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Good teeth as dating non-negotiable

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ThatJollyGreySquid · 02/12/2025 20:21

I went on a date on Sunday with a man I met through OLD. He was interesting, clever, polite, good company and attractive- but his teeth were awful; several missing and the remainder horribly stained. He isn’t on a low income, so could afford to have them sorted out. I would definitely have seen him again, and a friend thought I was daft to reject him based on something shallow like teeth.

AIBU to insist on decent teeth? Not veneers or really white, just normal clean teeth?

OP posts:
CaffeineAndChords · 03/12/2025 09:02

Deebee90 · 03/12/2025 02:51

Well my teeth are stained because of medication I’m on. There’s no amount of hygienist appointments that will change it and without the meds I’ll die. Luckily my boyfriend isn’t superficial and loves me and my yellowish teeth. All clean and fresh just yellow unfortunate but I wouldn’t want turkey teeth anyway as they look vile.

Same here. My meds have destroyed my teeth and my bones.

CaffeineAndChords · 03/12/2025 09:00

I have extremely good hygiene. Brush twice a day, shower/bath twice a day, do my make up and style my hair, but my back teeth aren’t good due to having thyroid and parathyroid issues so calcium deficiency. I’m signed off work and don’t have the funds to put it all right at the moment.
Such a shame people are so quick to judge, like it isn’t something that can’t be repaired.
Very shallow. No wonder so many MN’ers are single.

KimuraTan · 03/12/2025 08:52

Good teeth and good oral hygiene determine gut and brain health. I wouldn’t be with anyone who’s got bad teeth. And I don’t mean slightly crooked or uneven - I would also be seriously turned off by “turkey teeth”.

Westfacing · 03/12/2025 08:43

toomuchfaff · 02/12/2025 20:39

You are absolutely entitled to not date someone for ANY reason.

Personally I think good oral hygiene is an absolute requirement for someone you want to be swapping saliva with. I couldn't consider someone with bad teeth. Not that they need Turkey teeth, or absolutely straight and gleaming white, but they need to not look like they are auditioning for Pirates of the Caribbean

My friend and I were looking for a particular hardware store and weren't sure whether to go left or right so we stopped and asked a couple of builders who were working nearby. Both lovely friendly fit guys, young enough to be our sons but that's another matter, who gave us directions.

One of them, the more conventionally handsome of the two, had the worst teeth I've ever seen - gaps, some blackened, yellow, just awful. For the life of me I can't think that nothing at all could be done to improve them just a bit. He did look just like a pirate.

Just to say he had a London accent, so not like he's come from a poor country and hasn't had a chance yet to sort his teeth.

Missj25 · 03/12/2025 08:16

JHound · 02/12/2025 20:57

No. It does not. Not for me.

I find it hard to cope if I don’t like how they dress 🙈 😂 😂

Augustus40 · 03/12/2025 07:33

It seems very commonplace these days. Must be due to the cost.

IcyPuddles · 03/12/2025 06:57

musicalfrog · 03/12/2025 06:56

Just to point out as it seems relevant on this thread. One of the worst things for teeth staining is actually mouthwash. Especially Corsodyl! Expensive.and unnecessary.

I'll never go back to it.

Floss regularly and only rinse with warm salty water if you have sore gums. No staining.

That’s interesting, re: mouthwash.

musicalfrog · 03/12/2025 06:56

Just to point out as it seems relevant on this thread. One of the worst things for teeth staining is actually mouthwash. Especially Corsodyl! Expensive.and unnecessary.

I'll never go back to it.

Floss regularly and only rinse with warm salty water if you have sore gums. No staining.

BlueEyedBogWitch · 03/12/2025 06:49

You don’t want another date. The reason is irrelevant. Tell your ‘friend’ she can have his number.

Honestly, the ‘Ick’ you overlook on the first date because you somehow feel bad about upsetting this virtual stranger will probably become a massive cross for you to bear. I speak from experience.

musicalfrog · 03/12/2025 06:43

Zov · 02/12/2025 22:53

I'm sorry, I didn't mean to quote you @musicalfrog ! And I can't even remember who my post was meant to quote now. 😆

Sorry! Blush

No worries at all! Have a good day 😊

Simonjt · 03/12/2025 05:24

ComedyGuns · 02/12/2025 20:51

IME bad and/or strained teeth are typically the result of various things like, rolled, unfiltered tobacco, red wine and having a glass of milk before bedtime, after you’ve done your teeth.

Basically things that anyone can change, so if they can’t then that’s a big red flag.

Bad teeth are not genetic!

There are lots of genetic causes for bad teeth, our son lacks enamel on his teeth, this has been inherited.

Justlostmybagel · 03/12/2025 05:19

I couldn't date someone with poor oral hygiene.

Bad teeth can definitely be genetic though. My husband brushes, flosses, eats healthy, uses prescription toothpaste, and sees a hygienist regularly and still gets the occasional cavity. I just brush twice a day and have never had a cavity in my life.

verycloakanddaggers · 03/12/2025 05:00

Zov · 02/12/2025 21:45

Maybe. The vast majority of the time however, bad/rotten/brown teeth is nothing to do with 'genetics.'

Research suggests a great deal is due to genetics. What you do afterwards (live with it vs get cosmetic treatment) is not genetic.

Deebee90 · 03/12/2025 02:51

Well my teeth are stained because of medication I’m on. There’s no amount of hygienist appointments that will change it and without the meds I’ll die. Luckily my boyfriend isn’t superficial and loves me and my yellowish teeth. All clean and fresh just yellow unfortunate but I wouldn’t want turkey teeth anyway as they look vile.

Missey85 · 03/12/2025 02:45

I have missing teeth and I can't get them fixed they happened when I had a seizure and fell on cement 😕 not all bad teeth means they don't look after them

Ponoka7 · 03/12/2025 01:19

Zov · 02/12/2025 20:43

Yes, I agree. If someone has manky/bad teeth, I would wonder about their general hygiene. Chances are their personal hygiene is poor too, and I would not want to get intimate with them. OR go to their house. Chances are, they will stink, and their home will stink too.

edited to add: I am NOT on about people with crooked, mis-shapen, or forward teeth/overbite. I mean teeth that have clearly been neglected!

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Edited

That's ridiculous. A neglected childhood can mean bad teeth. Poor health, certain conditions, certain medications etc can mean bad teeth. It doesn't reflect on a person's hygiene, especially their home.
This is going to be an issue many WC children will have, as well as the low waged. There isn't NHS dentists about. Threaseholds are tgat low that a child needing multiple teeth removed under 7, doesn't even hit the radar.

InterIgnis · 03/12/2025 01:12

It would be a dealbreaker for me too. If it’s shallow to not want to date someone that you find physically repellent then I’m quite happily shallow.

ThroughTheWorst · 03/12/2025 00:01

You get to choose who you date and can reject anyone for any reason or no reason at all. I don’t really understand the need to ask if you’re being unreasonable.

CoffeeMakesTheWorldBetter · 02/12/2025 23:56

i was only born with 2 of my 4 adult front teeth so I have bridges, but they can get knocked out. My oral hygiene is impeccable. I would never judge someone until I knew their story. My ex husband had teeth and was horrendously abusive. My now partner has some teeth missing. He again has fantastic hygiene and breath and has teeth on a retainer plate, he just lost teeth through sports. I’d rather the less teeth and no abuse

Rainydayinlondon · 02/12/2025 23:45

I think with the over 55s it’s generally a bit hit and miss with how crooked one’s teeth are.
OP is it back teeth or front ones that are missing?

BauhausOfEliott · 02/12/2025 23:44

Although if they are too perfect I would be suspicious - too many druggies need them all replaced

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BauhausOfEliott · 02/12/2025 23:43

You can have anything you want as a non-negotiable. If you can't get past it, you can't get past it - it's important to find a partner attractive, and I'm sure everyone has at least something they just can't look past.

I would, however, disagree with all the PPs insisting that discoloured or missing teeth automatically equals poor hygiene and bad breath. Sometimes it does, sometimes it doesn't - staining doesn't affect the health of teeth, and there's a multitude of reasons that people can lose teeth that have nothing to do with decay and poor hygiene.

For me, it would just depend on the individual, the rest of their looks, what kind of dental issues he actually had etc. For example, I could easily look past a missing premolar in a really attractive man, and I actually quite like men with certain types of crooked or chipped teeth. But missing front teeth, or a mouth full of decaying stumps, would certainly put me off.

beadystar · 02/12/2025 23:35

Dentistry is expensive. Genetics and ageing can be cruel. I could be forgiving to a point, like I wouldn’t mind a crooked tooth or a gap, but I also get the ick at decayed/unclean teeth. If they can’t clean their mouth, god knows what downstairs is like!

Zov · 02/12/2025 22:53

musicalfrog · 02/12/2025 22:02

Erm, did you read what I posted? Bizarrely defensive and also I agree with you on your point about breath 😅

The OP asked for opinions I was merely offering mine.

I'm sorry, I didn't mean to quote you @musicalfrog ! And I can't even remember who my post was meant to quote now. 😆

Sorry! Blush

Gettingbysomehow · 02/12/2025 22:36

I can't stick bad teeth in a man. Im 63 and make sure any gaps have implants in them, I get them whitened when they need it and go to the hygienist every 6 months. I could not kiss a horrible mouth. God knows what bacteria they are harbouring in a dirty mouth.