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Is the renaming of Dublin’s Herzog Park antisemitic?

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OpheliaIsntMad · 30/11/2025 00:19

I think it is . Why make this decision at a time when anti semitism is increasing?

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OneGladPinkTraybake · 08/01/2026 13:17

Kingscallops · 08/01/2026 13:15

So in other words, tone deaf.

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Yes, as I said. Did you miss me saying that? I also condemned the tweets.

OneGladPinkTraybake · 08/01/2026 13:16

DaisyDenise · 08/01/2026 13:14

Your basing a lot on one person though (who later apologised I think you said? I might have that wrong.)

I’m in Ireland and didn’t hear Hamas PR.
I know I’m just another person but my experience to the news of Oct 7th was one of absolute shock and horror. Everywhere I looked here that is what I saw.

I think a lot of the comments on this page are from people outside Ireland and they are often relying on what they’ve read. I am relying on what I’ve seen and how I feel and what people around me say as well as what I’ve read and it gives a different perspective.

I do think we’re being judged harshly on the world stage and I think that is deliberate distraction to an extent (not by Rachel Moiselle to be clear).

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I'm based in Ireland too. There have been posts from people including the OP using examples from England and proposing to transpose them to Ireland.

Kingscallops · 08/01/2026 13:15

OneGladPinkTraybake · 08/01/2026 13:12

Two tweets. One professor. One student. Neither celebrating. Both supporting Palestinian self-determination at an absolutely appalingly timed moment.

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So in other words, tone deaf.

DaisyDenise · 08/01/2026 13:14

HappyFace2025 · 08/01/2026 12:58

That may well be the case but I can only go by DDs experience when her Irish bestie used the word genocide in her first message after 7 October, literally the day after the atrocity in Israel. This Irish person is a well known feminist author who DD studied with at TCD. It is not Sally Rooney but another well established writer. Hamas PR was alive and well from 7 October onwards. We were amazed that her (ex) bestie had fallen for it.

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Your basing a lot on one person though (who later apologised I think you said? I might have that wrong.)

I’m in Ireland and didn’t hear Hamas PR.
I know I’m just another person but my experience to the news of Oct 7th was one of absolute shock and horror. Everywhere I looked here that is what I saw.

I think a lot of the comments on this page are from people outside Ireland and they are often relying on what they’ve read. I am relying on what I’ve seen and how I feel and what people around me say as well as what I’ve read and it gives a different perspective.

I do think we’re being judged harshly on the world stage and I think that is deliberate distraction to an extent (not by Rachel Moiselle to be clear).

OneGladPinkTraybake · 08/01/2026 13:12

Kingscallops · 08/01/2026 13:11

Exactly.

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Two tweets. One professor. One student. Neither celebrating. Both supporting Palestinian self-determination at an absolutely appalingly timed moment.

Kingscallops · 08/01/2026 13:11

OpheliaIsntMad · 08/01/2026 12:41

You said that Rachel Moiselle was lying when she said people celebrating October 7th in Ireland. You asked for evidence that this was true.
Then ( ironically) you provided a link to the article she wrote which referenced several tweets from Trinity professors and students celebrating October 7th .
Im not sure you read the article properly.

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Exactly.

OneGladPinkTraybake · 08/01/2026 13:09

OpheliaIsntMad · 08/01/2026 13:08

Where does Moiselle imply that Irish people “as a whole” celebrated October 7th?
Evidence please

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The article that people have quoted multiple times and that we're talking about right now. Come on.

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OpheliaIsntMad · 08/01/2026 13:08

OneGladPinkTraybake · 08/01/2026 13:05

But people have said a few times to you now that Irish people as a whole celebrating is EXACTLY what was implied.

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Where does Moiselle imply that Irish people “as a whole” celebrated October 7th?
Evidence please

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OneGladPinkTraybake · 08/01/2026 13:05

OpheliaIsntMad · 08/01/2026 13:04

No one has claimed Irish people as a whole celebrated.

Posters on here have denied there was any celebration by anyone at all ( they even accused Moiselle of lying about it )

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But people have said a few times to you now that Irish people as a whole celebrating is EXACTLY what was implied.

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OpheliaIsntMad · 08/01/2026 13:04

DaisyDenise · 08/01/2026 12:49

@OpheliaIsntMad I think the impression is too often given that Irish people as a whole celebrated or made excuses. This was certainly not true. Ireland was appalled by Oct 7th.

No one has claimed Irish people as a whole celebrated.

Posters on here have denied there was any celebration by anyone at all ( they even accused Moiselle of lying about it )

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OneGladPinkTraybake · 08/01/2026 12:59

DaisyDenise · 08/01/2026 12:54

Tone-deaf is being too kind I think.

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Yes. I totally condemn those tweets tbh.

HappyFace2025 · 08/01/2026 12:58

DaisyDenise · 08/01/2026 12:49

@OpheliaIsntMad I think the impression is too often given that Irish people as a whole celebrated or made excuses. This was certainly not true. Ireland was appalled by Oct 7th.

That may well be the case but I can only go by DDs experience when her Irish bestie used the word genocide in her first message after 7 October, literally the day after the atrocity in Israel. This Irish person is a well known feminist author who DD studied with at TCD. It is not Sally Rooney but another well established writer. Hamas PR was alive and well from 7 October onwards. We were amazed that her (ex) bestie had fallen for it.

DaisyDenise · 08/01/2026 12:54

OneGladPinkTraybake · 08/01/2026 12:45

The tweets were I referred to were not celebrating at all! They were voicing support for Palestinian self-determination, and I called them tone-deaf.

And the one that Rachel quoted as actually using celebratory language, I couldn't find. If you can find ones that actually celebrate, please post them.

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Tone-deaf is being too kind I think.

EmeraldShamrock000 · 08/01/2026 12:51

dairydebris · 08/01/2026 12:17

What bit are you struggling with?

At a very basic level, if all human lives are equal, which is obviously a lot worse; 6,500,000 lives lost or 72,000 lives lost?

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I find it odd that anyone can take these atrocities and not consider all the deaths absolutely horrific.

DaisyDenise · 08/01/2026 12:49

@OpheliaIsntMad I think the impression is too often given that Irish people as a whole celebrated or made excuses. This was certainly not true. Ireland was appalled by Oct 7th.

Ikeasucks · 08/01/2026 12:47

OneGladPinkTraybake · 08/01/2026 11:31

Yes, she is. This was a response to someone about there being no genocide, not related to Rachel.

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Calling the awful conflict between Israel and Gaza a genocide is just your personal opinion - not proven fact

OneGladPinkTraybake · 08/01/2026 12:45

OpheliaIsntMad · 08/01/2026 12:41

You said that Rachel Moiselle was lying when she said people celebrating October 7th in Ireland. You asked for evidence that this was true.
Then ( ironically) you provided a link to the article she wrote which referenced several tweets from Trinity professors and students celebrating October 7th .
Im not sure you read the article properly.

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The tweets were I referred to were not celebrating at all! They were voicing support for Palestinian self-determination, and I called them tone-deaf.

And the one that Rachel quoted as actually using celebratory language, I couldn't find. If you can find ones that actually celebrate, please post them.

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OpheliaIsntMad · 08/01/2026 12:41

OneGladPinkTraybake · 08/01/2026 11:41

Lollllllll. Oh come on. Now you're transparently trolling.

The OP said themselves that they said the wrong one! They meant the first, not the last.

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You said that Rachel Moiselle was lying when she said people celebrating October 7th in Ireland. You asked for evidence that this was true.
Then ( ironically) you provided a link to the article she wrote which referenced several tweets from Trinity professors and students celebrating October 7th .
Im not sure you read the article properly.

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dairydebris · 08/01/2026 12:41

bigboykitty · 08/01/2026 12:40

Have you no shame. As if 'calling me out' warrants what you said. I have nothing more to say to you. I'm surprised Mumsnet allows this.

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🙄

bigboykitty · 08/01/2026 12:40

HappyFace2025 · 08/01/2026 12:26

I agree but when a poster uses the Holocaust to support her theories she needs to be called out.

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Have you no shame. As if 'calling me out' warrants what you said. I have nothing more to say to you. I'm surprised Mumsnet allows this.

dairydebris · 08/01/2026 12:28

DaisyDenise · 08/01/2026 12:22

Please stop with the atrocity leagues. It’s horrible.

Yes, sorry, I totally agree about atrocity leagues. It was the other poster that directly compared those who question whether Gaza is a genocide and Holocaust deniers though- I do believe that should be challenged- strongly.

HappyFace2025 · 08/01/2026 12:26

DaisyDenise · 08/01/2026 12:22

Please stop with the atrocity leagues. It’s horrible.

I agree but when a poster uses the Holocaust to support her theories she needs to be called out.

HappyFace2025 · 08/01/2026 12:24

bigboykitty · 08/01/2026 12:03

Wow! Did you mean to say that out loud?

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Yes.

DaisyDenise · 08/01/2026 12:22

Please stop with the atrocity leagues. It’s horrible.

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