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Is the renaming of Dublin’s Herzog Park antisemitic?

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OpheliaIsntMad · 30/11/2025 00:19

I think it is . Why make this decision at a time when anti semitism is increasing?

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OneGladPinkTraybake · 08/01/2026 10:25

SharonEllis · 08/01/2026 04:37

Yes, we see where you're coming from on this. So much for facts over feelings!

Wait, are you saying that you don't believe there is a genocide happening?

EmeraldShamrock000 · 08/01/2026 10:25

OpheliaIsntMad · 08/01/2026 10:19

@EmeraldShamrock000Can you answer the question from earlier?

You said ” I am not denying that there is antisemitism but I don’t think it is as prevalent as the media and a few government officials think.”

Have you gathered evidence on this ? Or are you just telling us what you “think” based on your “non-Jewish” experience?

https://www.irishtimes.com/ireland/social-affairs/2025/12/15/comprehensive-report-on-anti-semitic-incidents-in-ireland-being-prepared-by-jewish-body/
I have done and it’s terrible. I hope the doctor from Lebanon in the maternity hospital was sacked. If I see it I’ll be sure to call it out.
I am defending the Irish people not condemning the Jewish people and most Irish people are good who don’t tolerate racism or antisemitism. There is a lot of far right after everyone at the moment.

Chief Rabbi Yoni Wieder said he did not doubt the sincerity of those who protest against suffering in Gaza, but said anti-Israel sentiment has often spilled over into anti-Semitism. Photograph: Nick Bradshaw

Anti-Semitism report will detail ‘over 100 incidents of hatred’, chief rabbi says

Chief rabbi says ‘trend is clear’, though not every Jewish person in Ireland shares negative experience

https://www.irishtimes.com/ireland/social-affairs/2025/12/15/comprehensive-report-on-anti-semitic-incidents-in-ireland-being-prepared-by-jewish-body/

OneGladPinkTraybake · 08/01/2026 10:22

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Ok. You like hard evidence a lot. Let's have some hard evidence of those people celebrating.

Come on now. Hold yourself to the same standard that you are demanding of others.

OneGladPinkTraybake · 08/01/2026 10:21

SharonEllis · 08/01/2026 04:28

Its not hard evidence at all. Its an unsubstantiated slur obviously motivated by political malice.

It's census records and birth certificates!! Based on information that Rachel herself has repeatedly provided! How can you call that "not hard evidence"??

Kingscallops · 08/01/2026 10:21

OpheliaIsntMad · 08/01/2026 10:19

@EmeraldShamrock000Can you answer the question from earlier?

You said ” I am not denying that there is antisemitism but I don’t think it is as prevalent as the media and a few government officials think.”

Have you gathered evidence on this ? Or are you just telling us what you “think” based on your “non-Jewish” experience?

Jews are used to being told nothing to see here. It's the only form of racism that's acceptable.

EmeraldShamrock000 · 08/01/2026 10:20

dairydebris · 08/01/2026 10:14

On what basis are you claiming the rise in antisemitism is being blown out of proportion?

Jewish people have faced incidents in Ireland from a certain section of society, on a whole the Jewish community are respected and treated as neighbours like everyone else.
There are thugs who like to hurt minorities. They are not the majority.

He acknowledged that “anti-Semitism is not the experience of every Jewish person in Ireland ” and added that “incidents to date have been non-physical, and we are happy about that”.
“But the effects are very real,” he said. “particularly following attacks [on Jewish people] in New York, the killing of two Jewish people at a synagogue in Manchester last October, and now Sydney. Maybe it will not stay like that and no one can guarantee things will not turn violent here too”.

OpheliaIsntMad · 08/01/2026 10:19

@EmeraldShamrock000Can you answer the question from earlier?

You said ” I am not denying that there is antisemitism but I don’t think it is as prevalent as the media and a few government officials think.”

Have you gathered evidence on this ? Or are you just telling us what you “think” based on your “non-Jewish” experience?

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Kingscallops · 08/01/2026 10:19

dairydebris · 08/01/2026 10:14

On what basis are you claiming the rise in antisemitism is being blown out of proportion?

Yes I'm interested in your question as well.

dairydebris · 08/01/2026 10:14

EmeraldShamrock000 · 08/01/2026 10:12

The fact that (people in Ireland/ you) aren’t interested in the increase in antisemitism doesn’t mean it should be ignored and denied.
Who said that I wasn’t interested in the rise of antisemitism? I am claiming that it is being blown out of proportion, criticism of the actions of Israel in Gaza is not antisemitism.

^The fact that Muslims are also coming under attack doesn’t make the situation better…^ Indeed, the rise in racism is sickening.

^The fact that there is increasing evidence of hate attacks on Muslims should also be addressed.^
Of course everyone should feel safe, Jewish people, Muslim people, and immigrants, social media is the work of the devil, too many sheep spreading hate.

On what basis are you claiming the rise in antisemitism is being blown out of proportion?

EmeraldShamrock000 · 08/01/2026 10:12

The fact that (people in Ireland/ you) aren’t interested in the increase in antisemitism doesn’t mean it should be ignored and denied.
Who said that I wasn’t interested in the rise of antisemitism? I am claiming that it is being blown out of proportion, criticism of the actions of Israel in Gaza is not antisemitism.

^The fact that Muslims are also coming under attack doesn’t make the situation better…^ Indeed, the rise in racism is sickening.

^The fact that there is increasing evidence of hate attacks on Muslims should also be addressed.^
Of course everyone should feel safe, Jewish people, Muslim people, and immigrants, social media is the work of the devil, too many sheep spreading hate.

OpheliaIsntMad · 08/01/2026 10:07

OpheliaIsntMad · 08/01/2026 09:47

@EmeraldShamrock000
found the clip you asked for.
I think you should be careful about assuming that just because you haven’t seen something - it therefore hasn’t happened.

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OpheliaIsntMad · 08/01/2026 10:05

EmeraldShamrock000 · 08/01/2026 09:48

The fact that you were not aware that antisemitism is becoming a much bigger problem in Ireland shows that Moiselle’s campaign is important.
No it doesn’t, it means people are not interested.

Whatever you “opinion” the reality is that there is a much bigger Muslim community in Ireland. The Jewish community is much smaller and is facing increased abuse.
Oh I’m very much aware of that, as I said the large and expanding Muslim community in Ireland is the biggest bone of contention between the angry Irish, not hate towards the Jewish community, who are a minority.
I only know of one Jewish child, a young lad in my daughter’s class in an educate together school and he is her friend.
There is protests outside schools over the culture change in accommodations made for the Muslim community, nativity play, school lunch menu, etc.
i would feel unsafe as a Muslim in Ireland.

The fact that (people in Ireland/ you) aren’t interested in the increase in antisemitism doesn’t mean it should be ignored and denied.
The fact that Muslims are also coming under attack doesn’t make the situation better…
The fact that there is increasing evidence of hate attacks on Muslims should also be addressed.

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EmeraldShamrock000 · 08/01/2026 09:48

The fact that you were not aware that antisemitism is becoming a much bigger problem in Ireland shows that Moiselle’s campaign is important.
No it doesn’t, it means people are not interested.

Whatever you “opinion” the reality is that there is a much bigger Muslim community in Ireland. The Jewish community is much smaller and is facing increased abuse.
Oh I’m very much aware of that, as I said the large and expanding Muslim community in Ireland is the biggest bone of contention between the angry Irish, not hate towards the Jewish community, who are a minority.
I only know of one Jewish child, a young lad in my daughter’s class in an educate together school and he is her friend.
There is protests outside schools over the culture change in accommodations made for the Muslim community, nativity play, school lunch menu, etc.
i would feel unsafe as a Muslim in Ireland.

OpheliaIsntMad · 08/01/2026 09:47

EmeraldShamrock000 · 08/01/2026 09:39

Where will I find this uploaded footage. Something like that would usually be trending?
No need for the use of capital letters in your post.

https://m.youtube.com/shorts/Gw-vdw4JoPE

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OpheliaIsntMad · 08/01/2026 09:45

EmeraldShamrock000 · 08/01/2026 09:39

Where will I find this uploaded footage. Something like that would usually be trending?
No need for the use of capital letters in your post.

It was online. Probably taken down now. It happened in West London but if it happened here it can happen elsewhere.
You can find references to this online . You seem quite ill informed if you find it impossible to believe people were celebrating after the attack .

The capitals were for emphasis.

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OpheliaIsntMad · 08/01/2026 09:42

EmeraldShamrock000 · 08/01/2026 09:11

I wasn’t aware this was happening. In the wake of the attack on Bondi beach the Irish government ramped up security around the Jewish community.
In my opinion I think there is a much bigger anti Muslim movement in Ireland.
I agree that the a lot of Catholics in NI sympathise with Palestine, there is a low tolerance for the Palestine flag in Dublin. The same people shouting free Palestine are a lot of the same people who have a fit when Palestine people are resettled here, especially for Northern Ireland, they hate foreigners, never mind brown foreigners.
The government has spoken out against the deaths in Palestine and rightly so ATT.
There has to be certain rules in war.
I am denying that there is antisemitism but I don’t think it is as prevalent as the media and a few government officials think.
Most people would prefer the government focus on the absolute shit that is happening in Ireland.

I wasn’t aware this was happening. In the wake of the attack on Bondi beach the Irish government ramped up security around the Jewish community.
In my opinion I think there is a much bigger anti Muslim movement in Ireland.
The fact that you were not aware that antisemitism is becoming a much bigger problem in Ireland shows that Moiselle’s campaign is important. Whatever you “opinion” the reality is that there is a much bigger Muslim community in Ireland. The Jewish community is much smaller and is facing increased abuse.

The government has spoken out against the deaths in Palestine and rightly so ATT.
Why are you conflating deaths in Palestine with Moiselle’s campaign against antisemitism ?

I am denying that there is antisemitism but I don’t think it is as prevalent as the media and a few government officials think.
Have you gathered evidence and done some research on this ? Or are you just telling us what you “think” based on your “non-Jewish” experience?

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EmeraldShamrock000 · 08/01/2026 09:39

OpheliaIsntMad · 08/01/2026 09:33

I don’t KNOW one person who celebrated either.
But I KNOW people did because they filmed it and put it in social media.
Just because you haven’t experienced something doesn’t mean it hasnt happened.

Where will I find this uploaded footage. Something like that would usually be trending?
No need for the use of capital letters in your post.

OpheliaIsntMad · 08/01/2026 09:33

EmeraldShamrock000 · 08/01/2026 09:17

That is where I see a murky edge to Rachel's articles.As I previously posted, she has outright lied in her content, such as claiming that Irish people were out celebrating in the street on Oct 7th.
No never. I’m absolutely shocked, I don’t know one person who thought that October the 7th was acceptable, not one.
There was outrage at the retaliation but it was well after Oct 7th, it was during the carpet bombing of Gaza as innocent people (children) were dying.

I don’t KNOW one person who celebrated either.
But I KNOW people did because they filmed it and put it in social media.
Just because you haven’t experienced something doesn’t mean it hasnt happened.

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OpheliaIsntMad · 08/01/2026 09:31

OneGladPinkTraybake · 07/01/2026 23:57

We're kind of talking about two different things here.

I agree with you. It's extremely important to stamp out racism with prejudice. No acceptance of it whatsoever. The racists think that people are on their sides and they've become more vocal. The antidote is loudly showing them that we are not.

HOWEVER... Rachel peddles lies. She's on the level of Gript. But she's gotten into this position of prominence, in no small part due to being supported by Israeli media. The same Israeli media who also regularly peddle horrendous lies. That's what I have an issue with.

There is a genocide occuring in Gaza. There is also a propaganda war occurring to obfuscate that AND discredit people who stand against it. That cannot be disputed - look at the treatment of Francesca Albanese and the people on the boats who tried to breach the naval barricade, to name just two examples of many.

That is where I see a murky edge to Rachel's articles.As I previously posted, she has outright lied in her content, such as claiming that Irish people were out celebrating in the street on Oct 7th.

Anti-Semitism is wrong and unacceptable. I will not stand for it. But I also cannot stand for someone with a platform pushing outright lies about Ireland and the Irish people.

“HOWEVER... Rachel peddles lies. She's on the level of Gript. But she's gotten into this position of prominence, in no small part due to being supported by Israeli media. The same Israeli media who also regularly peddle horrendous lies. That's what I have an issue with.”

She “peddles lies” because she is “supported by Israeli media” ..? You have provided no evidence to support this claim . Your objection to Rachel appears to be rooted in your antipathy to anyone with a supposed connection to Israel. You haven’t provided any evidence that she is lying about antisemitism in Ireland but you still want to discredit her simply because of a supposed connection to Israel.

“There is a genocide occuring in Gaza. There is also a propaganda war occurring to obfuscate that AND discredit people who stand against it. “

And there we have it … you are conflating Moiselle’s attempts to combat antisemitism in Ireland with a “propaganda war” to obfuscate the truth about Gaza. Moiselle’s focus is Irish antisemitism- NOT Gaza - but you are trying to discredit her anyway.

.As I previously posted, she has outright lied in her content, such as claiming that Irish people were out celebrating in the street on Oct 7th.
Anti-Semitism is wrong and unacceptable. I will not stand for it. But I also cannot stand for someone with a platform pushing outright lies about Ireland and the Irish people.”

Where I live in London people were out celebrating October 7th. I don’t find it impossible to believe that this also happened in Ireland bearing in mind some of the graffiti/ incidents that have since been reported. I would like you to provide evidence of any “outright lies about Ireland and the Irish people”

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EmeraldShamrock000 · 08/01/2026 09:17

That is where I see a murky edge to Rachel's articles.As I previously posted, she has outright lied in her content, such as claiming that Irish people were out celebrating in the street on Oct 7th.
No never. I’m absolutely shocked, I don’t know one person who thought that October the 7th was acceptable, not one.
There was outrage at the retaliation but it was well after Oct 7th, it was during the carpet bombing of Gaza as innocent people (children) were dying.

EmeraldShamrock000 · 08/01/2026 09:11

SharonEllis · 07/01/2026 21:37

Im personally far, far more concerned about the rise of antisemitism in Ireland than one person who has, by any measure made a useful contribution to the debate and exposed a lot of the nature of antisemitism along the way.

I wasn’t aware this was happening. In the wake of the attack on Bondi beach the Irish government ramped up security around the Jewish community.
In my opinion I think there is a much bigger anti Muslim movement in Ireland.
I agree that the a lot of Catholics in NI sympathise with Palestine, there is a low tolerance for the Palestine flag in Dublin. The same people shouting free Palestine are a lot of the same people who have a fit when Palestine people are resettled here, especially for Northern Ireland, they hate foreigners, never mind brown foreigners.
The government has spoken out against the deaths in Palestine and rightly so ATT.
There has to be certain rules in war.
I am denying that there is antisemitism but I don’t think it is as prevalent as the media and a few government officials think.
Most people would prefer the government focus on the absolute shit that is happening in Ireland.

SharonEllis · 08/01/2026 04:43

SharonEllis · 07/01/2026 22:13

Bu the way still waiting for the details on this murky Israeli government trip @OneGladPinkTraybake

Still waiting.

SharonEllis · 08/01/2026 04:42

But she's gotten into this position of prominence, in no small part due to being supported by Israeli media.
How exactly does 'Israeli media' (independent, and much of it critical of the Netanyahu government) help Rachel get an article published in the Irish Times? @OneGladPinkTraybake

SharonEllis · 08/01/2026 04:37

OneGladPinkTraybake · 07/01/2026 23:27

Simple answer - massively yes, especially when a genocide is currently underway in that country!

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Yes, we see where you're coming from on this. So much for facts over feelings!

SharonEllis · 08/01/2026 04:32

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