“Just the tip”

I live in the US and I can assure you the vast majority of people ignore the tip option on payment machines when they’re buying something to go. You tip for sit-down meals, not a takeaway juice.

It's not stupid to want a tip, no. But they shouldn't have to verbally ask. And if they do and it's a no it should be handled with grace and politeness.

All hospitality businesses seem to have the tip option on their payment screens now. I never give one and the staff can see I don't, but they're still always really nice to me!

This is normal in USA and there is nothing I hate more. I grabbed a croissant, took it to till and was asked for a tip.

WonderfulSmith

Thank you, had no idea, I was literally sitting there trying to figure out what it all meant😅

It's a brand, the implication seemed to be that it was company policy when, in fact, it was one employee overreaching. The brand is irrelevant.

The 'just the tip' would entirely pass me by.

Given minimum wage is now the wage for huge numbers of skilled, experienced and qualified individuals, I think tipping for 'service' is out-dated in the UK.

We are a service economy. The vast majority of us provide a personal service to individuals, sometimes extremely personal as described above.

Why is giving someone a drink in a cafe worth tipping whilst giving someone a drink in a care role not?

It’s been a ‘line’ since the 70s or so.

I don’t live in London either but I worked it out through context. I agree that it was confusing initially and I had to read it a few times to make sense.

There plenty of similar jobs that are comparable or far harder than hospitality that pay the same where people are never tipped. Carers, TAs, dental nurses, fast food staff, retail etc etc, no-one ever tips, yet if someone carries a plate of food across a room, interrupts your meal to upsell you things you don't want and disappears when you want to pay the bill, this is somehow deserving of a tip.

Plenty of people in the NHS don't earn much more than NMW and can't afford pension contributions anyway. Plus earnings are only loosely related to what money people 'need' as their circumstances are more relevant. That NHS worker might be the breadwinner for a family, while the juice bar worker is doing a couple of shifts a week so they have some financial independence or can pay for luxuries and have a high earning partner who pays all the household bills.

Wow. So a carer on minimum wage gets an NHS pension? Great!
Hospitality staff are not the only ones with unreliable hours and a low wage. I am on minimum wage. I can’t afford to top up all the other minimum wage people I interact with.

It’s not just from Archer. It was a trope way before that.

Presumably it's in London. Not everyone lives in London, in fact most people don't, so she could have just said 'a juice bar'. Loads of places like this have a tip jar, you don't have to use it. I rarely carry cash these days anyway.

Meant to add, as other peeps have pointed out quite rightly, there are 100's jobs apart from hospitality that are on nmw, so by your reckoning they should recieve tips too?
If others want to tip that's up to them they must have more money than me to do so, if they are subsidizing me that's fine, my hard earnt money from my nmw job now pays MY bills and helps MY family and MY charity choice.

That can jog right off for a start.
I didn't work for the nhs, there is nursing outside of that I worked for Marie Curie in the day, loved the job, but lousy pay for very long hours.
No, still not tipping either.

Everyone in the UK will be paid the NMW at the very least. I don't tip the supermarket worker every time they scan my food shopping, or tip the classroom assistant every month. Do you?

Tipping should be abolished and filed under extortion.

I've used an online site can't remember which one it was now - think some sort of health food thing and the website asked me if I wanted to tip? no, do I fuck. I wouldn't tip anyone If they pointed out the tip jar to me. Could they possibly have been pointing it out because they knew you would have preferred to pay in cash and perhaps didn't have the tip money to put on your card? still cheeky though.

I venture that the person on the till in the supermarket, the person who works in the corner shop, the person working in the past food place are also on minimum wage. It’s not just hospitality that is poorly paid. Lots of jobs are. Someone waiting on a table I’m happy to tip. Someone who presses a button on a machine or puts a pastry in a bag, less so.

Hospitality staff rely on tips. If you never tip, you are being subsidised by people that do. You get paid a lot more than the waiter. And you get an NHS pension. (Making assumptions here!!) You don't need tips, people in hospitality do.

I think you need to know that Joe the Juice is a takeaway drinks place selling juice.
The op was in one of the shops and is annoyed that they wanted a tip for a basic job and that they had a crude joke on the tip jar.

Thank you - sounds very niche!

It's a quote/running joke from the animated spy series Archer.

I don’t get it - just the tip and a winkey face and aubergine means nothing to me. Aubergine = penis, I get that but it still doesn’t make any sense

Has nobody else spotted the Archer reference?

It is the current practice of automatically adding a voluntary charge that annoys me the most. I ask for a peppermint tea £3.20. The bill adds a 12.5% service charge and is £3.60. Even an expensive teabag is about 20p so I have already paid £3 to voer the cost of the staff, the premises, the hot water, the washing up.

What has the server done? Got a teabag out of a box, stuck it in a pot, pulled a handle to pour in hot water. Job done. What extra service am I paying 12.5% for? They didn't advise me on the provenance of the peppermint, nor share expert knowledge of how the leaves were grown and harvested. They did not bless the tea in a sacred ritual, or blow magic dust over the cup, or brew it in the tears of a mythical golden rabbit.

Instead, I have to embarrass myself by being so mean as to ask for the 40p additional charge to be removed.

If they're on minimum wage they may be paid the same as me. They add boiling water to a tea bag, I deal with severely demented patients. I love my job, I feel rewarded by it. But nobody pays me 12.5% every time I wipe drool from someone's mouth, or manage confusion, aggression, distress.

Have ready that Mrs Browns expression when she says “that’s nice!” Sweetly but actually means fuck off!😂😂 You know what you REALLY mean but they don’t but the sweet expression and smile and the “that’s nice” throws them 🤣😂😂

that “that’s nice” is what I’d say when they say there’s the tip jar 😂