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Is the renaming of Dublin’s Herzog Park antisemitic?

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OpheliaIsntMad · 30/11/2025 00:19

I think it is . Why make this decision at a time when anti semitism is increasing?

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OneGladPinkTraybake · 09/01/2026 13:19

SharonEllis · 09/01/2026 13:14

Agreed she has been pretty robust in arguing with us all and saying things that were factually wrong too!

I didn't call anyone names. That's crossing a line.

OneGladPinkTraybake · 09/01/2026 13:19

Kingscallops · 09/01/2026 12:58

You are on a discussion forum. Nobody is bullying you. You have posted no facts just articles to support your opinion. Not everybody has to agree with your opinion.

I have been called creep and weirdo. Posts that I have reported have been deleted. Leave me alone.

Boolabus · 09/01/2026 13:15

OpheliaIsntMad · 09/01/2026 11:57

I love Ireland! I could spend all day talking about the part of Ireland i love most. It is in my heart always.

I criticise UK a lot too by the way. There is so much wrong with politics etc . But I love England too.. in a different way.
In my experience most Irish are happy to criticise lots of aspects of their own country.
I would criticise “the Irish” people in general if thats what you’re implying

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I wish you a long and happy retirement there

I agree fully with @DaisyDenise posts on this thread who puts things very succinctly

SharonEllis · 09/01/2026 13:14

Kingscallops · 09/01/2026 12:58

You are on a discussion forum. Nobody is bullying you. You have posted no facts just articles to support your opinion. Not everybody has to agree with your opinion.

Agreed she has been pretty robust in arguing with us all and saying things that were factually wrong too!

Kingscallops · 09/01/2026 12:58

OneGladPinkTraybake · 09/01/2026 11:39

Oh my god. Can you leave me alone??

I have posted SO MUCH evidence to support what I say!!

You replied to it with laughing emojis!!

Yesterday you said you would not bother with me and I told you don't @ me again. But you lasted three hours before you started hassling me again. Leave me alone!

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You are on a discussion forum. Nobody is bullying you. You have posted no facts just articles to support your opinion. Not everybody has to agree with your opinion.

OpheliaIsntMad · 09/01/2026 12:20

DaisyDenise · 09/01/2026 12:13

There is anti-semitism in Ireland, there is no doubt. However, I think the world has been fed the idea that we are a nation of rabid anti-semites, which is far from the truth. I do believe Israeli propaganda had a hand in this (not including Rachel Moiselle!) in order to deflect from Ireland’s early and strong criticism of Israeli actions in Gaza.

In that sense I would like to minimise (not deny!) accusations of Irish antisemitism. I’d like the truth to be told, not disinformation or misinformation. I’d like journalists to give a clear, unvarnished picture of the problems but to place that in true context.

Again, the Chief Rabbi said in December (in one of the articles @SharonEllis linked) that it was his belief “that only a very small minority in this country wish to marginalise or threaten Jewish people. But even this small number is having a very real and damaging impact.” I agree.

Basically, I want accurate reporting. I think Rachel Moiselle is so passionate and inexperienced she has strayed from giving an accurate picture on occasion and that is damaging too.

I think all of that is reasonable and fair @DaisyDenise
I think the context and way in which Rachel Moiselle’s name was introduced to an old thread about antisemitism was unreasonable and rang alarm bells with me.
I don’t think Irish people are more antisemitic than other nations but since the incidents are increasing everywhere I think the focus should be on that.

This is going to be my last word ( unless I am unfairly maligned and tagged in )

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OneGladPinkTraybake · 09/01/2026 12:14

HappyFace2025 · 09/01/2026 12:03

I reported you for calling a mumsnetter a
t r o l l. More than once. Glad you now know the rules.

I do and I accept that I broke that rule. But one post was deleted, not loads, and theirs were too after I learned how to report.

OneGladPinkTraybake · 09/01/2026 12:13

OpheliaIsntMad · 09/01/2026 11:47

Just an observation- if a poster claims they are being bullied and doesn’t want interaction - but then keeps responding and tagging “the bully” in because they must have “the final word”!
One then has to question the accusation of bullying….

Stop it. You're the one being the bully. This is transparently just you trying to make a pile up on me. Leave me alone.

DaisyDenise · 09/01/2026 12:13

OpheliaIsntMad · 09/01/2026 11:51

It was a zombie thread.
traybake resurrected it with the sole intention of disparaging Rachel Moiselle. Given that the original thread was about antisemitism- I feel that the attempt was to deny or minimise accusations of Irish antisemitism.

There is anti-semitism in Ireland, there is no doubt. However, I think the world has been fed the idea that we are a nation of rabid anti-semites, which is far from the truth. I do believe Israeli propaganda had a hand in this (not including Rachel Moiselle!) in order to deflect from Ireland’s early and strong criticism of Israeli actions in Gaza.

In that sense I would like to minimise (not deny!) accusations of Irish antisemitism. I’d like the truth to be told, not disinformation or misinformation. I’d like journalists to give a clear, unvarnished picture of the problems but to place that in true context.

Again, the Chief Rabbi said in December (in one of the articles @SharonEllis linked) that it was his belief “that only a very small minority in this country wish to marginalise or threaten Jewish people. But even this small number is having a very real and damaging impact.” I agree.

Basically, I want accurate reporting. I think Rachel Moiselle is so passionate and inexperienced she has strayed from giving an accurate picture on occasion and that is damaging too.

HappyFace2025 · 09/01/2026 12:03

OneGladPinkTraybake · 09/01/2026 11:42

Are you the person who said there is no genocide? Is that why you reported me?

I had one post only deleted and I fully accept it was deleted because it was t-hunting. I know the rule now and I accept that.

No other posts for deleted.

I reported you for calling a mumsnetter a
t r o l l. More than once. Glad you now know the rules.

OpheliaIsntMad · 09/01/2026 12:02

OpheliaIsntMad · 09/01/2026 11:57

I love Ireland! I could spend all day talking about the part of Ireland i love most. It is in my heart always.

I criticise UK a lot too by the way. There is so much wrong with politics etc . But I love England too.. in a different way.
In my experience most Irish are happy to criticise lots of aspects of their own country.
I would criticise “the Irish” people in general if thats what you’re implying

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That should say I would NEVER criticise the “Irish” in general 😣

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OpheliaIsntMad · 09/01/2026 11:57

Boolabus · 09/01/2026 11:54

Everything you post about Ireland and the Irish (of which there is a lot) is always negative and critical so I would advise against retiring there, you will surely be miserable.

I love Ireland! I could spend all day talking about the part of Ireland i love most. It is in my heart always.

I criticise UK a lot too by the way. There is so much wrong with politics etc . But I love England too.. in a different way.
In my experience most Irish are happy to criticise lots of aspects of their own country.
I would criticise “the Irish” people in general if thats what you’re implying

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Boolabus · 09/01/2026 11:54

OpheliaIsntMad · 09/01/2026 11:32

I posted earlier about my connection with Ireland. The “I’m afraid” is a turn of phrase that means I’m about to disagree with you.

Everything you post about Ireland and the Irish (of which there is a lot) is always negative and critical so I would advise against retiring there, you will surely be miserable.

OpheliaIsntMad · 09/01/2026 11:51

DaisyDenise · 09/01/2026 11:45

Of course I have. I read them carefully and commented on them in previous posts. Quoted parts of the links @SharonEllis supplied.

This thread was a zombie. There was no derailment of an active discussion on anti-semitism. If I appear to be supporting others it’s because I agree with at least some of their points. I’ve agreed with some of your points too.

It was a zombie thread.
traybake resurrected it with the sole intention of disparaging Rachel Moiselle. Given that the original thread was about antisemitism- I feel that the attempt was to deny or minimise accusations of Irish antisemitism.

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OpheliaIsntMad · 09/01/2026 11:47

Just an observation- if a poster claims they are being bullied and doesn’t want interaction - but then keeps responding and tagging “the bully” in because they must have “the final word”!
One then has to question the accusation of bullying….

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DaisyDenise · 09/01/2026 11:45

OpheliaIsntMad · 09/01/2026 11:30

You’ve supported traybake’s narrative throughout. You have enabled the allegations about Moiselle to get a wider hearing than any discussion about the antisemitism in Ireland. You haven’t once picked up on the links documenting antisemitism.

Of course I have. I read them carefully and commented on them in previous posts. Quoted parts of the links @SharonEllis supplied.

This thread was a zombie. There was no derailment of an active discussion on anti-semitism. If I appear to be supporting others it’s because I agree with at least some of their points. I’ve agreed with some of your points too.

OneGladPinkTraybake · 09/01/2026 11:42

HappyFace2025 · 09/01/2026 11:41

I saw all your posts and reported them. At least three, if memory serves me.

Are you the person who said there is no genocide? Is that why you reported me?

I had one post only deleted and I fully accept it was deleted because it was t-hunting. I know the rule now and I accept that.

No other posts for deleted.

HappyFace2025 · 09/01/2026 11:41

OneGladPinkTraybake · 09/01/2026 11:37

One post was taken down because I broke the rules.

Then I followed the rules and their posts got deleted.

I saw all your posts and reported them. At least three, if memory serves me.

OneGladPinkTraybake · 09/01/2026 11:39

OpheliaIsntMad · 09/01/2026 11:38

You haven’t posted any evidence to support your allegations that she “peddles lies” , she is an agent of Israeli propaganda or that her motives are “murky” . Those are all your opinions but you’ve presented them as facts.
Im not bullying you. I am exasperated at the way you present opinions as facts .
I will stop replying to you but you must do the same.

Oh my god. Can you leave me alone??

I have posted SO MUCH evidence to support what I say!!

You replied to it with laughing emojis!!

Yesterday you said you would not bother with me and I told you don't @ me again. But you lasted three hours before you started hassling me again. Leave me alone!

OpheliaIsntMad · 09/01/2026 11:38

OneGladPinkTraybake · 09/01/2026 11:33

It's not a narrative. I've posted evidence. You're actually bullying me here.

You haven’t posted any evidence to support your allegations that she “peddles lies” , she is an agent of Israeli propaganda or that her motives are “murky” . Those are all your opinions but you’ve presented them as facts.
Im not bullying you. I am exasperated at the way you present opinions as facts .
I will stop replying to you but you must do the same.

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OneGladPinkTraybake · 09/01/2026 11:37

HappyFace2025 · 09/01/2026 11:35

And yet it was ok yesterday for you to repeatedly call a mumsnetter a t r o l l until your posts were taken down.

One post was taken down because I broke the rules.

Then I followed the rules and their posts got deleted.

HappyFace2025 · 09/01/2026 11:35

OneGladPinkTraybake · 09/01/2026 11:16

I don't think it's acceptable to call me names because you disagree with me.

And yet it was ok yesterday for you to repeatedly call a mumsnetter a t r o l l until your posts were taken down.

OneGladPinkTraybake · 09/01/2026 11:33

OpheliaIsntMad · 09/01/2026 11:30

You’ve supported traybake’s narrative throughout. You have enabled the allegations about Moiselle to get a wider hearing than any discussion about the antisemitism in Ireland. You haven’t once picked up on the links documenting antisemitism.

It's not a narrative. I've posted evidence. You're actually bullying me here.

OneGladPinkTraybake · 09/01/2026 11:32

Boolabus · 09/01/2026 11:29

I’m afraid I do know Ireland well - what a weird way to phrase that, careful I think your true feelings on Ireland are beginning to show

I do know that hiding away from uncomfortable truths is exactly what many Irish do
Maybe within your family but definitely not as a nation which is what I am referring to, over the past couple of decades, Ireland has faced up to their past and is working hard at reparations and righting the wrongs, as difficult as that may be. Do they always get it right? of course not but the debates happen

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Totally agree with this. The marriage referendum and abortion referendum are just two examples of how we've changed.

OpheliaIsntMad · 09/01/2026 11:32

Boolabus · 09/01/2026 11:29

I’m afraid I do know Ireland well - what a weird way to phrase that, careful I think your true feelings on Ireland are beginning to show

I do know that hiding away from uncomfortable truths is exactly what many Irish do
Maybe within your family but definitely not as a nation which is what I am referring to, over the past couple of decades, Ireland has faced up to their past and is working hard at reparations and righting the wrongs, as difficult as that may be. Do they always get it right? of course not but the debates happen

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I posted earlier about my connection with Ireland. The “I’m afraid” is a turn of phrase that means I’m about to disagree with you.

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