Is the renaming of Dublin’s Herzog Park antisemitic?

Yes it's anti-semetic. As an Irish person I am appalled but unfortunately not surprised at it.

Or the more than 50,000 Christians killed in Nigeria over the last four years.

Because renaming a park is not the same thing as mob violence. You’re being ridiculous.

Yup

Down to the genocide

Let's just call a spade a spade shall we

It's called integrity

You mean "the old defensive action against the deadliest terrorist attack in Israel's history."

FFS, a bit of the old terrorism is really effective, isn't it?

You've got people erasing the memories of Jewish people and flying flags in support of terrorists who attacked thousands, and kidnapped an 8 year old girl from her home and gang-raped her until her pelvis dislocated. Oh, and a high ranking official then declared that 'we will repeat the attacks until Israel is annihilated.'

But inaccurate labelling really does work on the useful idiots, clearly.

What were his accomplishments in Ireland - he left in his teens?

We Irish are setting ourselves up as some sort of moral judge and jury for the world, but are extremely myopic when it suits.

Ireland is one of Israel's largest import partners, with total imports valued at around $4.15 billion in 2024. That’s not going to change, as it’s part and parcel of our profit washing deal with large US companies who keep the place afloat.

We say we fight for the under dog but never once have I hear the plight of the Uyghurs discussed in person or the appalling situation in Yemen. Yet thousands marched for Palestine in Dublin yesterday.

It’s clearly antisemitic.

This is why you have to keep blaming the rest of the world for being 'antisemitic'. It's your own delusional attachment to a completely false narrative.

There is no genocide. The war, at worst, is no different to any other.
At best, Israel has gone out of its way to avoid civilian casualties.

Why are you blaming the whole of Ireland? The government has come out against it. The people have no say in it.
Dial it back, FFS.

I know someone who is passionately pro-Palestinian, and anti-Israel, to the point that yes, I do think he veer can close to anti-semitism in some of his statements (though he would deny it) even he is uncomfortable with this. It’s just not a good look in any way.

Nonsense

They stand up for Palestine
They call out a genocide for what it is

How could they do otherwise???
Impossible to ignore it

I'm Irish, I think Dublin City Council was acting disgracefully. Chaim Herzog is a person for Ireland to be proud of.

National politicians are (rightly) distancing themselves from this. If there's a mood for renaming things we should start with anything named for John Mitchel.

You are 100% tarring this man with the anti Semitic brush, no doubt without once looking up his career or the positions of the party he was a member of. You are also seemingly unaware of the fact that the presidency of Israel is very much a figurehead role

No, I'm well aware of all of this, and again, there is nothing whatsoever "anti- Semitic" in scrutinising the behaviours of a nation state or its senior politicians. It happens to every country which involves themselves in major world events. Do you similarly contend that any and all scrutiny and criticism of the Iranian Theocracy is anti-Islamic or anti-Shiite? No, of course you don't, because this would be every bit as baseless and ridiculous as claiming any scrutiny or criticism of Israel is entirely motivated by anti-Semitism.

We were happy to include Israel in the Eurovision and cheer for several winning Israeli acts, including one that claimed the trophy after Herzog left office. Were there no questions raised back in the period 1983 to 1993 about various Israeli policies? Apparently not.

Speak for yourself. Plenty of people were every bit as disgusted with the Israeli State's conduct in this period as they are now.

After all, we are perfectly willing to spit on the memory of a distinguished Irish Jewish man who was a member of a moderate Israeli party and served his adopted country with distinction at a time when we all thought Israel was the bees knees

Again you are speaking only for yourself regarding the "bees knees" comment.

Anyone who uses the genocide as an excuse to hate all Jews and spit on their memory is antiSemitic, yes.,

You misread my post.

My point was why don't the Irish go out and attack all the Jews living in Ireland, if we are so determined to express our repugnance at the policies of the current government? After all, we are perfectly willing to spit on the memory of a distinguished Irish Jewish man who was a member of a moderate Israeli party and served his adopted country with distinction at a time when we all thought Israel was the bees knees.

So anyone who mentions the genocide is antisemitic?

You are 100% tarring this man with the anti Semitic brush, no doubt without once looking up his career or the positions of the party he was a member of. You are also seemingly unaware of the fact that the presidency of Israel is very much a figurehead role.

It's enough for some that he was an Israeli Jew and there's a handy little park whose name once honored a man whose family were well respected members of the Irish community and the city of Dublin, and that this man was president of a country some of us will be fulminating against until the next popular cause for the terminally angry appears on the horizon, or they all turn vegan and feel sorry for themselves instead.

Carry on claiming that it's OK to single out one individual who happens to have had a military and political career in a state we once cheered for because they too beat the British (emulating the tactics of the IRA and adopting names like Michael.Collins as noms de guerre), and because back then we didn't like the Arabs who had not admitted the right of the state of Israel to exist, and we remembered the Holocaust, and the Limerick pogrom, and we recalled Irish politicians of the ilk of Oliver J. Flanagan, and the Irish who fought for Franco, with shame. We have very short memories and we are very, very smug and shameless nowadays.

We were happy to include Israel in the Eurovision and cheer for several winning Israeli acts, including one that claimed the trophy after Herzog left office. Were there no questions raised back in the period 1983 to 1993 about various Israeli policies? Apparently not.

All perfectly valid points, and I agree entirely that it's often overlooked just how many complicit Germans were either swiftly rehabilitated and incorporated post-war, or never taken to task or their role even queried.

However, my main point was about the State itself, the Governing regime, and the various people involved in the Government. The conclusion of the War in Europe did for the State and a fair number of the senior individuals in Government, most of the remainder apprehended and tried.

If the equivalent were to happen to Israel, so Netenyahu, his Government, and for arguments sake some of his predecessors were they still alive, apprehended and put on trial, I expect much the same would happen in wider Israel in that members of the IDF, Israeli businesses involved in supply chain, Israeli civil service, Israeli Intelligence etc would largely continue on with their lives completely unmolested, including those personally responsible for illegal acts, and those responsible for facilitating them. It just isn't feasible to interrogate every Israeli citizen, or, in the event you do somehow uncover some evidence of wrongdoing, compile a case against them and bring it to trial. This is why it's the leadership who are held to account for the actions of States, and not every single citizen or entity therein.

Clearly there wasn't the will, means, or framework to investigate and try every single German citizen alive in 1945, nor the will to formally dissolve complicit businesses. I do not believe that is or was in any way a realistic or practical undertaking in any case, given that there was no precedent for even trying the surviving German leadership.