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shoelances · 2025-11-30T23:14:29+00:00

This is madness. Can the last taxpayer in the UK please close the door behind them. https://www.msn.com/en-gb/money/other/households-on-handouts-to-be-18-000-better-off-than-families-on-modest-wages/ar-AA1RqxlQ

Laurenwhitelow · 02/12/2025 18:06

Nsky62 · 02/12/2025 18:04

Back on track now tho

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What?

Nsky62 · 02/12/2025 18:04

Laurenwhitelow · 02/12/2025 17:59

I never even had a job until I was 21 I’m very ashamed of it and understand why people are resentful of their tax money being spent on other people I became pregnant at 15 gave birth when I was 16 yes it’s my fault but I was young, stupid and romantic didn’t even know about benefits when I got pregnant but luckily there were benefits or idk what I would have done. I had a thread the other day and maybe someone will recognise my name and tell me they’re sick of hearing about this, but I’m just saying most people on benefits with children didn’t just have their children for benefits

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Back on track now tho

dreamiesformolly · 02/12/2025 18:04

Bumblebee72 · 02/12/2025 17:58

Its sad that you see a world where people aren't dependent on the state to eat or for a roof over their head as a fairy tale.

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I don't. It's your nonsense 'thoughts and lived experience' that are the fairy tale.

Bumblebee72 · 02/12/2025 18:04

dreamiesformolly · 02/12/2025 18:00

Is that aimed at me?

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I know nothing about you? You might be one of the mumsnetters who earns millions or a nurse or a whole range of different roles.

dreamiesformolly · 02/12/2025 18:03

Benjithedog · 02/12/2025 17:56

On the contrary there is no reasoning with you and if you’ve read my reply it clearly states that if those things did happen this is when benefits system would kick in which is what it issupposed to do . 🤷‍♀️

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Why are you assuming pp was speaking theoretically? I mean, she might have been and I might have misunderstood, but I find it interesting you made an assumption that allowed you to continue the snark.

dreamiesformolly · 02/12/2025 18:01

Benjithedog · 02/12/2025 17:55

No it’s called taking responsibility and we all have to do it to some degree. And if people didn’t care no taxes would be paid to help those in need.

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Would you pay taxes if you didn't have to? I mean you personally.

Bumblebee72 · 02/12/2025 18:01

dreamiesformolly · 02/12/2025 17:57

'Get' another proper job. Because there are plenty to go round, anyone can just 'get' one. Like popping down the corner shop for a pint of milk. Why don't you cop on and educate yourself? Oh, I forgot, you don't have to, because 'lived experience'.

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If you have the resources to set up a weed farm as you propose, which would be pretty capital intensive and I doubt you could get a bank loan to fund, you both don't need benefits and you would have the skills to set up a business trading on a legal trade.

dreamiesformolly · 02/12/2025 18:00

Bumblebee72 · 02/12/2025 17:53

That is a good definition of the piss takers. As long as the dole is flowing in they don't give a fuck about the country,.

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Is that aimed at me?

Frequency · 02/12/2025 17:59

dreamiesformolly · 02/12/2025 17:55

Sorry to hear that happened to you. 💐 Ignore the crazy, you can't reason with it.

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Thank you. The redundancy worked out for the best in the end. Even though I loved my job at the time, the job I have now has a lot of training opportunities and chances to step into other roles for short periods to gain experience.

Finding it took longer than I would have liked because the job market is terrible atm. If I didn't kill every plant I have ever looked at, setting up a weed farm might have been a tempting option, but luckily, there was a safety net available for me to cover the gap between jobs.

dreamiesformolly · 02/12/2025 17:59

Novemberstorm · 02/12/2025 17:49

It is not what I want. The housing situation outlook will be very bleak for some. Hence people need to cover all bases now why they can. Wise decisions, insurance policies, family support network etc.

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A lot of people would fall outside that safety net. I'm not claiming to have the answer to that, just saying a lot of people would do their level best and still not be able to manage.

Laurenwhitelow · 02/12/2025 17:59

Benjithedog · 02/12/2025 17:43

It’s called taking responsibility for yourselves rather than expect the taxpayer to pay for everything

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I never even had a job until I was 21 I’m very ashamed of it and understand why people are resentful of their tax money being spent on other people I became pregnant at 15 gave birth when I was 16 yes it’s my fault but I was young, stupid and romantic didn’t even know about benefits when I got pregnant but luckily there were benefits or idk what I would have done. I had a thread the other day and maybe someone will recognise my name and tell me they’re sick of hearing about this, but I’m just saying most people on benefits with children didn’t just have their children for benefits

Nsky62 · 02/12/2025 17:59

x12 · 01/12/2025 00:02

Do people not realise disability benefits are not means tested?

Pip isn’t, universal credit is, prob some would choose pip to be means tested😡

Bumblebee72 · 02/12/2025 17:58

dreamiesformolly · 02/12/2025 17:46

And in the next edition of 'Fairy Tales by Bumblebee72'...

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Its sad that you see a world where people aren't dependent on the state to eat or for a roof over their head as a fairy tale.

dreamiesformolly · 02/12/2025 17:57

Bumblebee72 · 02/12/2025 17:47

Or alternatively you just get another proper job....

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'Get' another proper job. Because there are plenty to go round, anyone can just 'get' one. Like popping down the corner shop for a pint of milk. Why don't you cop on and educate yourself? Oh, I forgot, you don't have to, because 'lived experience'.

Benjithedog · 02/12/2025 17:56

dreamiesformolly · 02/12/2025 17:55

Sorry to hear that happened to you. 💐 Ignore the crazy, you can't reason with it.

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On the contrary there is no reasoning with you and if you’ve read my reply it clearly states that if those things did happen this is when benefits system would kick in which is what it issupposed to do . 🤷‍♀️

Benjithedog · 02/12/2025 17:56

dreamiesformolly · 02/12/2025 17:52

And what do they have in common? They're both genuine conditions ffs.

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They are but not all claimants are genuine

Novemberstorm · 02/12/2025 17:56

JenniferBooth · 02/12/2025 17:53

Wouldnt go down well here I live near Wethersfield air base. If you cut HB so ppl get made homeless/kicked out of social housing/private renting whiile the asylum seekers dont that would light the blue touchpaper. Its already simmering.

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At that point the air base would have had the people deported.

dreamiesformolly · 02/12/2025 17:55

Frequency · 02/12/2025 17:45

Great. Next time I get made redundant, or my husband dies, I will set up a weed farm. I assume you're okay with me marketing my product to your kids? After all, I would be taking personal responsibility and not asking your taxes to help me.

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Sorry to hear that happened to you. 💐 Ignore the crazy, you can't reason with it.

Benjithedog · 02/12/2025 17:55

dreamiesformolly · 02/12/2025 17:51

It's called not giving a shit about anyone except yourself.

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No it’s called taking responsibility and we all have to do it to some degree. And if people didn’t care no taxes would be paid to help those in need.

JenniferBooth · 02/12/2025 17:53

Novemberstorm · 02/12/2025 17:36

Housing benefit needs to be cut. Painful at first but ultimately it will educate people to make wiser decisions.

Wouldnt go down well here I live near Wethersfield air base. If you cut HB so ppl get made homeless/kicked out of social housing/private renting whiile the asylum seekers dont that would light the blue touchpaper. Its already simmering.

Benjithedog · 02/12/2025 17:53

UserFront242 · 02/12/2025 17:47

Vile.
Do you know anyone with mental health problems? I guess not as you seem to think they don't actually exist.

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I didn’t say that but you are naive to think that every claim based on mental health is genuine. There are some in desperate need and there are others who aren’t and the one who suffer are the genuine cases because there isn’t enough money put into mental health services by a long way. It all has a knock on effect and it’s those who swing the lead are the ones you should be angry with not me.

Bumblebee72 · 02/12/2025 17:53

dreamiesformolly · 02/12/2025 17:51

It's called not giving a shit about anyone except yourself.

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That is a good definition of the piss takers. As long as the dole is flowing in they don't give a fuck about the country,.

dreamiesformolly · 02/12/2025 17:52

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And what do they have in common? They're both genuine conditions ffs.

dreamiesformolly · 02/12/2025 17:51

Benjithedog · 02/12/2025 17:43

It’s called taking responsibility for yourselves rather than expect the taxpayer to pay for everything

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It's called not giving a shit about anyone except yourself.

UserFront242 · 02/12/2025 17:49

Bumblebee72 · 02/12/2025 17:43

People fall into two catagories those that solve problems and support themselves and those that come up with excuses for why they can't do things. They always have a bloody excuse. Tough love is needed.

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Where do people in care homes come in? Or disabled?