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Brother-in-Law’s new baby

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ThatRubyMoose · 29/11/2025 12:42

My eldest daughter (my husband’s stepdaughter)has a party this afternoon and husband has just announced that while we are at the party he and youngest are going round to his brother’s to meet the new baby.

His sisters will both be there but not with their husbands (but with a takeaway).

Photos will be taken for MiL’s Christmas card.

I am so upset that he doesn’t understand why I want to meet the baby and that yet again my eldest will be excluded.

He, once again has no empathy. Because his sisters’ husbands aren’t there he can’t understand why I am upset.

I am jealous! Have I a right to be.

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InterIgnis · 30/11/2025 19:54

You’ve joined a family that doesn’t share your hang ups when it comes to acknowledging half siblings, and that freely uses the term. You’re not going to be able to prevent either of your children being exposed to it. Your reality may not be your ideal one, but it is nonetheless your reality. You’re not going to be able to change it into the one you wish you had, and you’d be best served coming to terms with that fact.

That your daughters are half siblings doesn’t make their relationship somehow lesser, and it isn’t some shameful thing that must be hidden. By being sensitive and giving it negative connotations you run the risk of passing that complex onto your eldest, which is something that’s unlikely to be helpful to her. It’s not like she doesn’t know that she and her sister don’t share the same parents and paternal family. She does. So don’t teach her that it’s a source of shame.

TheOchreRaven · 30/11/2025 19:37

I’d image you’re upset because your DH doesn’t step up to his family. He could say to his family that his step-daughter is as his own to him and he would be in the photos with both daughters or no photo at all. But he doesn’t, that’s the way he feels and he won’t change and it’s up to you to accept this or be always upset about it

Gentlydoesit2 · 30/11/2025 19:07

ThatRubyMoose · 29/11/2025 13:01

All the children will be there.

Baby is a week and a half.

Husbands Brothers-in-Law would have been invited but wouldn’t be interested.

We would have been treated politely but eldest would have been manoeuvred out of grandchildren photos.

This is a secret from Mother-in-law as well and I don’t like my youngest being asked to keep even innocent secrets.

He sees no reason for me to be upset at missing an opportunity to meet a baby.

Are you upset about not meeting the baby or your daughter being excluded?!

mumofoneAloneandwell · 30/11/2025 18:56

Minjou · 30/11/2025 18:46

She isn't actually related to their family. And they DO include her, just not the level OP demands.

@mumsnet have told me to be nicer with my posts so I will just have to offer you support for your terrible views 💐💐💐

Minjou · 30/11/2025 18:46

mumofoneAloneandwell · 30/11/2025 15:51

Because theyre repeatedly leaving her daughter out of their family

She isn't actually related to their family. And they DO include her, just not the level OP demands.

Pipsquiggle · 30/11/2025 18:14

@ThatRubyMoose why do you not like the term 'half-sister'?

HeadyLamarr · 30/11/2025 17:22

By turning up you're just trying to create drama. Again.

You are the only one with a problem with this. They do not and will not see your older daughter as part of their family. There is nothing you can do about this. Accept it and move on.

Or go nuclear and bust up your family over it.

Londonrach1 · 30/11/2025 15:55

It's not a secret it's a surprise for mil. Tbh sounds like a fair plan. Meet the baby another time when your eldest hasn't a party. Sorry I don't see anything wrong with what your dh is doing

mumofoneAloneandwell · 30/11/2025 15:51

ThisLittlePony · 30/11/2025 15:41

So leave her dh, break up the family, see youngest only 50:50 now because unrelated step family aren’t doing what op wants?

Because theyre repeatedly leaving her daughter out of their family

ThisLittlePony · 30/11/2025 15:41

mumofoneAloneandwell · 29/11/2025 18:06

I cant be spending my evening arguing with people who think excluding a girl and her mum from family photos as she isnt biologically related, despite being raised alongside her younger siblings is fine and dandy 🙄🙄🙄

Yabu

Op, stand up and leave this shithead of a man. Choose your daughter and show her that noone has any business excluding her. I said this on your last thread. 🙄🙄

So leave her dh, break up the family, see youngest only 50:50 now because unrelated step family aren’t doing what op wants?

BettysRoasties · 30/11/2025 15:16

You’re the only het up about the half sibling thing. The girls had no problem with it.

Your issues are yours surrounding a perfectly normal term. If you didn’t want half sibling children you shouldn’t have created a family that has them.

Namechangetry · 30/11/2025 15:14

Why did you turn up OP? Were you looking for an argument? It doesn't 'induce ire' I just can't see why you'd do it other than to start a row or to feed your own grievance about this. There was no reason for you to go other than to cause drama.

Minjou · 30/11/2025 14:13

What are you so confused about? There's a difference between being excluded and not being included.
It's a picture of mils grandchildren. She isn't mils grandchild. Do you not follow?

nomas · 30/11/2025 14:09

Minjou · 30/11/2025 14:08

Only to each other. Older isn't related to her half sisters family

But she is blood of her sister. Why should she be excluded?

Minjou · 30/11/2025 14:08

nomas · 30/11/2025 14:04

OP’s two children are blood relatives though. Why should her elder dd be excluded?

Only to each other. Older isn't related to her half sisters family

Minjou · 30/11/2025 14:07

OP your kids should know what a half sister is when they have one. You're not doing them any favours here

nomas · 30/11/2025 14:04

Ponoka7 · 30/11/2025 10:26

But people cheat, abuse etc and then you end up with photos you can't put on display, because we don't cut off blood relatives for doing so, but wouldn't upset our child by having a picture of their ex, as numerous threads on here show. I've treated children who've come into the family like grandchildren, to never see them again when their Mothers have moved on. I don't want reminding via photos.

OP’s two children are blood relatives though. Why should her elder dd be excluded?

ThatRubyMoose · 30/11/2025 14:00

I am being accused of banging on. I have posted about my daughter being excluded twice before. Is there a limit that someone can post about the same issue? No one told me.

Well I turned up at the house after the party to find my own daughter there with BiL’s partner and one SiL and a couple of the other kids. I know my turning up will induce ire on here but I don’t care.

The partner of one of the sisters had dropped in and now the men and a couple of kids had joined him in the local.

The invitation was for everyone but only blood relatives were in photos but a photo of one sister, husband and their kids had been taken and a lovely one of my DH and younger daughter. The other brother-in-law didn’t come.

It was cosy and they were polite to both of us. I rang husband to say I would take youngest so he didn’t have to come back.

I have never ever thought that they deliberately do things to be cruel and my husband is wonderful to my daughter but he looks at me as if I have grown two heads when I am upset by this.

My daughter has no idea how I feel.

Had I been there and suggested my eldest was in that photo both sisters-in-law would have objected probably by taking one then asking her to step out.

Both of my children know that they have different fathers. I am not living in a fantasy land.

Eighteen months ago we all dropped in on our way home unexpectedly as DH wanted to get back something his brother had borrowed for a holiday.

There was a young woman there in her second year of university and SiL introduced her as her half-sister name, my eldest asked what a half sister was, She had never heard the relationship before.

They clearly have no issue with that term whereas I am sensitive about it.

For about three months both of mine used it even introducing each other to play dates and their mothers. DH begged me not to make a thing of it and they stopped naturally.

I don’t think I am of a sensitive disposition per se and I have never suggested that in-laws are rude they are quite the opposite but I would embrace small children and treat her like a grandchild.

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Ponoka7 · 30/11/2025 10:26

Llamallamafruitpyjama · 29/11/2025 13:35

This blood relative shite is so weird! It’s unbelievable some families operate like this really.

But people cheat, abuse etc and then you end up with photos you can't put on display, because we don't cut off blood relatives for doing so, but wouldn't upset our child by having a picture of their ex, as numerous threads on here show. I've treated children who've come into the family like grandchildren, to never see them again when their Mothers have moved on. I don't want reminding via photos.

BlueSlate · 30/11/2025 08:32

ReadingTime · 29/11/2025 19:06

Sadly based on previous threads, that’s exactly what’s happened.

This situation sounds like a horrendous combination of unkind, thoughtless stubborn in laws and a self absorbed mum who is completely stuck in casting herself and her daughter as victims, instead of coming to terms with and managing this difficult situation as gracefully as possible for her daughters sake.

She posts multiple threads where she’s upset about the latest thing they’ve done that excludes her and her daughter, and ignores all the advice anyone offers. It’s really sad. The in-laws aren’t very nice, but the older girl would be fine if her mum handled it better.

Is this the poster who also posted about the husband's family taking a theatre trip and going out for meals without her eldest daughter?

If so, tbh, I completely agree with you.

The wider family are being unnecessarily thoughtless about it but the OP has become so obsessed with every little thing her husband's family does/arranges that I don't think she has a handle on what is fair or reasonable anymore.

And, asuch as anything, everyone says the same on every thread and the OP does nothing to change it.

PollyBell · 30/11/2025 08:31

InterIgnis · 29/11/2025 20:03

Their position really isn’t extreme at all, or one that has ever changed. Even OP has said that they treat her daughter kindly, they just don’t consider her a grandchild because she isn’t one. Her own husband doesn’t consider her eldest his daughter, either.

That OP’s husband and her eldest don’t have a father and daughter relationship is apparently fine though, it’s just her in laws that she wants to hold to a completely different standard.

I would say this sums it up

DonicaLewinsky · 30/11/2025 08:20

InterIgnis · 29/11/2025 20:58

I did. IIRC the cousins, who also had step and half siblings, didn’t take the piss, they were just confused as to what OP’s problem was with acknowledging the different family relationships.

It isn’t up to the in laws to find a ‘middle ground’, it’s on her to come to terms with the decisions she freely made. They were very clear regarding their stance from the beginning, same as her husband was. She could have walked away then, but instead she chose to accept it. She doesn’t now get to demand that the entire family change to suit her.

You're thinking of a different anecdote on the same thread. The one I'm talking about here didn't involve OP saying anything at all.

But yes, ultimately the only people who actually had any choice about creating this situation are OP and DH, neither of whom had any reason to believe DD1 would be treated the same as any other children, and DH doesn't appear unduly concerned. As OP has been told a lot of times now, either this is a deal breaker for you or it isn't. For as long as it isn't, the only agency she has here is whether to give her eldest a complex about it or not. The family that she married into are what they always were, and made no secret of.

BillyBites · 29/11/2025 21:16

How many people could put their hand on their heart and say that they feel exactly the same way about their step-child as they do their own biological child?
I suspect (hope?) very few, if any. So why is it so unreasonable for grandparents (who had no say in who their child married first or second time around) to feel that their biological grandchildren are special? And want some pictures of their biological descendants?
Of COURSE, no one would expect step-children to be treated unkindly and at birthdays/Christmas should be included in gift-giving etc..
But I don't think it's unreasonable for inheritance and (some, not all) photos to be for "blood" family.

InterIgnis · 29/11/2025 20:58

DonicaLewinsky · 29/11/2025 20:24

You have to read the previous threads, some of the details there are quite odd and stuck in my memory. Someone got the piss ripped for saying granny to the wrong person. Then you have OP who can't accept them making any distinction between DD1 and DD2 at all. These are not attitudes that are conducive to finding a middle ground.

I agree about the in laws vs DD bio family double standard. OP would do well to save more of her ire for DD1s paternal side.

I did. IIRC the cousins, who also had step and half siblings, didn’t take the piss, they were just confused as to what OP’s problem was with acknowledging the different family relationships.

It isn’t up to the in laws to find a ‘middle ground’, it’s on her to come to terms with the decisions she freely made. They were very clear regarding their stance from the beginning, same as her husband was. She could have walked away then, but instead she chose to accept it. She doesn’t now get to demand that the entire family change to suit her.

Whereismyfleeceblanket · 29/11/2025 20:31

Wow. When sil and I got the dc together for a surprise pic for ils my dd was on it.
Bloody nasty not to imo.