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Is it reasonable to be expected to let stepkids in bed with you?

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BecauseIWantTo · 29/11/2025 07:46

My best friend just turned up at my house because she didn’t want to share a bed with kids that aren’t her own.

She has been with her fiancé for 4 years, she met his kids after a year, he moved in with her in July this year when they got engaged and he has his kids 50/50.

My BF has older children who live with her full time so her kids are two DD both 14 and 16 with their own rooms.

Her “step kids” (using this term for the thread but she says bonus kids) are DD 6 and DS 11.
They share a large room but it’s been cleverly partitioned as there is no way they can afford anywhere else.

My BF is ready to call off the engagement because despite the kids having their own space and beds that she spent a fortune decorating and making perfect for them they insist getting in bed with her and her partner.

She has just properly broken down saying her sleep is disturbed, the youngest still wears pull ups to bed, they come in and wriggle and chat, there is no room and on one occasion her DSS had got into bed between her and her DP and she rolled over to hug her DP and got a shock.
She said it’s completely inappropriate and as she’s 29 (8 years younger than her partner) she has questioned her SS’s motives for getting in bed with her.
My BF said her DSS is constantly bursting in on her getting changed but her DP says he’s young and nowhere near puberty so this wouldn’t be intentional.
She has insisted on him knocking when she’s in the bedroom but has resorted to having to put a bit of wood under the door as he “forgets”.

My mum is staying with me and implied my friend was some kind of wicked stepmother for hating this and said the kids are obviously seeking comfort and if she is unhappy to sleep on the sofa but not to do anything to threaten the bond with her DP and his kids.

My BF said she hates the idea of her kids getting into bed with an unrelated adult and thinks they are old enough to sleep in their own bed. Her DP said his DD occasionally co sleeps at their mums but they are both happy to sleep alone mostly.

I have no children and the thought of sleeping with older kids (especially an 11yo boy) is creepy as fuck and wouldn’t entertain the idea.
I haven’t outright said this as being childfree I’m not sure I have an unbiased view.

I suggested my BF post on here but she said she can’t face negative comments and to be ripped apart again so requested I post and read her some replies that won’t upset her.
She’s more then happy to hear a different opinion from hers but is just fragile - especially from lack of sleep.
I have name changed and changed a few details for privacy but have been here for years. I do know mumsnet can be hard on step parents so understand her hesitation to post herself!

My BF’s partner insists the kids stay in the bed if they get in. He said they obviously feel insecure and need comfort and he shuts the conversation down when my BF tries to discuss it.

It’s sometimes one kid and sometimes both but at different times. He sleeps through but my BF is often woken twice through the night.
It’s a standard double and really isn’t big enough for 4 people, she said she slept hanging off the edge initially but now sleeps on the sofa when it happens (most nights)

Her own kids are aware and said it’s weird but know it’s a source of arguments so didn’t say much else.

Apart from this as far as I know they have a normal amount of problems but things mainly work and everyone is mostly happy.

My BF said this is a major issue and she’s willing to call the wedding off if it isn’t resolved.
i know she’s angry and sleep deprived but that’s a constant issue due to this situation.

Does anyone have any advice please? Is she BU?

OP posts:
DaisyDenise · 29/11/2025 13:04

BecauseIWantTo · 29/11/2025 08:12

I did and wish I could edit the OP now as it’s all people wlll focus on and I’ll get hundreds of similar replies.

I admit I’m not the best at maths but I always change identifying details when I post and write in my OP that I’ve done this.

I thought it would be obvious that’s the case and when I see someone mention a “DD” in an OP that gets referred to as “he” later then I don’t question it as I assume someone has changed a few things.

The step-children’s ages are relevant to the situation, even if the ages of your own children aren’t.

A 4 year old wanting to bed share is different to an 11 year old if you see what I mean.

Did you change the ages of the step-children too? The replies you’re getting mightn’t be accurate if you did.

outerspacepotato · 29/11/2025 13:00

I'll bet he was keen to move in with her.

She's not being unreasonable. They're incompatible due to his parenting practices and his ignoring her discomfort with his 11 year old's actions trying to catch her dressing and so on. If she really has 2 daughters, he could be doing this to them too. She's also becoming sleep deprived because of his parenting practices.

I'd have him move out ASAP. Find a new place and that's it. She's made a big mistake and she needs to put her daughters and herself ahead of having unrelated males in the home.

MO0N · 29/11/2025 12:56

I'd say that this man is grooming your friend to be the main carer for his children, expecting her to tolerate having her sleep disturbed by them etc, having to defer to what they want.
She should definitely end things because it will only get worse once she has made some kind of commitment to him and he has more leverage over her.
He's trying to subordinate her so that she will obey him.

Millytante · 29/11/2025 12:56

Rosscameasdoody · 29/11/2025 11:32

The clarification was on the first page. Read the updates.

Sure, but it’s easy to read a thread arseways by accident, not noticing time stamps etc til you’re already knee-deep.
I usually ‘unflip’ so as to start at the beginning of the thread, but overlooked that just now and barged in at the top end.
Mea maxima culpa, MN .

Millytante · 29/11/2025 12:52

Hedgehogbrown · 29/11/2025 10:01

So your friend had her first child when she was 13? She's been a single Mother all this time but can afford a house to accommodate all these people? She's going well for herself. Anyway they should break it off because she is coming between the Father and his kids. Good on him for standing his ground. Most Dad's alienate their children to please their new partner. Your friend is not cut out to be a step mother. She needs to move on front this.

Judgmental attitude about her house aside, how did you read any of this and conclude that this pushy bloke is the one person here deserving of praise?

tripleginandtonic · 29/11/2025 12:49

She had a dc at 13?

Millytante · 29/11/2025 12:46

Andromed1 · 29/11/2025 12:26

This relationship cant work. Her partner needs to provide a secure home for his children on his own.

And in the nick of time he came across BF

Millytante · 29/11/2025 12:46

diddl · 29/11/2025 08:53

Sleeping on the sofa in her own house?

He needs to move back out.

He's latched onto a good thing!

Does she also look after the kids whilst he works or does a hobby?

Hobby, I’d bet. Modern fathers seem unable to ‘put away childish things’ and become men, as they are exhorted to do in the Bible! 😆

Millytante · 29/11/2025 12:42

Ophy83 · 29/11/2025 08:56

If the only issue between them is the bed, maybe he could get a small double bed for one or both of his kids and go in with them.

If the ages are correct his son needs his own room now or will do very soon. The moment boys start secondary school they seem to grow up very quickly. I suppose your friend's daughters could swap but they may not be happy about it.

They must be simmering with outrage as it is!

Millytante · 29/11/2025 12:41

Figcherry · 29/11/2025 07:55

She’s 29 with a 16 year old?

Quite….I skidded to a halt there too (but also, of course this setup is ludicrous, and all kinds of wrong. She and her teenaged daughters certainly don’t need this second family squeezed in on top of them. Most unfair on those girls)

Celestialmoods · 29/11/2025 12:28

If a six year old gets into bed with their parent and their step parent doesn’t like it, then it’s the step parent that needs to leave, not the child.

Andromed1 · 29/11/2025 12:26

This relationship cant work. Her partner needs to provide a secure home for his children on his own.

TeatimeForTheSoul · 29/11/2025 12:18

Sounds like this is an ongoing issue which is impacting on your BFs sleep.
There could be multiple reasons why the kids want to be close to their dad. At this point it’s your BFs turn to have undisturbed sleep in a proper bed. Her partner can put a mattress (even blow-up) in his kids’ room to give then proximity if they need it, and he can move to that when they come in.

Betty1625 · 29/11/2025 11:53

6yo with pull ups is concerning... your friend is not unreasonable, her fiance is not unreasonable to want to comfort his kids when they go to him. Sounds complicated. Would they consider living separately for a bit?
It's difficult being a step parent, but even more so of children need additional help (such as co sleeping)

waterrat · 29/11/2025 11:53

She mistrusts an 11 year old motives? what did I just read

Rosscameasdoody · 29/11/2025 11:44

Hedgehogbrown · 29/11/2025 10:01

So your friend had her first child when she was 13? She's been a single Mother all this time but can afford a house to accommodate all these people? She's going well for herself. Anyway they should break it off because she is coming between the Father and his kids. Good on him for standing his ground. Most Dad's alienate their children to please their new partner. Your friend is not cut out to be a step mother. She needs to move on front this.

There was a clarification that this was not the case on page one, and MN have also intervened. Even without the misunderstanding your post is judgmental and misogynistic.

MinnieMountain · 29/11/2025 11:43

We have a just 12yo DS. He’s never shared our bed. One of us always went in with him. He will come in for a cuddle and a chat in the mornings with everyone in pyjamas.

When he was 9/10 he became uncomfortable seeing me naked, and the last year or so he’s stopped leaving doors open when he’s naked. All perfectly normal and how it should be.

I don’t think I’d mind a step-child of a similar age coming in for a morning chat but their DF would have to be in the middle.

Rosscameasdoody · 29/11/2025 11:40

Alittlefrustrated · 29/11/2025 09:59

It's not like I have misread or have poor comprehension skills. I responded to the facts as given in the OP - and her attitude to the 11 yo stood out most. If she was sexually active at a very young age, this might have gone some way towards explaining it.

Edited

You didn’t read very far into the thread though - her clarification was on page one.

Rosscameasdoody · 29/11/2025 11:37

Alittlefrustrated · 29/11/2025 09:43

Do you think her bizarre attitude to the 11 yo is because she had a child at 13? I assume, as she's 29 and her DD is16.
He's bursting in to a room which is actually his room too. My 11 yo DS would also have kept forgetting in these circumstances.

She didn’t have a child at 13, read the update - it was on page one. MN moderator has also intervened to clarify.

Rosscameasdoody · 29/11/2025 11:35

Laura95167 · 29/11/2025 09:42

The problem with changing details is, an 11 year old getting in the bed is very different to 5 year old doing it and different to a 15 year old doing it.

A 6 year old in pull ups is a worry where a 3 year old in them isn't.

An 11 year old walking in is worrying. A 4 year old doing it is frustrating but something youd understand.

If his children are toddlers or small children I understand his response more so than if theyre preteens. Those details make a difference and influence the responses. So unless you can give us the ages of her DSC its hard to say and tbh i really dont see how the ages of DSC could possibly be outing, her age, her partners and her kids ages dont really matter

I think it was her friends’ age she changed to highlight that there was an age gap between her and her fiancé.

Rosscameasdoody · 29/11/2025 11:32

HAPPILYMARRIEDSINCE2012 · 29/11/2025 09:00

Exactly what I was gonnna ask

The clarification was on the first page. Read the updates.

JLou08 · 29/11/2025 11:27

If the children really need comfort at night their dad should go to their rooms rather than your friend having to be uncomfortable and sleep deprived.

justasking111 · 29/11/2025 11:25

Daddy will have to go into their room and sleep there if they wake

Ours were allowed in if ill and on Sunday morning they'd bring a pillow and we'd top and tail. So everyone was comfortable.

I need my sleep.

PorridgeAndSyrup · 29/11/2025 11:25

I'd be running for the hills if I was her. And I don't think she's being paranoid about the 11 year old either. I've heard stories from men about starting to be attracted to women a long time before 11. Absolutely inappropriate for her to be sharing a bed with them, apart from the sleep aspect (there are plenty of biological parents who don't let their kids sleep in with them because they can't cope with the wriggling, the chat and the lack of partner intimacy! So I don't know why a stepmother is being chided for this!)

LeeshaPaper · 29/11/2025 11:25

I hrtft sorry.
I'd also be concerned for her two daughters sharing a house with an (almost) teenage boy - who "forgets" to knock before entering a room.
The whole thing is weird and I don't know if the boy is immature and babyish getting into bed with his dad and SM or mature for his age...
Either way, the dad seems to ignore her concerns so that's not good