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Is the renaming of Dublin’s Herzog Park antisemitic?

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OpheliaIsntMad · 30/11/2025 00:19

I think it is . Why make this decision at a time when anti semitism is increasing?

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DaisyDenise · 08/01/2026 17:17

OpheliaIsntMad · 08/01/2026 15:34

Exactly!
Unfortunately some people regard their own views as facts and other people’s as lies …

I don’t think Rachel is peddling lies. I do think she doesn’t write carefully enough to avoid misrepresentation sometimes, particularly if the reader is outside Ireland and can’t see the situation for themselves first hand.

For example, I thought from her newspaper articles that she was Jewish and was speaking as a member of that community.

If I didn’t live here I would have thought the Irish nation celebrated Oct 7th (from her article with Jonny Gould quoted upthread). That was most certainly not the case, if anyone is still in any doubt.

She has written recently about 7 out of 10 surveyed Irish people not believing Ireland has a problem with anti-semitism (while 2 out of 10 do). She frames this as people deliberately not listening to the Jewish community or not even being aware of their own antisemitism.

I believe Ireland does have a problem, but I follow the topic. I have read her newspaper articles. An alternative explanation for the survey results is that most Irish people are speaking from their hearts, they know they are not anti-semitic and that their friends aren’t and haven’t personally seen any evidence of it, so are unaware. The Jewish population in Ireland is very small and many/most people won’t know any of them.

Ignorance is not okay either obviously, but is a quite different thing from ‘the perception of Jews as being morally alien’ as Rachel puts it, or a society deliberately turning its back on its Jewish citizens.

It is very disheartening to hear your country repeatedly being branded as anti-semitic when you know in your heart most Irish people don’t feel that way. (There are always a few very unfortunately.) I don’t think it’s helpful for the Jewish community here either, who may get the impression that most of the population is against them. Seven out of ten people say there isn’t anti-semitism in Ireland because they know what’s in their own hearts and it’s not a rejection of our Jewish community.

LeftieRightsHoarder · 08/01/2026 16:06

Is the renaming of Dublin’s Herzog Park antisemitic?

Obviously yes! as this prominent Irish man is being demoted for no reason other than being Jewish and believing Jews had the right to a state. The right to their own state was hard to dispute after Germany made a very serious and almost successful attempt to wipe them all out.

OpheliaIsntMad · 08/01/2026 15:34

Kingscallops · 08/01/2026 15:33

She hasn't peddled lies has she? She is just posting from her experience x

Exactly!
Unfortunately some people regard their own views as facts and other people’s as lies …

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OpheliaIsntMad · 08/01/2026 15:27

You were the one who made the claims that Moiselle was “peddling lies” and you resurrected this thread to make that point.
It is up to YOU to provide evidence to support that claim .

She hasn't peddled lies has she? She is just posting from her experience x

OpheliaIsntMad · 08/01/2026 15:32

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OneGladPinkTraybake · 08/01/2026 15:29

OpheliaIsntMad · 08/01/2026 15:27

You were the one who made the claims that Moiselle was “peddling lies” and you resurrected this thread to make that point.
It is up to YOU to provide evidence to support that claim .

And I did!! Loads of it. And not one other person in this discussion has provided a single bit.

OpheliaIsntMad · 08/01/2026 15:27

OneGladPinkTraybake · 08/01/2026 15:21

What evidence have you provided?

You were the one who made the claims that Moiselle was “peddling lies” and you resurrected this thread to make that point.
It is up to YOU to provide evidence to support that claim .

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OneGladPinkTraybake · 08/01/2026 15:25

OpheliaIsntMad · 08/01/2026 15:24

Yes . He/she is not posting in good faith so it’s all pretty pointless.
Anyone with a brain can see what that poster has been up to since they resurrected this thread.
There is no point engaging.

This is all because you can't actually back up anything you say. You're trying to deflect fully away from the actual discussion.

OneGladPinkTraybake · 08/01/2026 15:25

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OpheliaIsntMad · 08/01/2026 15:24

Kingscallops · 08/01/2026 15:22

She's just deliberately tried to derail the thread.

Yes . He/she is not posting in good faith so it’s all pretty pointless.
Anyone with a brain can see what that poster has been up to since they resurrected this thread.
There is no point engaging.

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OneGladPinkTraybake · 08/01/2026 15:24

OpheliaIsntMad · 08/01/2026 15:22

RTFT for your evidence.
Its all there ..

What? Read 20 pages to pick out what exactly? How will that help me to see the evidence that you have provided for our current discussion?

Kingscallops · 08/01/2026 15:22

OpheliaIsntMad · 08/01/2026 15:21

Not sure what I can say anymore faced with this kind of twaddle 🤪

She's just deliberately tried to derail the thread.

OpheliaIsntMad · 08/01/2026 15:22

OneGladPinkTraybake · 08/01/2026 15:21

Deflection because you have zero evidence.

RTFT for your evidence.
Its all there ..

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OneGladPinkTraybake · 08/01/2026 15:21

OpheliaIsntMad · 08/01/2026 15:21

Not sure what I can say anymore faced with this kind of twaddle 🤪

Deflection because you have zero evidence.

OpheliaIsntMad · 08/01/2026 15:21

Not sure what I can say anymore faced with this kind of twaddle 🤪

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OneGladPinkTraybake · 08/01/2026 15:21

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OneGladPinkTraybake · 08/01/2026 15:21

OpheliaIsntMad · 08/01/2026 15:20

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What evidence have you provided?

Kingscallops · 08/01/2026 15:20

OneGladPinkTraybake · 08/01/2026 15:19

What does that even mean?

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OpheliaIsntMad · 08/01/2026 15:20

OneGladPinkTraybake · 08/01/2026 15:17

It's also hilarious to me that people are saying I haven't provided evidence or demanding I provide more when I am literally and visibly the only person here who provides evidence.

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OneGladPinkTraybake · 08/01/2026 15:19

Kingscallops · 08/01/2026 15:18

Against rules to troll hunt.

What does that even mean?

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Against rules to troll hunt.

OneGladPinkTraybake · 08/01/2026 15:17

It's also hilarious to me that people are saying I haven't provided evidence or demanding I provide more when I am literally and visibly the only person here who provides evidence.

OneGladPinkTraybake · 08/01/2026 15:16

OpheliaIsntMad · 08/01/2026 14:06

You originally resurrected this thread to discredit Rachel Moiselle as she is not ( fully?) Jewish and you therefore suggested that she is not honest.

Then you moved on to claiming that she “peddles lies” about the situation in Ireland and her motives are “murky” .

You keep linking Moiselle to Gaza - as if talking about antisemitism in Ireland is Israeli propaganda. The truth is that all agencies / researchers agree that antisemitism has increased exponentially in Europe . To draw attention to it is not Israeli propaganda. It’s shameful to conflate the two in the way you have .

Moiselle is entitled to share her opinion and experiences and you have not provided any proof that her statements about antisemitism in Ireland are false.

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This is a massive exercise in conflation. You've taken various things I've said and conflated them into your own timeline and version of events. That is not how it played out at all. Stop reinventing reality.

Do you want me to forensically break down everything that is wrong in your post? Do we need to actually do that? Will that contribute ANYTHING to the discussion or just derail it even further.

OneGladPinkTraybake · 08/01/2026 15:14

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OneGladPinkTraybake · 08/01/2026 15:13

SharonEllis · 08/01/2026 15:05

No, you prove to me that what Rachel said is wrong.

Lol. So you have none then.

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