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Is the renaming of Dublin’s Herzog Park antisemitic?

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OpheliaIsntMad · 30/11/2025 00:19

I think it is . Why make this decision at a time when anti semitism is increasing?

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Kittlewittle · 01/12/2025 12:51

Greysowhat · 01/12/2025 11:54

"The Irish Jewish community is feeling under siege"

I don't think so. Why on earth would they feel under siege??

Are you Irish Jewish, or even Jewish?

If not, then you have no business commenting.

Irish Jews are quite rightly feeling persecuted, in a time when Anti-Semitism in Ireland has reached record levels. Many have left the country, as they feel unsafe.

It is worth listening to minority voices, rather than dismissing their lived experiences.

Greysowhat · 01/12/2025 11:54

OpheliaIsntMad · 01/12/2025 09:11

The Irish Jewish community is feeling under siege during a time of increasing antisemitism.
Removing Jewish names from Irish public places in response to what is going on in another country is clearly divisive and antisemitic.
There are much better ways to support Palestinians . This proposed action helps no one and hurts the Jewish community.

"The Irish Jewish community is feeling under siege"

I don't think so. Why on earth would they feel under siege??

OpheliaIsntMad · 01/12/2025 09:11

ApplebyArrows · 01/12/2025 08:39

He wasn't just some random Jew though was he? He was literally head of the Israeli state during a period when the Israeli attitude towards Palestinians could hardly be classed as peace, love, sunshine, daisies and understanding.

The Irish Jewish community is feeling under siege during a time of increasing antisemitism.
Removing Jewish names from Irish public places in response to what is going on in another country is clearly divisive and antisemitic.
There are much better ways to support Palestinians . This proposed action helps no one and hurts the Jewish community.

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ApplebyArrows · 01/12/2025 08:39

He wasn't just some random Jew though was he? He was literally head of the Israeli state during a period when the Israeli attitude towards Palestinians could hardly be classed as peace, love, sunshine, daisies and understanding.

dairydebris · 01/12/2025 08:33

OpheliaIsntMad · 01/12/2025 08:29

I think this thread has run its course as the proposal has now been withdrawn.
However I did want to say how pleased I was to see the unequivocal and powerful comments by the Irish Taoiseach.

“Martin, who is the leader of Fianna Fáil, said that the proposal would erase the distinctive and rich contribution to Irish life of the Jewish community over many decades, including participation in the Irish War of Independence and the emerging Irish State.
"The proposal is a denial of our history... and will without any doubt be seen as anti-Semitic," he said.
"It is overtly divisive and wrong.
"Our Irish Jewish community's contribution to our country's evolution in its many forms should always be cherished and generously acknowledged."

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cg4nk2vp3n2o.amp

Thanks for sharing this thread, I agree encouraging in a way a lot of these threads are not.

OpheliaIsntMad · 01/12/2025 08:29

I think this thread has run its course as the proposal has now been withdrawn.
However I did want to say how pleased I was to see the unequivocal and powerful comments by the Irish Taoiseach.

“Martin, who is the leader of Fianna Fáil, said that the proposal would erase the distinctive and rich contribution to Irish life of the Jewish community over many decades, including participation in the Irish War of Independence and the emerging Irish State.
"The proposal is a denial of our history... and will without any doubt be seen as anti-Semitic," he said.
"It is overtly divisive and wrong.
"Our Irish Jewish community's contribution to our country's evolution in its many forms should always be cherished and generously acknowledged."

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cg4nk2vp3n2o.amp

A close shot of a metal plaque saying Herzog

Israel: Report in relation to renaming Herzog Park set to be withdrawn - BBC News

The park is named after Belfast-born and Dublin-raised Chaim Herzog, a former president of Israel.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cg4nk2vp3n2o.amp

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ColadhSamh · 30/11/2025 21:56

His son sending a message to the people of Palestine, #notinmyname
Not anti Semitic but definitely anti any Israeli who supports such actions.

BigGra · 30/11/2025 20:45

thetallfairy · 30/11/2025 10:43

They changed it to Hind Rijab park

Fitting tribute to an innocent child brutally slain 💔💔💔💔💔💔💔💔💔

This is not true.
Stop spreading untruths

Greysowhat · 30/11/2025 19:01

OpheliaIsntMad · 30/11/2025 00:19

I think it is . Why make this decision at a time when anti semitism is increasing?

They were not renaming it, there was to be a vote on it this week but that's been stopped now because of the antisemitism accusations

AwfullyGood · 30/11/2025 18:58

It has now been confirmed offically that the proposal has been withdrawn.

CircleSquared · 30/11/2025 18:54

Some of the comments here were really depressing but I’m pleased that currently 70% have voted YANBU. I especially appreciate the comments from those who are very pro-Palestine but still understand why this would be antisemitic.

XWKD · 30/11/2025 18:45

If it is eventually changed at some stage in the future, I think Yitzhak HaLevi Herzog would be a good candidate name. He was Chaim's father, and I think had an interesting relationship with Ireland and the foundation of the State.

BigGra · 30/11/2025 18:13

OpheliaIsntMad · 30/11/2025 08:42

Absolutely.
To change the name is to suggest Irish born Jews are somehow responsible for things that happen in other countries.
It must be deeply upsetting for Irish Jews.

agree. I am very Pro Palestine but am appalled at this proposal.
thankfully. I see the proposal has been withdrawal.

Sassy31 · 30/11/2025 17:45

Be interesting to know what Dublin cllr proposed this?
Sadly being an Irish person living in the Uk . Each time I go home the level of hate directed at the Jewish community makes me feel ill. Most of these people although well travelled , have never met a Jewish person.

YourOnMute · 30/11/2025 17:44

The park is not being renamed. The council involved is not renaming it.
A proposal has been made to the Council to rename it - I'm not sure by which Councillor(s). The Council has to discuss proposals put before it and this will be discussed tomorrow I think. It would need approval to be renamed. It is not the case that the whole Council is in agreement or going ahead with this or that it is an action on behalf of the Council.

AwfullyGood · 30/11/2025 17:41

I'm Irish and live relatively close to Herzog Park.

This proposal by some members of Dublin City Council does not reflect the opinion of the majority of people in Ireland who are strongly opposed to such a change.

The vast majority are disgusted by the proposal and there is huge opposition to it.

Joolsin · 30/11/2025 17:36

I am firmly pro-Palestine and pro non-expansionist Israel, anti-Netanyahu and his evil, genocidal policies. I also completely oppose the proposal by DCC to rename this park. It's a tribute to a very renowned Irishman and, whether or not it made sense to name it after him in the first place given that he left here as a very young man, it would be 100% anti-Semitic to change it right here, right now. I can just imagine the type of frothing, intolerant, "be-kind" useless idiot of a councillor who would come up with such a batshit plan in the first place. I intend to contact the Council tomorrow to register my disapproval before they vote tomorrow evening.

OpheliaIsntMad · 30/11/2025 17:33

YourOnMute · 30/11/2025 17:01

Yes, my understanding is that this name change has been suggested, certainly not agreed upon.

It’s good to hear there’s plenty of pushback.
It’s an appalling proposal at a time when Jewish communities feel under attack.

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SharonEllis · 30/11/2025 17:33

Of course its antisemitic. Herzog is long dead. To hold him responsible for things a current government of Israel is doing is obviously antisemitic and nonsensical. It erases a key part of Irish Jewish history.

OpheliaIsntMad · 30/11/2025 17:32

JaneJeffer · 30/11/2025 17:21

Any excuse to paint the whole of Ireland as antisemitic on the actions of a few members of Dublin City Council

No - that’s not what most posters are saying. Many Irish people disagree with this proposal and think it’s an antisemitic proposal on behalf of DCC.
It’s heartening to hear many Irish people reject this sort of antisemitism.

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JaneJeffer · 30/11/2025 17:21

Any excuse to paint the whole of Ireland as antisemitic on the actions of a few members of Dublin City Council

YourOnMute · 30/11/2025 17:01

Yes, my understanding is that this name change has been suggested, certainly not agreed upon.

Vivi0 · 30/11/2025 16:59

Jewishcraic · 30/11/2025 16:47

Nobody has changed the parks name, yet.

There was an online petition and several demonstrations asking to change the name to Hind Rajib Park.

The DCC meeting tomorrow is to decide what to call it, I think.

But guessing the backlash against this will change things a bit.

Ah, thanks for the clarification. Some people were posting as if it were a done deal.

Just had a Google. The petition to change it to Hind Rijab Park doesn’t seem to have much support - unsurprisingly.

There was also a suggestion to change it to Free Palestine Park.

It’s appalling the name of the park is to be changed, and deeply antisemitic, but if it must be changed, I do hope it is named something appropriate, with actual meaning to Dublin and the local community. People should not have such hardline views imposed on them in this way.

Jewishcraic · 30/11/2025 16:47

Nobody has changed the parks name, yet.

There was an online petition and several demonstrations asking to change the name to Hind Rajib Park.

The DCC meeting tomorrow is to decide what to call it, I think.

But guessing the backlash against this will change things a bit.

dairydebris · 30/11/2025 16:39

Westfacing · 30/11/2025 14:56

Herzog is not just a long-dead Jewish person though is he?

He left Ireland aged 18 and became Israel's president!

For some reason a park was named after him, and just as other 'great and the good' his history has been re-visited.

And what exactly about his history being revisited has caused you or others to believe that the park should no longer be named after him?

Or should parks no longer be named after Jews because of the current situation? Would you like all Jews to be cancelled? Or just this specific one?

Why?

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