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Neighbours have decided that myself and NDN park some of our cars in another street to make it fairer for everyone. AIBU to ignore the request?

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SumoFarah · 30/11/2025 20:39

I live on a street with unrestricted parking and few driveways. I know it might sound excessive but my family and NDN family have 7 cars between us. I can’t get a drive out in as the street is really narrow so I would need the space opposite to be empty in order to exit.

A neighbour on the street knocked on my and NDN to explain that our six cars take up too much space and means that:

  1. neighbours who finish work late can never get a space so have to park on another street and walk
  2. their weekend visitors can never get a space
  3. on weekends they sometimes have to park in the middle of the road to unload their shopping and then go and find somewhere else to park

We we’re told that ‘they all’ think everyone should agree to use a maximum of 2 spaces to use as they wish and any further space needed should be used in the free car park about 1/2 mile away.

Also that the two teenagers (one mine, one NDN) don’t need cars as they are still in school so should have no need for cars anyway.

I get that parking spaces are at a premium, and can be frustrating when all the spaces are taken, but I don’t want myself or my dc to walk 1/2 mile in the dark (or the light, for that matter) just to placate the neighbours when there’s a space available. All our cars are pretty much used on a daily basis.

NDN told the messenger neighbour that it’s first-come-first-served. I do understand the annoyance but don’t agree with the suggestion because some houses only have one car and some houses don’t have a car, so should balance out in theory, but obviously doesn’t in practice.

Would I be unreasonable to ignore the ‘request’?

Suggestions welcomed.

OP posts:
zingally · 01/12/2025 17:09

Yeah, 7 cars between two households is ridiculous. And must be incredibly annoying to the family with one car who can't park on their road due to all those additional vehicles. I completely get their point.
HOWEVER, it's the nature of buying a house without an assigned space or a private driveway.
You are perfectly within your rights to do nothing. But a bit of neighbourly consideration, and perhaps taking it in turns within your own family to park elsewhere, would be appreciated I'm sure!

FancyBiscuitsLevel · 01/12/2025 16:01

I do think @Politicians247UnderwearExtinguishingServicemakes a good point, with younger people needing to live in their parents home longer to save towards getting their own property, you are going to have more and more properties with 4 or more adults in them, nor just the “standard” of 2 adults. Housing stock built on the expectation of 1 or 2 cars per house (or none for older properties) will have to adapt.

ODFOx · 01/12/2025 15:51

If our DC hadn’t all gone to uni and either took their cars or gave them up we’d have had several more than our drive fits, so I do sympathise. Our neighbours also have older /young adult kids now so our cul de sac is very busy.
You are paying as much road tax per vehicle as everyone else so have the right to park on the street. It certainly isn’t unreasonable for all the drivers to have a car each.
As long as you aren’t putting cones out and are working on ‘first come first served’ then it is fair enough.

MrsOverthinker25 · 01/12/2025 15:22

Redpeach · 01/12/2025 15:20

Ah my bad, i thought it was you telling posters what they could or couldn't comment on, resorting to insults is not great

Agreed, I apologise :)

Redpeach · 01/12/2025 15:20

MrsOverthinker25 · 01/12/2025 11:51

Where did I tell others how to behave? Please enlighten me?? Not just me by the way that pointed out how irrelevant the question was 😘😘 idiot.

Edited

Ah my bad, i thought it was you telling posters what they could or couldn't comment on, resorting to insults is not great

Redpeach · 01/12/2025 15:16

sandyhappypeople · 01/12/2025 12:29

You think asking the OP if she thinks that spending £5k on car insurance is fundamentally wrong is an interesting question?

Car insurance is a legal requirement.. it can't be fundamentally wrong to purchase it, so what was the relevance of your question?

I never said anything about it being fundamentally wrong, maybe another pp?

Politicians247UnderwearExtinguishingService · 01/12/2025 15:11

BatshitOutofHell · 01/12/2025 13:30

Op and NDN and their families could also be dangerous drivers.

Absolutely they could - none of us on this thread can know.

But it seemed kind of odd to be assuming that they would be dangerous drivers, purely based on their age and/or whom they live with.

Cattenberg · 01/12/2025 15:08

Politicians247UnderwearExtinguishingService · 01/12/2025 01:23

It just doesn't make sense to say that everybody can have vehicles but only as long as they fit on the piece of adjacent street of an equivalent width to their house.

What about very narrow and tall houses? Flats and maisonettes? Houses with double yellow lines, crossings or other features outside meaning that parking is illegal or very unsafe right outside their house?

We really need to get away from the bizarre idea that the land where your own home is located somehow entitles you to an equivalent amount of the nearby public road for parking purposes. Your own private home is for your (and your guests') use only. Legal, unrestricted and safe spaces on the public road are for anybody's use.

In the same way that I don't have a right to use my neighbour's drive, just because it happens to be very close to my own home, I also have no right over anybody else to park on the public road that happens to be near to my home. It would be great arrogance to assume otherwise. I could always approach the council and ask if they might be willing to sell that piece of land to me, but assuming that they won't wish to do so, it will not become my property.

Yes, there will be exceptions, but I think it's a good general rule that if you have more cars than you can park outside your own property, then you will be causing an inconvenience to someone else.

I lived in an end-terrace which had been converted into two flats. There were actually SIX parking spaces outside the house and garden, of which my upstairs neighbour used one and I only needed one space sometimes for visitors and deliveries. I didn't object to other people using up four of the spaces. But I don't think it was arrogant of me to not to want to take three or four days off work just to have a sofa delivered, because for the first few attempts the delivery drivers couldn't park anywhere near the building.

In a previous post, I also mentioned how crossing the roads was unsafe, especially for schoolchildren, due to the cars parked on both sides and on junctions, and that on one occasion, a fire engine hadn't been able to get through. I was relieved when a residents' parking scheme was introduced, despite angry opposition from some of the multi-car households.

HelplessSoul · 01/12/2025 14:13

ZenNudist · 01/12/2025 10:49

3 cars isn't daft if you have 3 driving aged people in the house. It's not neighbour's business to tell you where to park. If your NDN has 4 cars it depends if that's 4 cars in daily use or say someone has work and personal vehicles they can still park on the street if they get there first but its frustrating if they don't use the 3xtra vehicles that much.

We have 3 cars and one isn't used much so we park it round the corner and move it around a couple of streets.

Spot on.

Neighbour near me has 5 cars. 2 parents, 3x 20-something children of theirs.

They all work - in different places so car sharing isnt an option. Nor is public transport owing to location of workplace/s.

So them using the street is not an issue because if they werent using the spaces, other people would be. Whether the OP has 1 car or 1000, it is not for the other neighbour to dictate where the OP should / not park.

That neighbour is being a precious cunt. End of story.

OP - I feel sorry for the level of targetting you have needlessly suffered.

BackToLurk · 01/12/2025 14:05

ChloeMorningstar · 01/12/2025 13:39

Well clearly if there are 7 cars, and the op owns 3 there are 4 remaining.

I dont say me and my ndn have 8 cats, I say I have 3 and she has 5. We are not dependent on each other.

A neighbour on the street knocked on my and NDN

The reason they included all the cars is pretty obvious really. Sometimes I read MN threads and wonder how some people manage to function in the world.

BackToLurk · 01/12/2025 14:03

LikeMyHeartIsAboutToStopBeating · 01/12/2025 13:45

It’s entirely up to you. They can’t insist. But in their position I would have asked and be very strongly disinclined to be a good neighbour in the future if you rejected my request. Living near other people does require some give and take and if you aren’t going to give, don’t be surprised when people don’t want to accommodate you when you need to take.

TBH in the OP's position I may have looked more sympathetically on the request if they'd stuck to point 1 and 3. Visitors' parking is a separate issue, how many visitors for example, and it's really not their place to tell the OP who in the household 'needs' a car.

On a separate but related note. We have a free car park near us which some people used to avoid parking on the street. The landowners have decided they don't like that and have put in a time limit and ANPR cameras, and have started sending out fines.

LikeMyHeartIsAboutToStopBeating · 01/12/2025 13:45

It’s entirely up to you. They can’t insist. But in their position I would have asked and be very strongly disinclined to be a good neighbour in the future if you rejected my request. Living near other people does require some give and take and if you aren’t going to give, don’t be surprised when people don’t want to accommodate you when you need to take.

ChloeMorningstar · 01/12/2025 13:39

ThisLittlePony · 01/12/2025 12:23

If it’s 7 cars and op said her household only has 3 cars.. then living alone ndn has 4 to themselves?

Well clearly if there are 7 cars, and the op owns 3 there are 4 remaining.

I dont say me and my ndn have 8 cats, I say I have 3 and she has 5. We are not dependent on each other.

RedRiverShore5 · 01/12/2025 13:33

The whole street could be dangerous drivers.

BatshitOutofHell · 01/12/2025 13:30

Politicians247UnderwearExtinguishingService · 01/12/2025 12:54

How do we know that the neighbours on the street who are complaining aren't dangerous drivers?

Maybe if OP's and NDN's households make parking less convenient for them, they'll get rid of their cars and stop being lazy/use public transport instead - then that could equally mean more dangerous drivers off the road!!

Dangerous drivers can be young, old or middle-aged - it isn't their actual age (or housing situation) that automatically makes them bad drivers.

Op and NDN and their families could also be dangerous drivers.

BatshitOutofHell · 01/12/2025 13:29

Politicians247UnderwearExtinguishingService · 01/12/2025 13:06

But maybe the neighbours who also have 2 cars could share cars. Nobody has demonstrated that they are more virtuous in general or that they use their cars 'more worthily' - many of them will just happen to have fewer adults living in their homes.

Incidentally, there's also a housing crisis - so if OP's household own 'more than their fair share' of vehicles, why aren't the neighbours who only have one or two occupants in a house taking up 'more than their fair share' of housing?

I think my suggestion would apply to all of them. To all of us in fact.

Clearinguptheclutter · 01/12/2025 13:23

BatshitOutofHell · 01/12/2025 13:00

In a world where we are asked to buy less cars is it not conceivable that you could share the cars? You say you don't go out much in the evening. And walking is so good for you. You'll be less sumo Farah if you walked more.

Dh and I have shared a car since we first moved in together. Admittedly a major factor is that he wfh and the children either walk or get a bus to school. But it’s amazing how a family can manage perfectly well with one car with a bit of thought and planning. There has been the (very) occasional taxi ordered and we once had to rent a car for a month when he had a string of face to face meetings but the amount of money we have saved in 16 years is huge!

BringBackCatsEyes · 01/12/2025 13:08

ThisLittlePony · 01/12/2025 12:23

If it’s 7 cars and op said her household only has 3 cars.. then living alone ndn has 4 to themselves?

Where does OP say NDN lives alone?

Politicians247UnderwearExtinguishingService · 01/12/2025 13:06

BatshitOutofHell · 01/12/2025 13:00

In a world where we are asked to buy less cars is it not conceivable that you could share the cars? You say you don't go out much in the evening. And walking is so good for you. You'll be less sumo Farah if you walked more.

But maybe the neighbours who also have 2 cars could share cars. Nobody has demonstrated that they are more virtuous in general or that they use their cars 'more worthily' - many of them will just happen to have fewer adults living in their homes.

Incidentally, there's also a housing crisis - so if OP's household own 'more than their fair share' of vehicles, why aren't the neighbours who only have one or two occupants in a house taking up 'more than their fair share' of housing?

BringBackCatsEyes · 01/12/2025 13:05

BatshitOutofHell · 01/12/2025 13:00

In a world where we are asked to buy less cars is it not conceivable that you could share the cars? You say you don't go out much in the evening. And walking is so good for you. You'll be less sumo Farah if you walked more.

I have a car. I also walk and run and cycle and swim. I cannot replace my car usage with walking - grocery shopping, caring for elderly relative, going into the city, socialising.

BatshitOutofHell · 01/12/2025 13:00

In a world where we are asked to buy less cars is it not conceivable that you could share the cars? You say you don't go out much in the evening. And walking is so good for you. You'll be less sumo Farah if you walked more.

Politicians247UnderwearExtinguishingService · 01/12/2025 12:54

SingleSexSpacesInSchools · 01/12/2025 11:18

Buy far cheaper cars, don't insure young adults who would be better off walking and not driving for a thousand reasons, not least, saving aloe of money and keeping more dangerous drivers off the streets.

Yeah mad.

How do we know that the neighbours on the street who are complaining aren't dangerous drivers?

Maybe if OP's and NDN's households make parking less convenient for them, they'll get rid of their cars and stop being lazy/use public transport instead - then that could equally mean more dangerous drivers off the road!!

Dangerous drivers can be young, old or middle-aged - it isn't their actual age (or housing situation) that automatically makes them bad drivers.

JamieCannister · 01/12/2025 12:45

SumoFarah · 30/11/2025 21:36

Which is what I thought… until earlier today. DC not accepting to take turns parking further away, but I’m sure they’ll get used to it as I’ve said it’s not negotiable and not worth upsetting neighbours over.

We live in a world whereby -

(1) In many locations life is very hard without one car per adult / driver. In addition some people love cars and might wish to have a second "fun car" for weeknds. This is allowed!
(2) A three child household, with all of them in late teens early 20s and 5 cars in total is not at all extreme in such a location. Arguably 6 cars is normal too - Dad has a Mazda MX5 for Sunday morning drives in the summer ion addition to the SUV he commutes in.
(3) I am not saying it is right, but we live in a world where government has decided that if there are no restrictions and the car is taxed and insured you can park it up and leave it, potentially, for years outside someone else's house.
(4) I would not be parking further away when there is absolutely no guarantee that someone else won't park where I would have and other people still need to park further away and walk in the dark.
(5) If you buy a house and need a car then the cold hard reality is that you need to accept that you need to find the money to buy a house with enough driveway space for all of your parking needs, or you might find yourself having to park some distance away.
(6) Trying to be a bit considerate makes sense, but please don't be a mug - you have as much right to legally park as anyone else, and the number of cars in the household makes no difference. What are these neighbours doing to go out of their way to help you out despite no legal or moral obligation?

Politicians247UnderwearExtinguishingService · 01/12/2025 12:43

SingleSexSpacesInSchools · 01/12/2025 09:38

I grew up with F all, I haven't any qualifications and had several major life set backs before I was 16. My resilience thats got me through life and into owning my own business and doing well enough to look after my own children so well has in many ways backfired as they are far far less able to deal with perfectly normal life events. Yes I absolutely would put my children in less than perfect scenarios for their own long term good.

Fair enough, then - it's obviously not up to me how you bring up your kids.

FrippEnos · 01/12/2025 12:41

Where did the 7th car disappear too?

IMO (and late to the party) If the cars are used everyday then it should be first come first served.
If a car is not being used then it should go somewhere else

I am also wondering how many of the "2 spaces per household" only have 1 car, so it will be left empty unless they have visitors, which is being a CF.

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