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SparklyLimeHair · 02/12/2025 18:41

Last year I unexpectedly became a kinship foster cater to 3 of my neices/nephews. I don’t have a DH or partner, I’m single. I also work as a global head of department in a large global company. I’ve tried to keep on working full time (4 days a week) whilst also being a kinship foster carer but it’s just not sustainable because of the amount of meetings with social services and appointments for the children and the foster training. I feel like I’m going to have quit my job and just somehow survive on the money from fostering. I love my job and don’t want to quit but I don’t really feel like I have any other choice. Would I be unreasonable to quit my job and become a full time foster carer? I’d lose a ton of money/salary from my job though and we would just have to try and survive on the money from fostering somehow.

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PermanentTemporary · 05/12/2025 12:05

I also think that ultimately you will probably need to move to another organisation. However, make them pay you off. That’s why you need an employment lawyer.

GoodQueenWenceslaus · 05/12/2025 11:59

Social Services manage to arrange meetings to accommodate their various schedules, so they can certainly take your schedules into account also. I'd suggest that you give them a list of dates and times you can do over the next month or so and say that all meetings are going to have to fit into that schedule if they want you to be there. I'm sure they'll discover they can manage it.

sunshine244 · 05/12/2025 10:31

Posters are being really helpful in trying to find practical solutions e.g. nanny, demanding more support from work etc.

However.... I don't have foster kids but I do have two with additional support needs. The burden isn't only a practical one but also a hugely emotionally draining one. I am constantly fire fighting, and as services are all oversubscribed there is very little flexibility with appointments. It is utterly exhausting.

As a single parent I've had to take a massive step back from work. I now do 2.5 days a week in a new job at a significantly lower level. 2.5 days sounds tiny but it can be a struggle fitting all the appointments and calls etc in, especially as there are issues with kids sleep etc that impact upon my available time. It only works because my employer is very flexible and understanding.

My advice would be that an unsupportive organisation will not work longer term. Although the initial flurry of training and appointment will die down it is highly likely that new issues will fill that gap. Foster children will likely come with trauma, and statistically much more likely to jave other additional support needs. The last thing you want to do is burn out entirely.

AirborneElephant · 05/12/2025 10:14

You need to start being really inflexible with social services. Say no, and simply don’t turn up. What are they realistically going to do? They don’t want to have to find a new placement for three siblings. You are clearly the best option if you have the money and time to look after them other than the SS stuff. Don’t go to training if it’s on a working day, say it needs to be arranged for a time you can do it. Don’t go to the SS meeting, offer a zoom call at a convenient time. Medical appointments for the children yes, but absolutely drop everything else.

CambridgeSingers · 05/12/2025 10:12

So you’re potentially going to end up losing your house and what, downsizing or moving to rented? Agree this is the critical point with SS - do they want these kids to lose their secure base?

PermanentTemporary · 05/12/2025 09:57

I’m sorry I havent read every post.

Please get a senior employment lawyer asap to fight your corner. The only thing is that you will need to know what you want as an outcome. It sounds like your ideal outcome would be part time working/job share in your current employment. Fine. In the meantime, work the hours you can. But talk to a lawyer today.

dimple285 · 05/12/2025 09:42

OP I know a kinship carer to 2 children who works 5 days a week as a teacher and is not having all these issues. SS have just got you over a barrel and aren't bothered on making things work for you as long as you're prepared just to keep up the status quo.

Do you know how hard it would be for them to keep these kids together and place they somewhere else? Do you know how much that would cost them?

You need to call their bluff you need to tell them that it is not possible for you to carry on as you are and that they need work with you or they will have to find another placement for the three children because they are breaking this placement down. If they want you to attend all this training and these meetings then they need to make it possible. They're taking the piss OP and they will because it's cheaper and easier for them.

SparklyLimeHair · 05/12/2025 08:51

It’s so difficult with both my employer and social services

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OldMaaa · 04/12/2025 22:24

Social services. Letting kids die in horrific ways at the hands of animals (poor Star Hobson for just one of many examples)... and then fucking up the lives of those who are just trying to do the right thing. They get stuck in an awful system, which overcompensates in totally the wrong way and in the wrong cases.

Your employer sounds awful too.

I'm so sorry Op. I think you should fight back, but I understand that you are worried about losing the kids. And they are your priority. It is a really difficult decision. I think you are between a rock and a hard place.

You are doing an amazing thing. You must be knackered so it is difficult to think straight.

I hope you can find a way forward.

Namechangetry · 04/12/2025 22:09

SparklyLimeHair · 04/12/2025 21:59

I will also need to work out how I’m going to pay my mortgage if I do end up having to leave my job

I’m going to work out tomorrow if it’s possible to manage on just the fostering allowances. I also have another meeting tomorrow so I’m going to ask social services again what other financial support they could offer too if any.

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Do not ask them what other support they can offer if any. Thats just asking for them to say none. Go in there with the numbers worked out of what you need to live your current lifestyle for the next however many years. If you want to give up your job - and I think you do you just won't be straight about it here for some reason- go in and tell the LA you'll resign and do all their FC training and meetings etc if they agree in writing to replace your current salary for the next x years and then award FC allowance after that til youngest DC is 18. Or ask them to pay a lump sum off your mortgage. Or whatever you'd need to live your current lifestyle.

Don't ask them want they are willing to spend, they want to spend as close to nothing as they can. Tell them what you want in return for resigning, or else that you're not doing any more training or meetings except at times convenient to you. Find your backbone.

Namechangetry · 04/12/2025 22:02

SparklyLimeHair · 04/12/2025 21:56

I know I’m quoting my own post again but I’ve ended up in a row with my manager about this today because he’s not happy about next week and the fact that I won’t be able to work my contracted hours next week and he always says It’s my fault even though him and the company won’t be flexible at all. But I’m not sure what he wants me to do about it? It’s not my fault that I have attend these meetings/appointments/training as part of being a kinship foster carer

I do struggle to work my contracted hours most weeks these days since I’ve become a kinship foster carer but I’m not sure what my employer wants me to do about it when they won’t be flexible at all

Not all weeks have as many appointments/meetings/training as next week (next week is a particularly busy one) but there’s always something every week at least

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Harshly, your employer doesn't have to facilitate your lifestyle. They employ you to do a job. It's the LA who have to give because your employer is your employer, it's not a charity which exists to fund you to do stuff other than the work they pay you to do.

Stop looking for your employer to fix this, it's for the LA to do that, and you seem unwilling to play hard ball with them so here we are. Your employer don't have to pay you to do FC training, or go to social care meetings, what they want you to do is the job they pay you for. You are having a row with the wrong people.

SparklyLimeHair · 04/12/2025 21:59

I will also need to work out how I’m going to pay my mortgage if I do end up having to leave my job

I’m going to work out tomorrow if it’s possible to manage on just the fostering allowances. I also have another meeting tomorrow so I’m going to ask social services again what other financial support they could offer too if any.

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SparklyLimeHair · 04/12/2025 21:58

InterestQ · 04/12/2025 20:06

Don’t resign. Make your employer sack you. Don’t make it easy for them. Politely push back with SS when you really need to. Don’t quit. Don’t give in to SS. Just keep plugging away. They won’t be able to find someone else for 3 children. Just keep going. Women are conditioned to try to make life easier for other people. Don’t quit to make your employer heave a sigh of relief. Just keep going.

I have previously tried to push back on both my employer and social services but I never seem to get anywhere which is why I’ve got to this situation where I feel like I should quit my job

To be honest part of me is surprised that my employer actually hasn’t sacked me yet because most weeks I struggle to work all of my contracted hours since becoming a kinship foster carer

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SparklyLimeHair · 04/12/2025 21:56

SparklyLimeHair · 03/12/2025 21:57

Next week there are 2 days that I can’t work due to fostering training, and these 2 days are both days that I should be working. But there’s nothing that I can do about that other than attend the training.

And then on another day (another day that I should be working) next week I also need to do a meeting with SS. And then I also need to take one of the children to a medical appointment too in the middle of my working day.

I understand why my employer is not happy but they are not willing to be flexible at all and that’s why I feel I have no option but to quit my job.

I know I’m quoting my own post again but I’ve ended up in a row with my manager about this today because he’s not happy about next week and the fact that I won’t be able to work my contracted hours next week and he always says It’s my fault even though him and the company won’t be flexible at all. But I’m not sure what he wants me to do about it? It’s not my fault that I have attend these meetings/appointments/training as part of being a kinship foster carer

I do struggle to work my contracted hours most weeks these days since I’ve become a kinship foster carer but I’m not sure what my employer wants me to do about it when they won’t be flexible at all

Not all weeks have as many appointments/meetings/training as next week (next week is a particularly busy one) but there’s always something every week at least

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SparklyLimeHair · 04/12/2025 21:46

Titasaducksarse · 04/12/2025 18:22

I meant if you gave up your job.
Also get in touch with the IRO...the independent reviewing officer who chairs the LAC reviews. They're there to monitor the placement so tell them without further financial support this placement is in jeopardy of not being sustainable.

I've seen LAs pay out A LOT of money when challenged robustly.

Also look up the Family Rights Group online.

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If I give up my job then I will try and push for more financial support yes but I’m not sure if I’d be able to get any more from the LA?

The IRO is aware of this situation and it’s been discussed previously, the IRO is very much aware of it

I’ll have a look at the family rights group now, thank you so much

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InterestQ · 04/12/2025 20:06

Don’t resign. Make your employer sack you. Don’t make it easy for them. Politely push back with SS when you really need to. Don’t quit. Don’t give in to SS. Just keep plugging away. They won’t be able to find someone else for 3 children. Just keep going. Women are conditioned to try to make life easier for other people. Don’t quit to make your employer heave a sigh of relief. Just keep going.

Titasaducksarse · 04/12/2025 18:22

SparklyLimeHair · 04/12/2025 12:29

I have tried to push back on the LA previously but I haven’t managed to get very far with them so I’m not sure how much can change. About pushing for more financial support, what that be if I was to quit my job or if I was to stay in my job?

I meant if you gave up your job.
Also get in touch with the IRO...the independent reviewing officer who chairs the LAC reviews. They're there to monitor the placement so tell them without further financial support this placement is in jeopardy of not being sustainable.

I've seen LAs pay out A LOT of money when challenged robustly.

Also look up the Family Rights Group online.

Namechangetry · 04/12/2025 15:25

SparklyLimeHair · 04/12/2025 12:23

As a level 2 kinship foster carer I do need to attend the training yes.

They can't make you. They really can't. What do you think will happen if you don't do it?

I get adoption allowance paid at the same level as the maximum foster carers payment. I've never done a speck of FC training. Obviously I did adopter training but as I said up thread that was 4 one day a week group training days, then several months of personal 1-1 home study done to fit in around my work. It was also 15 years ago. If they can agree that for me they can do similar for you.

You are not a career FC. You have already had these children placed with you for a year. Like fuck would I be going on ongoing FC training at that point,it's ridiculous. Find your back bone with the LA, they need you. They need you capable of caring for these children not run ragged by pointless training as well as everything else you have to do to parent traumatised children.

I'm starting to think you actually want to leave your job and you just want everyone here to tell you you have to, because you're not engaging with anyone who says stand up to the LA. As in don't ask them if you can stop the training, tell them you're stopping it, and the meetings set when you're at work. Tell them, don't ask them.

SparklyLimeHair · 04/12/2025 12:47

I am going to raise everything again with social services in the next meeting but I’m not sure how much will change.

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SparklyLimeHair · 04/12/2025 12:37

PrincessNannie · 04/12/2025 12:35

Can you take a sabbatical? I took a one year sabbatical from my global company. I did not get paid but I got my significant car allowance which helped support me. Hopefully if you can then it gives you a year to work stuff out.

My employer has refused a sabbatical and they won’t budge on that unfortunately.

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PrincessNannie · 04/12/2025 12:35

Can you take a sabbatical? I took a one year sabbatical from my global company. I did not get paid but I got my significant car allowance which helped support me. Hopefully if you can then it gives you a year to work stuff out.

SparklyLimeHair · 04/12/2025 12:32

jetlag92 · 03/12/2025 22:45

That would be really stupid OP - there is going to be no money for pensions in 30 years time and you need to make money now. Let the state take care of them - they are not going to help you., save the money - take them out when you can and save, save, save.

I don’t see what other option I have though because this current situation is not sustainable anymore, I can’t manage my current job alongside fostering much longer and I’m not sure what option I have besides quitting my job.

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TwoTuesday · 04/12/2025 12:29

I don't see how anyone could take on kinship foster care with all the work time commitments, it seems self defeating if the only way to keep kids out of the "system" is to force the kinship carer out of work. I don't think SS are being at all helpful here.

SparklyLimeHair · 04/12/2025 12:29

Titasaducksarse · 03/12/2025 22:50

I'm an ex SW. My advice, push back on the LA.
The agreed Care Plan is for these children to remain together. Tell the LA you cannot manage work (although I'd have expected this to have been discussed with you already) and caring for these children.
Push for financial support for say 3 years above the normal kinship fostering rate.
Yes they'll think you're an arsehole...how DARE you not to just uproot your entire life for these kids! However we are living in the real world here.

The LA has no chance of finding a long term placement for 3 children and in all honesty the youngest I'd be seeking adoption if they couldn't be with you. The elder 2 would be looked after for the remainder of their childhood, costig about £70/80k a year. Then the LA would have to tell a court why the Care plan has changed and if it's just due to money they will be looked at very unfavourably.

So the power really does lie with you.
Good luck and well done you for stepping up for these kids.

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I have tried to push back on the LA previously but I haven’t managed to get very far with them so I’m not sure how much can change. About pushing for more financial support, what that be if I was to quit my job or if I was to stay in my job?

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SparklyLimeHair · 04/12/2025 12:26

ReadingSoManyThreads · 03/12/2025 22:53

@SparklyLimeHair I don't think you're getting what people are advising you. The issues here are caused by SS, stop focussing on your employer, and start pushing back with SS. People have given really good suggestions for pushing back with SS or asking them for 5yrs of salary. I know you don't want to lose the children but you've repeatedly been told this won't happen and that SS need you more than you need them. You are in a good position here to sort all this out with SS, but sadly you seem too scared to.

I have tried to push back on social services previously but it’s just not that easy unfortunately.

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