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Doctors don't understand how difficult it is for me to see them.

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YourSparklyLimeTraybake · 02/12/2025 17:52

I work in leadership in a school. My direct boss is off sick long term and I am acting up. The next person in the line of succession is also not well and in and out sporadically. There isn't anyone else that can step in to cover, even if it's just for a short period of time. My school is very challenging.

I am incredibly stressed, working 7am til 7pm most days just to keep afloat. They don't take online bookings unless you're a Uni student, I am on duty at break and lunchtime, so can't call during the day.

I need a blood test and it's overdue. They now won't prescribe one of my medications until I get tested and then a separate appointment to be reviewed. I've tried to arrange both three times, and each time something has happened so I can't go, which means the second review appointment gets cancelled too, then I have to try to figure out how to find time to make the appointments again.

I don't know what else I can do and now I've run out of medication.

OP posts:
SoSoLong · 03/12/2025 12:59

RhaenysRocks · 03/12/2025 11:03

A child disclosing a safeguarding issue when no-one else onsite is trained for that or they've chosen you and that moment to disclose, can't wait.

Presumably no child would disclose a safeguarding issue before 8:30 or after 3:30?

Somersetbaker · 03/12/2025 12:29

As my mum used to say "graveyards are full of indispensable people". If your boss is off sick long term, the school has to make alternative arrangements, it can't just rely on people deputising on an ad hoc basis.

Wetcoatsandmudagain · 03/12/2025 12:09

ArseInTheCoOpWindow · 02/12/2025 21:25

We have drive through blood tests open until 6:30 in our city.

Ours is currently running at a 4 week waiting list

Parker231 · 03/12/2025 12:07

Yesimmoaningaboutbenefits · 03/12/2025 11:48

And then there would be an investigation as to why there was no DSL on site and the OP would be risking her career.

Options to see what services are available for blood tests before/after the school day are helpful. Online consults, exploring private options and ways to get the meds to tide her over until the holidays are helpful.

Suggesting she leaves the school site during the working day is not. (Long term suggestions for training additional DSLs yes, but not for this immediate situation).

The role and risk can be covered by one of the Governors whilst the OP is at her doctors appointment.

EmeraldShamrock000 · 03/12/2025 12:04

You cannot continue with the level of stress forced on you.
It's easier said than done, however no job is worth your health.

MrsSkylerWhite · 03/12/2025 12:03

Why can’t you call during the day? Presumably you get some sort of break?

kornwall · 03/12/2025 12:01

Yesimmoaningaboutbenefits · 03/12/2025 11:48

And then there would be an investigation as to why there was no DSL on site and the OP would be risking her career.

Options to see what services are available for blood tests before/after the school day are helpful. Online consults, exploring private options and ways to get the meds to tide her over until the holidays are helpful.

Suggesting she leaves the school site during the working day is not. (Long term suggestions for training additional DSLs yes, but not for this immediate situation).

That is not the point that was being responded to. The point that was being responded to was the suggestion that a child making a disclosure was something that must be dealt with immediately and cannot be delayed by anytime whatsoever. The legal requirements re a DSL have already been covered on this thread and it is ludicrous that this hasn't already been put on place by the HT. A DDSL can be trained extremely quickly and this should have been done within a matter of days when the staffing situation emerged as it currently is.

Yesimmoaningaboutbenefits · 03/12/2025 11:48

kornwall · 03/12/2025 11:32

This is exactly right. Were there to be a time sensitive safeguarding issue such as a person trying to remove a child from the premises without permission, then any adult on site would call the police as they would in any emergency situation.

And then there would be an investigation as to why there was no DSL on site and the OP would be risking her career.

Options to see what services are available for blood tests before/after the school day are helpful. Online consults, exploring private options and ways to get the meds to tide her over until the holidays are helpful.

Suggesting she leaves the school site during the working day is not. (Long term suggestions for training additional DSLs yes, but not for this immediate situation).

Whatnowitsdday · 03/12/2025 11:35

HoskinsChoice · 02/12/2025 18:00

You've cancelled 3 appointments?! I'd be interested to know why your job is more important than the time of the NHS staff.

Agreed. What a waste of NHS resources

BakedAlaskaInMyTummy · 03/12/2025 11:33

So what do you expect them to do?

kornwall · 03/12/2025 11:32

DrProfessorYaffle · 03/12/2025 11:08

Yes they can.

They can sit quietly with a trusted adult and wait for whoever needs to be there to be there.

It is likely to be an hour tops.

The adults involved up to this point can make a written report of everything they said and did.

The DSL could equally be in a CP case conference or on the phone to social segoces. The child can wait for a short period of time until that adult is available.

This is exactly right. Were there to be a time sensitive safeguarding issue such as a person trying to remove a child from the premises without permission, then any adult on site would call the police as they would in any emergency situation.

HamptonPlace · 03/12/2025 11:10

Rosilil · 03/12/2025 10:00

As I said if she died tomorrow, the problem would be solved. It can be solved she just needs to have boundaries and essentially say she needs to do this, just as the others have when they’ve been ill, there are workarounds even in education.

Indeed something would happen were she to perish. However, the consequences of my demise might be a late report or an overdraft (or whatever not significant in the grand scheme scheme of things most jobs consist in) but the solution for there being no SLT member being available in a school with lets of vulnerable children could have long term impacts on said children, no? Presuming, like it sounds like, this is a standard quarterly rollover, or whatever, then there is nothing magic about 90 days and if so why could not an extension be issued? Obvs this would be different were it chromic short term medication or whatever that might have serious negative consequences of take for 91 days, or 119 days, rather than 19?

DrProfessorYaffle · 03/12/2025 11:08

RhaenysRocks · 03/12/2025 11:03

A child disclosing a safeguarding issue when no-one else onsite is trained for that or they've chosen you and that moment to disclose, can't wait.

Yes they can.

They can sit quietly with a trusted adult and wait for whoever needs to be there to be there.

It is likely to be an hour tops.

The adults involved up to this point can make a written report of everything they said and did.

The DSL could equally be in a CP case conference or on the phone to social segoces. The child can wait for a short period of time until that adult is available.

RhaenysRocks · 03/12/2025 11:03

YourWildAmberSloth · 03/12/2025 08:44

Stop being a martyr OP. Nothing is so important at work that it can't wait an hour while you go to the doctors.

A child disclosing a safeguarding issue when no-one else onsite is trained for that or they've chosen you and that moment to disclose, can't wait.

notsuperbug · 03/12/2025 10:36

Newbutoldfather · 02/12/2025 18:35

I do sympathise.

You either have to wait for the holidays or see a private GP. I am sure you could find one close to your school that you could pop out to at lunchtime.

The OP has already explained that they work through break and lunch. They have also said they don’t have another school nearby… I imagine that this is a primary school in a small town or village ( or there would be a larger leadership team). Not everywhere has a private GP on every corner - the nearest one to me is a 50 minute drive.

This really highlights the challenges of being in a leadership role in a school run with skeleton staffing. The governors need to work out their contingency plans as, like others have mentioned upthread, this is completely unsustainable and you need to prioritise your health.

HuskyNew · 03/12/2025 10:18

Yesimmoaningaboutbenefits · 03/12/2025 09:31

It won't though. Schools are struggling to fill headships even more than they are to fill teaching roles. So many schools now have a shared head across 2/3 schools and a deputy at each because no-one wants the job.

It's all good and well saying the school will have to cover you, but who do you think has to sort the cover? The OP! She can't leave the premises unless there is another DSL, and there isn't (reliably anyway). If she is off sick, the school cannot legally be open to children.

Yes, they need to train another (or more) DSLs, but that takes time and isn't going to help with this predicament.

It is incredibly naive to think schools have enough staff to just "carry on" if you're off sick. They don't.

This attitude only perpetuates the situation faced by the OP.
schools can’t operate in th current environment.

Maybe having to close the school
for a day is the drastic action needed to highlight the issue. For as long as people continue to sacrifice their own wellbeing for “the system”, the system will continue to take advantage

KarmenPQZ · 03/12/2025 10:13

YourSparklyLimeTraybake · 02/12/2025 18:07

Okay. Thanks everyone.

I don't think my job is more important, and I have properly cancelled, not just left them waiting. Twice for behavioural incidents, once for a safeguarding disclosure. All three times, the next in line was also absent.

Thanks @Yesimmoaningaboutbenefits some really useful advice there. We do have a wellbeing advice line I could call, so I'll try that. I think I'll book for the holidays, although that means I'm without medication for two and a half weeks.

It sounds like you haven’t really listened to the advise up thread. In this situation would you push for one of your teachers to do without their medicine for 2.5 weeks til the end of term? Or would you advocate for them and find a way to make an appointment before then?

a blood test takes approximately 90 seconds. The minutes (hours) before in the waiting room are frustrating but at least you’re contactable by phone if needed? If you’ve been left in charge to cover someone, surely there’s someone that can be left on site to call you if needed?

Humanswarm · 03/12/2025 10:04

Call them up and book an appointment for in the holidays, meanwhile, explain that you need your medication prior to then, they can't refuse. Just say your review is booked. Most GPs would be a two week wait for bloods now anyway, which fits in with school holidays

DrProfessorYaffle · 03/12/2025 10:03

Wetcoatsandmudagain · 03/12/2025 08:56

I hear you OP! And all those ‘make time’ ‘with the greatest respect’ etc comments are not helpful and make me very tearful reading them . Some of us work jobs that really do make it impossible to get those Drs appointments. As unbelievable as it sounds to many it really does bloody happen in the real world.

No.

Those of you who can't engage with the advice being offered here are the ones not getting something.

Many, many people posting here will have experience of the sort of pressure you're describing.

But maybe they've also experienced the sort of medical event or life disaster that proves to you how little you matter to your employer in the grand scheme of things.

If you had an ectopic pregnancy or brain haemorrhage or your husband was arrested for murder YOU WOULD MISS WORK and work would find a way to keep on keeping on.

It is ridiculous and unsafe and unsustainable to be SO IRREPLACEABLE that you miss 6 scheduled GP appointments. Appointments that will have been made well in advance allowing for contingency and cover to be arranged.

You are only IRREPLACEABLE to your family and those who love you. Therefore you prioritise your health and go to your appointments.

Rosilil · 03/12/2025 10:00

HamptonPlace · 03/12/2025 09:30

but in her role as opposed to, say, an office job (like mine) there could be (could be!) very serious consequences for the vulnerable. Even in a similarly 'front line' caring profession (say NHS) it will be a larger organisation with redundancies built in...

As I said if she died tomorrow, the problem would be solved. It can be solved she just needs to have boundaries and essentially say she needs to do this, just as the others have when they’ve been ill, there are workarounds even in education.

Yesimmoaningaboutbenefits · 03/12/2025 09:31

2old4thispoo · 03/12/2025 07:27

When you die, your job will be filled in hours.

Issue here is your priorities.

Look after yourself.

It won't though. Schools are struggling to fill headships even more than they are to fill teaching roles. So many schools now have a shared head across 2/3 schools and a deputy at each because no-one wants the job.

It's all good and well saying the school will have to cover you, but who do you think has to sort the cover? The OP! She can't leave the premises unless there is another DSL, and there isn't (reliably anyway). If she is off sick, the school cannot legally be open to children.

Yes, they need to train another (or more) DSLs, but that takes time and isn't going to help with this predicament.

It is incredibly naive to think schools have enough staff to just "carry on" if you're off sick. They don't.

HamptonPlace · 03/12/2025 09:30

Rosilil · 02/12/2025 17:57

You just need to book and go, others are taking time off for illness and so can you, the school will not fall down in a couple of hours, so go get your blood test. If you dropped dead tomorrow it would keep running.

but in her role as opposed to, say, an office job (like mine) there could be (could be!) very serious consequences for the vulnerable. Even in a similarly 'front line' caring profession (say NHS) it will be a larger organisation with redundancies built in...

endofthelinefinally · 03/12/2025 09:30

As I mentioned earlier, it is easy to get a blood test done through a private hospital/laboratory/GP. You can make an appointment in the evening or over the weekend. Once the blood test is done and the result is available, usually within 48 hours, it can be emailed to the GP with a covering note. GP can then prescribe the medication.

IHopeYouStepOnALegPiece · 03/12/2025 09:29

If you were getting ready for work and at 6.15am you tripped down the stairs and fractured your leg and had to go to hospital, the school would survive because there would be no choice. Treat this appointment as that. You fell down the stairs, work is not an option. You need this blood test, work is not an option.

HamptonPlace · 03/12/2025 09:27

LuckyNumberFive · 02/12/2025 17:55

With the greatest respect, you just need to book it and go. The schools staffing issue isn't your problem. This isn't the same as you doing your own job and inconveniencing your manager by booking them in work time, this is the fact your health is being impacted because you're doing your job, your superiors job, and holding it together for everyone else. At some point you have to say enough is enough, it's too much for one person and you're taking time off for a blood test.

but it is her problem, i think that's clear from her post... the buck stops with her right now... missing the other 2 of the top 3 is no joke especially if the school is struggling...

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