to be fed up of hearing 'I've worked hard for my money'

It’s not about admonishing people for having anything, it’s about smug superiority.

There’s a reason some people don’t like “the rich,” and it’s because they’re arseholes shout it.

They get a starting salary of around £31k. That's perfectly fine as an entry pay. It's an honourable job I admit that. But doctors start on £38k and have a higher trajectory. That's for a reason

I 'gasp' the complexity just fine thank you. I felt my post was quite clear that I was fed up of the ATTITUDE, but I'm surprised how many people have managed to miss that and think I'm saying that people shouldn't be allowed to earn a high wage. It's also been eye opening and saddening to see the number of people who genuinely think that it's as simple as 'the way to get lots of money is just to work hard'

I think that's hypocrisy to be honest. We can't fawn over contributions of one sort, but admonish the mention of another.
The OP is all about how important nurses etc are and how hard they work, and they are and they do. But we need financial contributions as well.

I personally have no issue with anyone saying they work hard, regardless of their level or salary. People of all economic levels work hard.

My issue is when they use it as some sort of leverage, like they deserve a round of applause for doing a job they chose to do. Yes you’ve made sacrifices, you chose to.

Worse, when they are of the opinion that people should bow down to their superior tax input and show them endless gratitude.

“We keep this country running, people should be grateful for our mere existence.”

This isn’t Oliver Twist, stop treating people like peasants.

Do you know what nursing training actually entails these days? They're not wiping arses all day, those days have gone.

Hard work and SKILL

Lower paid jobs are usually less skilled and that's why. There's a reason the doctor pay trajectory vastly surpasses the nurses.

I never said people who earn a lot of money don't work hard, some people are so wilfully ignorant 🙄

The point is that when wealthy people say they're wealthy because they worked hard it both devalues the work of people on lower wages and ignores any privilege they had. Yes people will come along and say 'I started with nothing and pulled myself up from my bootstraps' but the majority of wealthy people come from a place of privilege and it's disingenuous to act as if they got there through hard work alone.

I never said people who earn a lot of money don't work hard, some people are so wilfully ignorant 🙄

The point is that when wealthy people say they're wealthy because they worked hard it both devalues the work of people on lower wages and ignores any privilege they had. Yes people will come along and say 'I started with nothing and pulled myself up from my bootstraps' but the majority of wealthy people come from a place of privilege and it's disingenuous to act as if they got there through hard work alone.

Leeches? I think you have a dark view of the world and the people in it.

I've heard talk of an exit tax...

Yes. As in not be totally self sufficient.

Which is apparently the issue?

I agree. It’s a bizarre attitude. We also will always need people to collect the bins, work in retail, clean the streets. All of these people deserve to be able to pay for a decent standard of living. It’s the gap in earnings that is the problem, of course some jobs will always pay more than other jobs but if wealth was redistributed more equally, it would be better for all of society.

I agree. It’s a bizarre attitude. We also will always need people to collect the bins, work in retail, clean the streets. All of these people deserve to be able to pay for a decent standard of living. It’s the gap in earnings that is the problem, of course some jobs will always pay more than other jobs but if wealth was redistributed more equally, it would be better for all of society.

I 'gasp' the complexity just fine thank you. I felt my post was quite clear that I was fed up of the ATTITUDE, but I'm surprised how many people have managed to miss that and think I'm saying that people shouldn't be allowed to earn a high wage. It's also been eye opening and saddening to see the number of people who genuinely think that it's as simple as 'the way to get lots of money is just to work hard'

The OP any many others on this thread are saying they don’t agree with it and are annoyed by it…

But wouldn’t it be counterproductive
a lot of billionaires run businesses that employ people and support and contribute to the economy
if they weren’t allow to keep or earn that much why would you bother
so then the treasury would lose income and we’d lose jobs

You have chosen to do that though. I mean honestly, who cares if you or others on this thread work hard? I work hard but I consider myself lucky to be able to do that. I'd feel such an idiot going around saying 'I work hard'. Who cares? I'm not saving lives, unlike a nurse or even a carer.

Is it your family or friends telling you they don’t think you work hard?

I have no issue with paying my taxes. But I do take issues with people denying that I work hard for my money. My husband and I are in law - my husband works 80hrs+ a week as a partner and I work 60-80 a week in house. All day every day we either parent or work. No downtime. We do our very best to be fully present parents so our child never feels let down - we’ll be there for the carol service and the nativity etc. but that means we come home do bedtime and then work until we drop. Our work product is scrutinised and if we give wrong advice (even if it’s in the 18th hour working that day) we will probably be sued or under regulatory scrutiny. That is a huge amount of pressure. The rates of burnout and addiction in our industry are high. I know not every high earning job is the same, I have some friends in IT earning similarly who can do they job with their eyes closed and work about 4 hrs a day but let’s not pretend that’s everyone. For most people (not all) they are working c40hrs a week. The mental toll of working double that for 15-20 yrs and living on 4-5hrs sleep is huge. C40% of my time I’m working for the taxpayer. As I said I don’t resent that, I support the state, but I do disagree with anyone who won’t accept I’m working hard. I’ve worked other jobs eg retail as a student and when I clocked off I was off - now I’m never off.