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To quit my job and lose a ton of money/salary?

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SparklyLimeHair · 02/12/2025 18:41

Last year I unexpectedly became a kinship foster cater to 3 of my neices/nephews. I don’t have a DH or partner, I’m single. I also work as a global head of department in a large global company. I’ve tried to keep on working full time (4 days a week) whilst also being a kinship foster carer but it’s just not sustainable because of the amount of meetings with social services and appointments for the children and the foster training. I feel like I’m going to have quit my job and just somehow survive on the money from fostering. I love my job and don’t want to quit but I don’t really feel like I have any other choice. Would I be unreasonable to quit my job and become a full time foster carer? I’d lose a ton of money/salary from my job though and we would just have to try and survive on the money from fostering somehow.

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Wowwee1234 · 02/12/2025 21:48

hellotojason · 02/12/2025 19:06

I'm a children's social worker (now in senior management) - not a chance could I hold down a senior role and be a connected carer (or mainstream carer) especially for 3 children. I think it's incredible you've sustained it as long as you have. If you're long term matched visits /meetings may reduce but I imagine potentially you'll still have family time to manage and importantly the continued needs for nieces and nephews. Speak to your supervising social worker about an affordability assessment, how will they support you. They will want to keep the kids in your care and they won't want it to break down, use this to try and garner what you can from the LA. I can tell you I have seen connected carers and adoptive carers reach good financial agreements with the LA outside of the normal offer.

This is insane. How do SS think normal single parents manage? Of course someone should be able to work and raise three children. Even following trauma, what they most likely need is stability and security, not meetings every 5 minutes. Surely, a year into living with a trusted relative, that relative can be left to geet on with it for the most part.

NotMeNoNo · 02/12/2025 21:38

SparklyLimeHair · 02/12/2025 21:02

It’s just so full on and I don’t think it’s sustainable anymore alongside my full time job. Something has to give but I don’t want to give up fostering so that only leaves my job but I don’t really want to give up my job either.

In the end though there are other jobs out there, but only one chance for your DC to have a stable home for the rest of their childhood. You are a very capable person to have got to HOD in the first place, but if your employer isn't flexible around families, it's impossible going forward. I have just about held onto my job through our adoption journey and that included a 30 month sabbatical, very flexible working and a very supportive partner. I would always advise someone to keep options open but you need to be there for the DC and it's up to SS to make sure you are financially able to do it. It sounds like you have exhausted your employer's options.

You are right, too, do not drag the kids into the tabloids!!! [Shock]

AwfullyGood · 02/12/2025 21:34

It's so unreasonable of your company.

I would never normally suggest stress leave but under these circumstances. Why not? Take the sick leave policy for as long as possible and then seek a payoff.

You need to put family first.

Nextweektoo · 02/12/2025 21:32

Are you in touch with family rights group or similar they may offer some helpful advice? Also would you be entitled to any benefits? That might help. You probably right in recognising that a full on demanding role is untenable whilst caring for 3 kids, what does your SSW say?

SparklyLimeHair · 02/12/2025 21:27

I will also need to work out if it’s possible to manage on the fostering allowances if I quit my job.

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SparklyLimeHair · 02/12/2025 21:26

Nextweektoo · 02/12/2025 21:22

Would an SGO give you more flexibility but possibly less social care involvement but crucially less support?

An SGO isn’t appropriate at the moment either due to circumstances.

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SparklyLimeHair · 02/12/2025 21:26

Holdonforsummer · 02/12/2025 19:44

This happened where I work. Our company originally denied my colleague any adoption leave as she hadn’t formally adopted her niece. She kept pushing, used the Kinship charity for information and sent the CEO of our company a big long email about what she had been through and why they should give her some paid leave. They have now agreed three months off on full pay - better than nothing. I would try rattling the cage with your CEO/HR a bit more to see if there is absolutely no chance of any more flexible working or paid leave. Failing that, take unpaid parental leave for a month and consider your options. I’m sorry this has happened to you and what a wonderful thing you are doing. I was shocked to find out how low kinship allowance is. Good luck.

I hope your colleague is ok. I’ve spoken to kinship before but I am going to contact them again and see if they have any more advice again. I’ve already tried speaking to our Chief Operating Officer but I could try speaking to our CEO possibly, the company as a whole is just not very flexible though so I’m not hopeful even if I speak to the CEO as the company and HR and our Chief Operating Officer have rejected everything I’ve suggested so far and they are not being supportive at all.

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Nextweektoo · 02/12/2025 21:22

Would an SGO give you more flexibility but possibly less social care involvement but crucially less support?

SparklyLimeHair · 02/12/2025 21:21

ElFire · 02/12/2025 21:16

This. It is a major PR disaster for a global multinational given your circs and the children’s predicament.

I wouldn’t feel comfortable going to the media though and I’m not sure what social services would think about that either.

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ElFire · 02/12/2025 21:16

theunbreakablecleopatrajones · 02/12/2025 18:58

It doesn't sound like you want to leave your job, and I am doubtful you or they want to live on a foster carers salary - I think you'd be nuts, basically.

I'd take a giant step back, and -

Raise merry hell with your employer re adoption leave. What multinational corporation wants the bad publicity of refusing adoption/compassionate leave to an employee kind enough to take on three kids?! None I would say - you are just talking to people too low on the food chain. Get advice from an HR consultant / your union (pay for it if you have to) and negotiate some leave and some staggered return to work.

Raise merry hell with SS, again, get yourself to the top of the food chain - you have a job that you need in order to support these kids and so meetings have to be arranged on X days and that is it. In exceptional circs, you will try and arrange a zoom on another day. Do you they want to find another placement for these kids? No they do not. This one might be tougher to achieve than your work, because of so many agencies being involved but I bet you can improve it 80% given time and toughness.

Do you have good childcare and enough help with outsourcing household tasks, get that in place if not.

You may eventually want to look for a more flexi career, but you want to do that while you are still employed, and ideally after the initial shitstorm has calmed down.

This. It is a major PR disaster for a global multinational given your circs and the children’s predicament.

SparklyLimeHair · 02/12/2025 21:16

BittyItty · 02/12/2025 21:07

If you’re on a decent salary right now can you get a nanny to help for 3 days a week? Or an au pair?

A nanny or au pair are not options unfortunately due to circumstances.

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BittyItty · 02/12/2025 21:07

If you’re on a decent salary right now can you get a nanny to help for 3 days a week? Or an au pair?

SparklyLimeHair · 02/12/2025 21:02

NotMeNoNo · 02/12/2025 20:33

It's not just about the meetings, though. It's about being a full-time substitute parent which is really hard work, potentially three different schools/nurseries to deal with, meeting the needs of the DC without them feeling more rejected, therapeutic appointments, trying to figure out what's upset them today. You can't get nannies or PA's in because those people can just leave and then it's another broken relationship. I think you are trying to do two full-time jobs at the moment OP. Maybe the right thing is to be a full-time carer for a while but think about how you can keep your links to working life even if only freelance or attending events once the 2yo is at school. As there will be a point where you want to pick it up again. As PP's have said, try to negotiate with SS so at least you are financially secure.

It’s just so full on and I don’t think it’s sustainable anymore alongside my full time job. Something has to give but I don’t want to give up fostering so that only leaves my job but I don’t really want to give up my job either.

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SparklyLimeHair · 02/12/2025 20:53

My employer has also refused a sabbatical unfortunately.

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HeyThereDelila · 02/12/2025 20:38

Keep going if you can. Is there an equivalent of adoption leave? Or would your employer let you take a sabbatical/an unpaid leave of absence for a year or go down to 3 days a week flexed over 5 days?

You need to keep an income and your pension going. Well done on taking on your young relatives; it can’t be easy and I’m sure they’ll be very grateful in the long run.

Blizzardofleaves · 02/12/2025 20:34

Ultimately op the young lives of such beautiful and vulnerable children will be more important than money - despite the injustice of having to choose. You have already done the most loving and honourable thing despite it personally costing you a great deal already.

You sound intelligent, professional and capable - if you really can’t see a way forward with this current arrangement how would you feel about studying? Retraining? Using the time to invest in yourself and future career? You can keep looking for a different kind of role in the meantime.

At some point this will get easier, they will become older, and things will settle.

Thank God for people like you, truly.

NotMeNoNo · 02/12/2025 20:33

It's not just about the meetings, though. It's about being a full-time substitute parent which is really hard work, potentially three different schools/nurseries to deal with, meeting the needs of the DC without them feeling more rejected, therapeutic appointments, trying to figure out what's upset them today. You can't get nannies or PA's in because those people can just leave and then it's another broken relationship. I think you are trying to do two full-time jobs at the moment OP. Maybe the right thing is to be a full-time carer for a while but think about how you can keep your links to working life even if only freelance or attending events once the 2yo is at school. As there will be a point where you want to pick it up again. As PP's have said, try to negotiate with SS so at least you are financially secure.

SparklyLimeHair · 02/12/2025 20:32

onyourway · 02/12/2025 19:29

In your position and in a global company, I’d probably jump over heads and maybe find a Non Exec Director on the Board who may listen. Certainly you need to comb through the policies and procedures to find something that might indicate they would support you. Most companies want to have ‘outwardly’ a good image on equality, diversity etc and you may be able to benefit from that.

I could do this I guess. I just still don’t know if they would be as flexible as I need/let me go as part time as I’d need. The whole company is just not very flexible in general. I guess I could try going to the top though and seeing what they say possibly?

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SparklyLimeHair · 02/12/2025 20:26

Namechange234567 · 02/12/2025 19:44

In your position I'd look for another role at a more flexible company. There are companies that would allow more flexibility, even if you have to take a step down you'll be in a good position to step back up again when things calm down. You'll be better off financially now, but also a lot better placed to get back where you need to when you're ready

I have been looking but I’d have to go very part time and I haven’t found any suitable roles yet unfortunately.

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SparklyLimeHair · 02/12/2025 20:24

I know a few previous posters have mentioned a nanny but a nanny isn’t an option either unfortunately. And having all meetings on my day off only isn’t an option either unfortunately because that won’t work.

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Seelybe · 02/12/2025 20:15

@SparklyLimeHair I remember you posting a while back, I think when the children were about to come to you. And I think I said gently then that a high powered job and three Foster children was going to be almost impossible to combine.
If all the meetings are the main issue, could you insist that those take place only on your weekly day off? Tbh if the choice for SS is to accommodate that or find other foster carers for 3 siblings I think they will bend.
Could you afford a nanny? That might bel your best option in the long run. They could take the children to their appointments, look after them when they're off sick and in school holidays and basically be another parent to cover your working hours. That's what I'd do tbh to keep my options open even if it put a big dent in my income. Good luck with it all.

Holdonforsummer · 02/12/2025 19:55

@SummerInSun this is a pompous and thoughtless comment. Parenting your own three children cannot compare to having three children just appear in your life - you didn’t ask for it, they didn’t ask for it and they could be traumatised by whatever led them there. My colleague certainly didn’t plan on becoming an instant parent to a toddler and it has brought innumerable challenges.

Blizzardofleaves · 02/12/2025 19:52

If you are going to leave any way you may as well take this to the very top. Stop at nothing. There is no reason at all why they can’t support you.

apagh2709 · 02/12/2025 19:51

I am also a head of department in a global company. Honestly, I would be reviewing your sickness policy. What period will they pay you your salary for? If they are being inflexible, and there is policy for you to be paid, I would seriously consider stress leave to allow you more breathing room.

What you are doing is really selfless, I am sorry that you are having to juggle so much and not receiving any compassion.

MotherofPearl · 02/12/2025 19:46

Gosh OP, what a difficult situation. I agree with PP who suggested that perhaps going to the press with this might be a way to put pressure on your employer, though I can understand why you might be reluctant to take that route.