Men who can't keep to their own side of a double seat on public transport

I once had a manspreader next to me on a train while I had my laptop in front of me for work. I googled amusing meme images of manspreader shaming and chortled at them quietly occasionally. For some reason he got off at the next stop (and got back on quickly onto the next carriage along which potentially may have contained a less upity woman who knew her place and accepted her obligation to take up minimum space)

i don't. I literally said i stand up to let someone sit near the window. That's not condescending. I don't want to sit next to a window, and i don't have to.

I don't block seats, i don't put my bag on them, and i will literally wave at people to show them there is a seat there. But i won't be sitting in it.

Nothing to do with etiquette, all to do with my preference.

Many women have done that to me on many occasions on public transport.
Seriously. It's not just blokes.

I was a short journey but I don’t expect he chose it - who does? He wasn’t with the person by the window.

My point isn’t whether he chose it or not. My point is that he was able to sit within its confines without apparent difficulty or resentment. Not one bit of his knee came into my space anyway.

Maybe he booked the middle seat for a relatively short journey.

A couple of years back I sat on a plane to Amsterdam next two a very tall Dutch man, about 6’4” or taller.

I always, always book an aisle seat (I won’t get on a plane unless I feel 100% assured I have one - don’t tell me it’s never 100%, I need to tell myself it is!). He was in the middle seat - presumably having not felt he wanted to pay to book anything else. He sat completely within his seat space, utterly respectfully the whole time. Didn’t even look particularly uncomfortable. This was a very standard plane.

If he could sit like that, anyone can.

To be fair, a lady of a certain age looked aghast that I actually wanted to sit at the window seat today on the train, whilst she was hogging the aisle seat.

Well yes, I'd like to sit down. And can't you just get up????

To be honest, for every manspreading arse invading the next door seat there is a woman dumping her handbag/shopping/dog on the adjacent seat pretending to look out the window while ignoring standing passengers.

This really isn’t gender specific, not sure why you’re claiming it is.

Had an extremely slender girl (well mid 30s woman really but they all seem young to me) next to me on the train this morning who flopped her legs all over my side of the seat and her elbow nearly in front of me to type on her stupid laptop. Of course I said nothing.

I hate this excuse. As though men haven’t been able to sit with their legs closed for centuries and they must all have new enormous balls that need all the space.

The seats are perfectly adequate for the average human. They’re not suited to those who are much larger or the gym bros who are the size of a fridge I agree. I’d suggest those people stand if there are no free full bays rather than crush someone else into the window.

Mostly it's a gender issue. The op is talking about entitlement not size

Yes me too!

Peiole who can’t help it - like the example a pp gave of women who are just larger widthways than the seat only tend to do it if by the window. You don’t get women launching into your window seat, if larger women are by the aisle they just sit partly into the aisle.

I never ever sit by the window though.

Had this on a very recent flight . DH at window , me in middle and man in aisle seat with legs spread . Asked him politely twice to move . He didn’t. Third time I told him to move his fucking legs . I am nearly 70 , rarely swear . He was so shocked he moved muttering about crazy old women!

Was he fat or just spreading his legs?

I had that a while a go on a train and asked them, politely, to close their legs so I had space. I was told they needed the space due to their...balls basically...I responded that I expected them to walk down the aisle the same way they sat if their balls could never touch their legs.

Move over dick shit and stop being a prat.

Someone on here suggested using their encroaching knee as a handy table to perch your bag on!

This. Seats are generally pretty small even for slim people.

It really is a man thing. I saw a bloke today manspreading on his mobility scooter. His knees were so far apart, he could have taken out passing pedestrians.

Why do you hog a whole double seat to yourself? There must be aisle seats available next to someone already sat next to the window?

Getting on a bus and seeing so many people hogging double seats by plonking themselves in the aisle seat is really daunting.

It's very condescending of you to say you " don't mind" standing up to let someone access the window seat. Unless you have paid double fare whether you mind or not shouldn't come in to it because you don't have the right to stop anyone sitting there.

So many people these days have no idea about the etiquette of bus travel. An etiquette that used to make travelling by bus less of the ordeal it is now.

@BrokenWorldRecord just why would you post that?🙄