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My neighbour is a convicted paedophile

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Obviouslyneedtonamechange · 02/12/2025 11:56

I've just found out from another neighbour that the man two doors down, who we chat to regularly and are friendly with, has been convicted of horrific child pornography charges. Like, the worst. It's really thrown me, I have a two year old and a four year old and I want them to be able to play in their garden without worrying about him watching or worse.
We live on a really small street which the name of was reported in the local paper so I am also a bit worried about potential vigilante type actions. I am obviously hoping he moves away (his marriage has collapsed so I'm hoping he financially has to) but no sign of that yet. Incredibly he got a suspended sentence, what a joke. Am I unreasonable to feel like I want to move?! What do I do?

OP posts:
Lemonfrost · 02/12/2025 21:14

Thank you Sarover. Your post perfectly illustrates why good and rational decision making should remain separate from emotion.

Sarover · 02/12/2025 21:09

Obviouslyneedtonamechange · 02/12/2025 19:24

Why are you so keen for him to carry on living a happy and undisturbed life? All you've done is say to leave him alone and stop making drama.
It's like you're supportive of his perversions. I'm absolutely telling all the adjacent families who might otherwise have normal friendly interactions with him. I'm not sitting on the news and removing their choice of whether they also want to build privacy screens to obscure his otherwise uninterrupted view of their young kids playing in their garden.

OP this doesn’t match what @Lemonfrost or any other poster, has said at all! Who said they wanted him to have a happy life? Nobody. Who supports his perversions? Absolutely nobody. Not even close.

I have huge sympathy with your situation. I’d hate to be in your shoes and I would feel the same fear and panic as you. I would also feel extreme anger towards my neighbour and wish he would go. Your anger and revulsion are justified and completely understandable. But your feelings aren’t the best basis for deciding rationally how to react to your neighbour. That is what @Lemonfrost and others are telling you.

Lemonfrost · 02/12/2025 20:41

Obviouslyneedtonamechange · 02/12/2025 19:24

Why are you so keen for him to carry on living a happy and undisturbed life? All you've done is say to leave him alone and stop making drama.
It's like you're supportive of his perversions. I'm absolutely telling all the adjacent families who might otherwise have normal friendly interactions with him. I'm not sitting on the news and removing their choice of whether they also want to build privacy screens to obscure his otherwise uninterrupted view of their young kids playing in their garden.

This post is a complete fiction on your part.

I have made no comment on him "living a happy and undisturbed life"

I don't recall saying "leave him alone" either - but please do correct me if I am wrong.

You become grossly offensive, not to mention ridiculous, when you say it's like I am "supportive of his perversions".

But carry on OP, you obviously enjoy creating your own narrative, which is evident really when you look at this thread.

Kibble19 · 02/12/2025 19:27

Obviouslyneedtonamechange · 02/12/2025 19:24

Why are you so keen for him to carry on living a happy and undisturbed life? All you've done is say to leave him alone and stop making drama.
It's like you're supportive of his perversions. I'm absolutely telling all the adjacent families who might otherwise have normal friendly interactions with him. I'm not sitting on the news and removing their choice of whether they also want to build privacy screens to obscure his otherwise uninterrupted view of their young kids playing in their garden.

I agree with this. I wouldn’t be putting that scumbag’s right to privacy and a peaceful life above the right of those around him to know what he is. His crimes are unforgivable and he should be forced to deal with the fallout from it until the day he dies.

Obviouslyneedtonamechange · 02/12/2025 19:24

Lemonfrost · 02/12/2025 18:17

No, everybody doesn't need to know.

Why are you so keen for him to carry on living a happy and undisturbed life? All you've done is say to leave him alone and stop making drama.
It's like you're supportive of his perversions. I'm absolutely telling all the adjacent families who might otherwise have normal friendly interactions with him. I'm not sitting on the news and removing their choice of whether they also want to build privacy screens to obscure his otherwise uninterrupted view of their young kids playing in their garden.

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Ghhhn · 02/12/2025 19:20

Obviouslyneedtonamechange · 02/12/2025 17:52

We're also looking at the best way to block vision - it's tricky as they are tall houses on a hill.

Well done.

Any creepy behavior contact the police. Don’t take matters into your own hands and end up in trouble.

UsernameMcUsername · 02/12/2025 19:14

Lemonfrost · 02/12/2025 18:17

No, everybody doesn't need to know.

This kind of thing just pushes offenders into living much more transient lives, constantly moving from place to place, which makes them harder to keep track of. It doesn't help at all actually.

Lemonfrost · 02/12/2025 18:52

Rosscameasdoody · 02/12/2025 18:48

It really isn’t. Some adult pornography is classed as extreme and it’s illegal to make, possess, view or distribute it. And when watching adult porn you have no way of knowing whether participants are there of their own free will, or have been coerced. It perpetuates the cycle of abuse that those trafficked into this type of work suffer. So no. None of it is ‘legitimate’.

Sorry, but I disagree - it's a fact that much porn is legitimate, well established and often part of mainstream culture. You don't have to like it, but that's how it is. I think it's pretty risky to put companies like Bellessa, or Club or Fiesta magazine in the same category as depictions of the sexual abuse of children.

Rosscameasdoody · 02/12/2025 18:48

Lemonfrost · 02/12/2025 18:34

That's a separate debate. For the purpose and context of this thread, adult pornography is classed as a legitimate entity.

It really isn’t. Some adult pornography is classed as extreme and it’s illegal to make, possess, view or distribute it. And when watching adult porn you have no way of knowing whether participants are there of their own free will, or have been coerced. It perpetuates the cycle of abuse that those trafficked into this type of work suffer. So no. None of it is ‘legitimate’.

thestudio · 02/12/2025 18:42

shuggles · 02/12/2025 17:39

@thestudio Pornography implies consent.

No it doesn't.

That word simply refers to media intended to cause sexual arousal.

In this context I think you are wrong.

A coerced or stolen pornographic image of an adult women would not be classed as pornography - the criminal circumstances of its manufacture would outweigh the more general classification.

TheWildZebra · 02/12/2025 18:39

I’m sorry to hear this it sounds really distressing.

my vote is on do nothing and have no contact.

a study 2 years ago showed that 1 in 6 men have interests in children under the age of 18. As a survivor of CSA myself, I absolutely do not wish to minimise the impacts on victims, which is life changing and awful. My only caution is that, adults who have inappropriate feelings towards children are far more common than we think, and you moving house isn’t going to necessarily reduce your risk, and even if he moves out, how do you know that others aren’t a risk and they haven’t been caught yet.

TLDR: feels like something hard to control, just make sure your kids are confident and trust talking to you / understand what behaviour is normal and acceptable from adults.

the study here: theconversation.com/a-survey-found-1-in-6-men-admit-sexual-feelings-for-children-so-is-paedophilia-increasing-218124

thestudio · 02/12/2025 18:39

Rosscameasdoody · 02/12/2025 18:32

Agree that it isn’t child pornography - the term is child sexual abuse, let’s call it what it is. But nobody should think of the word phonographs as implying consent in any circumstance, given that so many people taking part are trafficked and forced into it.

Edited

I agree - but in legal terms, we are where we are. And at the level of misogyny both internalised and active amonsgt the general population, this is the best way to ensure that there is no possibility of any 'but if they consented..' discourse, which is particularly likely after children reach puberty.

It's best not to muddle two issues. You can't fight child abuse while simulaltaneously debating pornography. One thing at a time, even though they come from the same seed, which is male violence.

Lemonfrost · 02/12/2025 18:34

Rosscameasdoody · 02/12/2025 18:32

Agree that it isn’t child pornography - the term is child sexual abuse, let’s call it what it is. But nobody should think of the word phonographs as implying consent in any circumstance, given that so many people taking part are trafficked and forced into it.

Edited

That's a separate debate. For the purpose and context of this thread, adult pornography is classed as a legitimate entity.

ThisAutumnTown · 02/12/2025 18:34

Also ‘Child pornography’ isn’t the correct term - it’s ’child sexual abuse images/videos’.

ThisAutumnTown · 02/12/2025 18:33

According to statistics, there are enough pedophiles in the UK for there to be one on every street.
At least you know where this one is.
Grey rock him, do not acknowledge him and in the summer if your children are in the garden in swimwear, put a gazebo up to block his view.
If he walks past you when you’re with your children, make sure to hold their hands tight and move them away from him.

He’s scum! I honestly hope he moves far, far away.

Rosscameasdoody · 02/12/2025 18:32

thestudio · 02/12/2025 17:12

Pornography implies consent. A child cannot consent.

Agree that it isn’t child pornography - the term is child sexual abuse, let’s call it what it is. But nobody should think of the word phonographs as implying consent in any circumstance, given that so many people taking part are trafficked and forced into it.

Lemonfrost · 02/12/2025 18:32

shuggles · 02/12/2025 18:30

@Lemonfrost Shall I find you another hair to split?

That's not what "splitting hairs" means.

As for point 2, I work in the field. We don't use the CP term and have not done so for years. You can make of that what you will.

Regardless of what terminology you use, what you are saying makes no logical sense.

I will politely point out that use of the term "child abuse image" is non-specific and includes images that aren't sexual in nature. If an offender is viewing sexual images specifically, is it not important to call that out?

OK. You don't understand my terminology, I have attempted to explain it. You don't agree. There really isn't anything more to say.

shuggles · 02/12/2025 18:30

@Lemonfrost Shall I find you another hair to split?

That's not what "splitting hairs" means.

As for point 2, I work in the field. We don't use the CP term and have not done so for years. You can make of that what you will.

Regardless of what terminology you use, what you are saying makes no logical sense.

I will politely point out that use of the term "child abuse image" is non-specific and includes images that aren't sexual in nature. If an offender is viewing sexual images specifically, is it not important to call that out?

Lemonfrost · 02/12/2025 18:21

shuggles · 02/12/2025 18:17

The first point is that whether pornography is legitimate depends on where you are, and who you talk to. In many countries, it is illegal. On mumsnet, either a majority, or at least a large minority, would probably argue that pornography is not acceptable.

Second point is... what you are saying makes no logical sense. 'Pornography' is a parent category, which consists of numerous subcategories. If we assume for argument's sake that some of the subcategories are acceptable, that does not mean or imply that all subcategories are acceptable. This type of reasoning is very surprising and confusing to me.

Shall I find you another hair to split? In the UK, where post is centred, adult pornography is LEGAL. Whether people fond it acceptable or not is another debate entirely.

As for point 2, I work in the field. We don't use the CP term and have not done so for years. You can make of that what you will.

Lemonfrost · 02/12/2025 18:17

Blizzardofleaves · 02/12/2025 18:05

Op I would have the local police force check his conditions. Some convicted sex offenders are supposed to be placed away from young children. I would also ask that they come and reassure the street. Everyone needs to know, even the elderly may have grandchildren visiting etc.

Edited

No, everybody doesn't need to know.

LostittoBostik · 02/12/2025 18:17

BadgernTheGarden · 02/12/2025 12:01

I would still check with the police there have been some horrendous mistaken identities around paedophiles.

If it’s reported in the newspapers it’s a conviction in a court of law.

shuggles · 02/12/2025 18:17

Lemonfrost · 02/12/2025 18:10

Because pornography is seen as, and often is, legitimate. You can legally buy it, make it, watch it and sell it. When we start talking about 'child pornography' we are placing it in the same bracket, as a niche offshoot. It's not acceptable.

The first point is that whether pornography is legitimate depends on where you are, and who you talk to. In many countries, it is illegal. On mumsnet, either a majority, or at least a large minority, would probably argue that pornography is not acceptable.

Second point is... what you are saying makes no logical sense. 'Pornography' is a parent category, which consists of numerous subcategories. If we assume for argument's sake that some of the subcategories are acceptable, that does not mean or imply that all subcategories are acceptable. This type of reasoning is very surprising and confusing to me.

Lemonfrost · 02/12/2025 18:15

Happyjoe · 02/12/2025 17:06

Sorry, I don't think it legitimises it. 'Child pornography' is not two words that ever should be together.

That's exactly the point I am making.

Bigcat25 · 02/12/2025 18:13

Obviouslyneedtonamechange · 02/12/2025 17:51

My neighbour and I were discussing this earlier. We now feel we have a duty to disclose this to any families should we sell, which will clearly end the sale 🤦 my best hope I think is for him to not be able to afford a big house without a job and hopefully a very expensive divorce and be forced to move himself. For the people thinking another paedophile will immediately move in to the house, at the moment it's a 100% chance of a horrible creature living there. If someone else moves in the odds are that they aren't, and if they are - well we're no worse off are we.

Yes, what a hassle! Sorry you have to deal with this op!

Lemonfrost · 02/12/2025 18:10

shuggles · 02/12/2025 15:45

How on earth does that imply legitimacy?

Because pornography is seen as, and often is, legitimate. You can legally buy it, make it, watch it and sell it. When we start talking about 'child pornography' we are placing it in the same bracket, as a niche offshoot. It's not acceptable.

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