition service also provides the instrument for free; it’s yours for your whole time at school, from primary through secondary. You can provide your own instrument too.
But we also don’t pay for ingredients for HE or anything like that either.

Edited

Only a selection of kids get them free in South Lanarkshire as not enough funding. My kids did not get free lessons and only about 5 in a class of 30 got them through the school.

Didimum · 04/12/2025 19:52

Husband gives me £85 for the week and I have to find this lesson money out of it as well as feed a household of 5.

Stopped cold here I’m afraid. All your husband’s money is your money too.

ParmaVioletTea · 04/12/2025 19:49

Is it me? Am I being unreasonable??

Yes, you are being unreasonable.

You are getting flute lessons from an expert & qualified musician. You are paying for the tutor's years of training and experience, and expertise.

The tutor has to pay for travel time & expenses to come to your home. They have to pay for their pension, their sick leave, their annual leave from the fees they charge.

You are getting a bargain.

And that's before I even think about the entitled whining about you being on a low income with a family of 5. Why have a third chid you can't afford? Why do you not plan to work? All the clergy families I know (I almost married into one) the spouses have jobs outside the home. And they pay for child care like everyone else.

BotterMon · 04/12/2025 19:49

Jeez I had no idea that one of the richest "companies" in the world pays their staff so little. Managing an £11 billion investment fund must be hard work for the Church Bigwigs, assuming he is COE.

I voted YABU for spending so much of your weekly budget on one lesson for one child. Either go to a lesson a month or find a cheaper way for them to learn the flute - online plus monthly lesson?
Also really shocked that the Church doesn't pay your insurance and utilities!

DeemonLlama · 04/12/2025 19:48

Sounds like response to husband should be that he can pay it himself if he thinks it's so reasonable. Or split costs between you both 50/50 then for you it would actually decrease in cost. Can she not learn through the school? Lessons would be much cheaper that way.

ResusciAnnie · 04/12/2025 19:48

WouldRatherBeOnaBeach · 03/12/2025 11:18

Thanks for the messages.

No, it’s not financial abuse. I get every penny after bills and fuel. Hubby is a vicar. I don’t earn as we have a newborn and also, because of his job, I wouldn’t be able to, as he can be called away anytime and has several village churches in his care. He is only allowed one day off per week, so if I worked that day when baby is older, I would never see him. For the same reason, he can’t get a part time job either, he is essentially permanently ‘on call’.

The money part is tricky as they aren’t technically employed, so he gets £1997 for the month but could work 50 plus hours per week, which I don’t think is minimum wage even?
However they would say that we get to use a house for free. (A draughty one we can’t afford to heat!). I read on MSE a few weeks ago that any housing provided for workers can only count as max £70 per week but they count it as more to maintain the ‘pay package’ is more.
I would of course much prefer for there to be the option of proper pay and sorting out our own housing, but vicars aren’t afforded that kind of decency sadly. Hubby had a well paid job before so this feels like an awful squeeze!
I worry about what happens when he stops as we haven’t been putting into our own home, but that’s another story.

I do get child benefit, but I tend to ringfence that separately and keep it for shoes and other needs like that for the children.

We have had to move around loads for husband to do his chosen job and as such, the music has been the only constant.

No, we aren’t entitled to any UC as we have a tiny one bed place mortgaged that we let a friend stay in currently, so apparently that makes us not entitled, despite the fact we couldn’t fit in there if we tried 🤣
I did the benefit calculator the other day and would be a lot better off leaving him to the draughty house and squeezing into our flat, but I think that would massively impact the children as they would never see him.

I actually don’t have an issue with the £10 per person for food for the week. We are veggie and I have always batch cooked. We eat really well and I’m shocked when I have read in the past on here how much people spend on food!
(We don’t buy snacks and sugary stuff, but the meals we eat are good and balanced).

I posted because I was in utter disbelief that things can go up by such a high percentage. Especially given that wages clearly won’t!
I do feel the kids pay enough for his life choices and so to stop the lesson would break my heart to be honest as she loves it so much.

OK so the vicar thing isn’t working. You’ve had kids you can’t really afford 😬 time he gets a different job that will pay more and probably free you up to work too.
But yes, the flute lessons have gone up a lot.

Knittedanimal · 04/12/2025 19:30

For comparison, i pay £15 for my DDs 45min singing lesson, which is admittedly very reasonable. She has a lesson every other week; maybe you could drop to once a fortnight?

Ukholidaysaregreat · 04/12/2025 19:26

You feed a family of 5 on 85 quid most of which goes on flute lessons? What do you eat? Gruel? A rotten turnip to share?

eastegg · 04/12/2025 19:23

OP I’ve read your updates and unless I’ve missed it you’re not really talking about the flute lessons anymore. In particular, it’s really important to know the length of the lesson. If it’s an hour then the new price is good value, and you presumably have scope to ask to have a shorter lesson to cut costs, although you may have to give notice to do that. If it’s half an hour then that’s another story, because that is expensive as well as a big increase.

MadKittenWoman · 04/12/2025 19:16

Just read all of OP’s posts. This isn’t sustainable. Why are you putting up with this?

Violinist64 · 04/12/2025 19:15

Laura95167 · 04/12/2025 18:23

Info: what do you mean by husband gives you £85 per week for the families food and this lesson?

Is that all you can afford? Or is DH controlling the money?

Why is 1 of your 3 children getting half the food money for flute lessons?

If £85 is all you have spare you should never have wasted £32 on flute lessons never mind £49. If £85 is just what DH deems reasonable you dont have an inflation one you have a DH one

Whatever your thoughts - and we all think it is too much money - the flute lessons are not, and never have been, a waste of money. This child will be gaining a lot from them besides the love of music. They may even go on to be a professional flautist. Who knows? In any case, even, as is most likely to be the case, the child does not have a musical career, they will still have an enjoyable and rewarding hobby and a love of music that they can use for their own pleasure and that of others.

MadKittenWoman · 04/12/2025 19:09

Never mind the cost of the lessons; why is your husband giving you housekeeping like a 1950s housewife?

Violinist64 · 04/12/2025 19:07

Is your child having an hour long lesson or half an hour? If you are paying £40 ear week for a lesson lasting an hour, is there a possibility of cutting down the time to thirty minutes each week? Having taught music lessons, thirty minutes is a standard length for an instrumental lesson and it is only at a more advanced level that people go on to longer lessons. Piano is my first instrument and my lessons were thirty minutes’ long until the term l was taking grade eight. I also play and teach violin and viola,; hence my user name.

Blablibladirladada · 04/12/2025 18:35

So 85-32=53 …for a family of 5 is tough

but with the increase, you are looking at using almost half your food budget for a hobby. That is just not going to do it op…in the long run, what will you do when your 2nd wants to join?
I understand she needs something but that is just too much…find someone else and tell that to your hubby.

Laura95167 · 04/12/2025 18:23

Info: what do you mean by husband gives you £85 per week for the families food and this lesson?

Is that all you can afford? Or is DH controlling the money?

Why is 1 of your 3 children getting half the food money for flute lessons?

If £85 is all you have spare you should never have wasted £32 on flute lessons never mind £49. If £85 is just what DH deems reasonable you dont have an inflation one you have a DH one