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Men who can't keep to their own side of a double seat on public transport

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Pavementworrier · 02/12/2025 17:41

This is getting worse right? It's getting to the point where they just launch themselves halfway across both and crush the person sitting at the window and don't seem to see anything wrong with this. Guy just did that to me so I elbowed him away and he turned to look at me in outrage.

I think part of the issue is people who used to drive are getting public transport more. Which is good overall but it also means a lot more selfish pricks in enclosed spaces.

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Needmorelego · 03/12/2025 17:29

Pavementworrier · 03/12/2025 17:27

No thank you this sort of thing is why London sucks!

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Meh....it's not so bad here.
To be honest it's pretty similar on the buses in the East Midlands town my mother in law lives.

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Pavementworrier · 03/12/2025 17:27

Needmorelego · 03/12/2025 17:26

Again.....stop with your anti-men hatred and come travel on a London bus 😂😂
Fat. Thin. Male. Female.
It makes no difference to behaviour and taking over seat space. Or space by the door. Or aisle space.
All squishy together.

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No thank you this sort of thing is why London sucks!

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Needmorelego · 03/12/2025 17:26

Pavementworrier · 03/12/2025 17:22

Disagree. Fat women are usually a lot more thoughtful than fat men and will not insist on forcing their entire bodies into the seat space.

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Again.....stop with your anti-men hatred and come travel on a London bus 😂😂
Fat. Thin. Male. Female.
It makes no difference to behaviour and taking over seat space. Or space by the door. Or aisle space.
All squishy together.

DamnTheCheesemongers · 03/12/2025 17:24

This is why I mourn the demise of hat pins.

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Pavementworrier · 03/12/2025 17:22

Squishedpassenger · 03/12/2025 15:50

I have to agree that obesity is more of an issue here than gender.

Disagree. Fat women are usually a lot more thoughtful than fat men and will not insist on forcing their entire bodies into the seat space.

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Squishedpassenger · 03/12/2025 15:51

Written from the 254 bus during school run where I am being forced into the side of the bus by the person sharing this seat. My arms are pinned to my sides.

Squishedpassenger · 03/12/2025 15:50

I have to agree that obesity is more of an issue here than gender.

Hedgehogx · 03/12/2025 15:15

Pavementworrier · 03/12/2025 15:08

So fat people get their seat and the remaining half?

No. Perch. Or walk, the steps would do them good.

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Wow says more about you as the thread goes on.

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Pavementworrier · 03/12/2025 15:08

Hedgehogx · 03/12/2025 13:36

That's just fat shaming some people are bigger and can't help it.

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So fat people get their seat and the remaining half?

No. Perch. Or walk, the steps would do them good.

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Hedgehogx · 03/12/2025 13:41

BIossomtoes · 03/12/2025 13:37

Seriously? 😧

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Yes.

BIossomtoes · 03/12/2025 13:37

Hedgehogx · 03/12/2025 13:35

Well I see your point but for me, it depends on what said person looks like.
I really won't moan about anyone pressing against me if they are my type.

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Seriously? 😧

Hedgehogx · 03/12/2025 13:36

Pavementworrier · 03/12/2025 13:34

Also if you're too big for the seat it is your duty to perch

That's just fat shaming some people are bigger and can't help it.

Hedgehogx · 03/12/2025 13:35

Pavementworrier · 03/12/2025 13:32

As above that's quite different from pressing your disgusting body against a stranger so they are caused physical pain then reacting with outrage when they elbow you.

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Well I see your point but for me, it depends on what said person looks like.
I really won't moan about anyone pressing against me if they are my type.

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Pavementworrier · 03/12/2025 13:34

Also if you're too big for the seat it is your duty to perch

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Pavementworrier · 03/12/2025 13:32

Hedgehogx · 03/12/2025 12:17

What about the women that use the empty seat, for their shopping bags and won't move them.
Or the elderly women with trolleys, that plonk them in front of a seat and refuse to move them.
Its really not just men.

As above that's quite different from pressing your disgusting body against a stranger so they are caused physical pain then reacting with outrage when they elbow you.

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Homegrownberries · 03/12/2025 13:21

In terms of size/weight, it's not a gender issue but I've never seen a woman do this...

Men who can't keep to their own side of a double seat on public transport
ClippyMuldoon · 03/12/2025 13:03

This is interesting. Where I live creepiness on trains has become so frequent that most women alone choose the outside seat, I have taught my daughter to do this too. We of course move when asked. Nobody is standing tutting at 'ettiquette' leaving a seat empty.

As for bags, same thing. If a grown adult stands and does not just ask the bag owner to move it then that is their problem. Please none of you ever come to the Netherlands or Germany, public transport will kill you. It is not rudeness here it is just how it works.

Limehawkmoth · 03/12/2025 12:57

TreadLight · 02/12/2025 17:58

I am currently sat next to a woman whose girth means she takes up a seat and a half. This isn’t a gender issue.

The issue here is partly how seats and pretty much everything is designed. It is based on a standard male anatomy. Men have narrow hips. Even fat men spread their apple shaped belly forward in their seats, unlike many overweight women who will carry on their hips. Some quite slim women can have very wide hips that simply don’t fit into a standard male made toilet seat (god forbid we’ve all experienced the half sitting on a sanitary bin on a public loo as toilets have become narrower and bins are wedge right up against loo seat), the airplane seat, the car seat, office chair, bar stools, amusement park rides etc

and let’s not even get into how they’ve not taken into account our height and lower centre of gravity in crash tests exposing us to higher risk of injury and death

can’t see women next to you, and she may be very overweight, but for women the issue is usually compounded by the apparent ignorance by designers that women are bigger round hips and bums. Even though they’re probably quite familiar with the “does my bum look big in this” question that haunts so many of us women.

so, let’s stick to point …almost always it will be men that terrotorily will claim space by spreading their legs and elbows , even when that man is very small.

sprigatito · 03/12/2025 12:54

TheatricalLife · 03/12/2025 12:50

DD unfortunately is too intimidated to do things like this. She has to take an evening bus home from the city, often full to the brim and rowdy. I think it's really difficult when you are are younger and (speaking from experience) you get a lot less tolerant and braver as you get older and certainly as I've been perimenopausal!

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Definitely! I would never have done it at her age. Menopause has its upsides.

5128gap · 03/12/2025 12:53

TreadLight · 03/12/2025 12:39

No, but she did have her bags and coat piled up on the seat next to her while other passengers were standing, until I asked her to move them.

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Now that's not a sex based issue, as both men and women do that.

TheatricalLife · 03/12/2025 12:50

sprigatito · 03/12/2025 12:46

I have started physically impeding the fuckers. I will use my leg to firmly correct a manspread into its own allotted space. I simply cannot tolerate the utter selfishness any more.

DD unfortunately is too intimidated to do things like this. She has to take an evening bus home from the city, often full to the brim and rowdy. I think it's really difficult when you are are younger and (speaking from experience) you get a lot less tolerant and braver as you get older and certainly as I've been perimenopausal!

Rewis · 03/12/2025 12:49

They can't help that their penis is so huge that they have to manspread cause it would be squashed otherwise.

Celestialmoods · 03/12/2025 12:47

usedtobeaylis · 02/12/2025 18:28

Being fat isn't the same as gendered entitlement to public space.

The result is the same though. Someone in your space is someone in your space.

sprigatito · 03/12/2025 12:46

I have started physically impeding the fuckers. I will use my leg to firmly correct a manspread into its own allotted space. I simply cannot tolerate the utter selfishness any more.

BIossomtoes · 03/12/2025 12:44

TreadLight · 03/12/2025 12:39

No, but she did have her bags and coat piled up on the seat next to her while other passengers were standing, until I asked her to move them.

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Which isn’t the same thing. At all.