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To think Britain is getting more racist ?

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JifNtGif · 28/11/2025 15:29

Overt anti "foreigner" / anti non-white discussions appear to be normalised at times these days. I don't remember this in previous decades. Was it just under the surface ?

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Southernecho · 30/11/2025 17:14

GentleOlive · 30/11/2025 12:19

None of what you have said is facts. It’s just some opinions.

The immigration numbers are only marginally down because of some minor changes to made to system in 2023.

In any case, Labour will get pasted and out of power in too distant future. You can shout their virtues from the rooftops then. They will need some die hard supporters like you.

Not a die hard supporter at all but you wrote some very clear and provable "untruths"
Immigration has gone from 1.2m under Sunak and Badenoch to just over 200k now
Marginal is not a 1m drop, what school did you go too?

Your predictions may yet prove very wrong in 3.5 years time.

ThePolarEspresso · 30/11/2025 16:46

thepariscrimefiles · 30/11/2025 16:45

Many people, including myself, would choose a peaceful assisted death over suffering the pain and indignity of a horrible terminal illness or the slow slide into dementia.

You can do that now, what you want to do is start a pathway in law to take children and the vulnerable with you.

If you think others are wrong then show us how.

thepariscrimefiles · 30/11/2025 16:45

ThePolarEspresso · 30/11/2025 16:33

Where do atheist white privilege people get their world views that lead them to self destruction?

Many people, including myself, would choose a peaceful assisted death over suffering the pain and indignity of a horrible terminal illness or the slow slide into dementia.

ThePolarEspresso · 30/11/2025 16:44

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c0j1z14p57po

I don't know if anyone had verified this BBC article, I am too lazy to do so.

15,300 is a lot less white middle class atheist faces that paid lots of tax, some don't care aren't here and a lot of organs sold.

Medically-assisted dying – also known as voluntary euthanasia – accounted for 4.7% of deaths in Canada in 2023, new government data shows.
The country's fifth annual report since euthanasia was legalised in 2016 showed around 15,300 people underwent assisted dying last year after being successful in their applications.

A photo of the Canadian flag flying in front of Parliament Hill in Ottawa, Canada.

Assisted dying now accounts for one in 20 Canada deaths

For the first time, the annual report delved into race and ethnic data of those who underwent assisted dying.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c0j1z14p57po

thepariscrimefiles · 30/11/2025 16:42

ThePolarEspresso · 30/11/2025 16:29

Let me explain it to you, too many don't seem to want to see white faces, hence reduced appearance on TV, over represented in abortion, assisted suicide stats and projected white genocide according to some, in the West.

For those bad at maths, if you bring in those with high portions of HIV/inbreeding they require more care, so you spiral more to care for them wjo require more care.

If in Canada as sone say, the India medics to over there euthenise or abort (telling lies that the baby is disableded) white people in over representing numbers, taking them for mugs, If it is true, that is what is going on over there, it's genocide. Lifesite news BTW isn't run by a white man.

Edited

These are just the insane ramblings of a racist conspiracy theorist.

GETTINGLIKEMYMOTHER · 30/11/2025 16:36

I do think anti semitism is on the rise, having become almost ‘fashionable’, but IMO a lot of the ‘anti-foreigner’ stuff is down to people being heartily sick of the huge numbers - of mostly young men - arriving on the boats, and costing a fortune to house, when the country has such a dire shortage of halfway decent, affordable housing for those already here, whether native or not.

ThePolarEspresso · 30/11/2025 16:33

thepariscrimefiles · 30/11/2025 16:32

How is this racist when primarily privileged white people are voluntarily choosing an assisted death? I think privileged white people are less likely to be religious and therefore are less likely to have ethical or religious concerns about assisting dying.

Where do atheist white privilege people get their world views that lead them to self destruction?

thepariscrimefiles · 30/11/2025 16:32

ThePolarEspresso · 30/11/2025 16:21

Canada looks quite racist to me, this is why I think people want to stop looking at the maths, they don't want it to be true.

www.westernstandard.news/news/assisted-suicide-primarily-privileged-white-people-as-canada-leads-global-organ-market/50796

How is this racist when primarily privileged white people are voluntarily choosing an assisted death? I think privileged white people are less likely to be religious and therefore are less likely to have ethical or religious concerns about assisting dying.

ThePolarEspresso · 30/11/2025 16:29

pocketpairs · 30/11/2025 16:21

People are just uniformed (or just watch too much GB new!).

Let me try to explain one argument for immigration in simple terms...people are required to sustain an economy and drive economic growth. The current England and Wales birth rate is 1.41 (meaning for every 2 people that die, only 1.41 on average are born). The required birth rate to sustain a stable population is 2.1. As the birth rate is so low, especially in economies with aging populations, you need immigration.

The NHS and the care sector would collapse without immigrants propping them up. But people just don't like seeing (too many) brown / black faces.

Plus there statistically no evidence that immigrants commit more crime than British born people.

Let me explain it to you, too many don't seem to want to see white faces, hence reduced appearance on TV, over represented in abortion, assisted suicide stats and projected white genocide according to some, in the West.

For those bad at maths, if you bring in those with high portions of HIV/inbreeding they require more care, so you spiral more to care for them wjo require more care.

If in Canada as sone say, the India medics to over there euthenise or abort (telling lies that the baby is disableded) white people in over representing numbers, taking them for mugs, If it is true, that is what is going on over there, it's genocide. Lifesite news BTW isn't run by a white man.

PracticallyPeapod · 30/11/2025 16:29

There is no doubt that people feel more comfortable expressing openly racists views.

I have never heard people so angry as I have this weekend about the lifting of the 2 child benefit cap. Low wage working people feel that migrants with multiple children are going to gain from this, and be better off they are working.

pocketpairs · 30/11/2025 16:25

FirmOliveReader · 30/11/2025 16:10

Oh bless your little mind.

What don't you get about the concept that in a country where millions of people are struggling in terms of housing, social care, healthcare, education and money, people get pissed off when they see other people accessing those things who aren't from this country, aren't contributing and therefore shouldn't be benefiting from those things they have not contributed towards.

It's nothing to do with race.

People are equally pissed off if someone born here is not contributing but getting benefits of society that other people are not getting, but they are our citizens and therefore our problem.

And I'm equally pissed off if an American or Australian or French white person is being funded to live here by my taxes.

It's pathetic and simple-minded to shout racist when people object to British tax payers money going to people who are not British taxpayers. It's ridiculous.

With your clearly oversized brain, care to explain how we sustain the current NHS and adult social care sectors without immigrants, with 21% and 30% non-british born national (often Nigerians) working in these sectors..the latter at minimum wage??

pocketpairs · 30/11/2025 16:21

FuzzySnail3 · 30/11/2025 15:55

Telling people immigration isn’t an issue doesn’t suddenly make things ok as they are. In fact, it makes people angrier because it means nothing gets done.

It’s actually enraging. I worry about my family being targeted (thankfully it’s never happened, everyone near me is lovely) AND I worry about the state of the immigration system (which has consequences for other services in the country, and some of the court judgements / immigration appeals etc. are just taking the piss).

People are fed up and attitudes like this push people towards Farage and friends.

People are just uniformed (or just watch too much GB new!).

Let me try to explain one argument for immigration in simple terms...people are required to sustain an economy and drive economic growth. The current England and Wales birth rate is 1.41 (meaning for every 2 people that die, only 1.41 on average are born). The required birth rate to sustain a stable population is 2.1. As the birth rate is so low, especially in economies with aging populations, you need immigration.

The NHS and the care sector would collapse without immigrants propping them up. But people just don't like seeing (too many) brown / black faces.

Plus there statistically no evidence that immigrants commit more crime than British born people.

ThePolarEspresso · 30/11/2025 16:21

Canada looks quite racist to me, this is why I think people want to stop looking at the maths, they don't want it to be true.

www.westernstandard.news/news/assisted-suicide-primarily-privileged-white-people-as-canada-leads-global-organ-market/50796

ThePolarEspresso · 30/11/2025 16:15

Not engaging with me because you are too lazy to lay out all the maths workings out?

I am too lazy to critically think sometimes, which is why I asked you to bring your data here, I would have liked to go through it.

I note that human sex/slave trafficking in some countries is taking a back seat to human organ trade which gives better returns.

www.lifesitenews.com/blogs/canada-is-turning-its-assisted-suicide-regime-into-an-organ-donation-supply-chain/

FirmOliveReader · 30/11/2025 16:10

pocketpairs · 30/11/2025 15:31

Racist people don't like being told they're racist..hmmm.

People are dissatisfied with thier lives and looking for someone to blame, migrants are the current boogeyman.

These same people will end up voting for the privately educated multi millionaire Farage, who they think if the common man. They'll also smile with glee about brexit and not be able to articulate a single benefit.

Oh bless your little mind.

What don't you get about the concept that in a country where millions of people are struggling in terms of housing, social care, healthcare, education and money, people get pissed off when they see other people accessing those things who aren't from this country, aren't contributing and therefore shouldn't be benefiting from those things they have not contributed towards.

It's nothing to do with race.

People are equally pissed off if someone born here is not contributing but getting benefits of society that other people are not getting, but they are our citizens and therefore our problem.

And I'm equally pissed off if an American or Australian or French white person is being funded to live here by my taxes.

It's pathetic and simple-minded to shout racist when people object to British tax payers money going to people who are not British taxpayers. It's ridiculous.

cardibach · 30/11/2025 16:06

ThePolarEspresso · 30/11/2025 16:01

You need to go through projected assistance suicide rates, if you haven't gone through the maths in fine details and used what date there is available from Canada, i do not understand how you can claim the maths wrong?

Because it’s completely irrelevant. I’m not engaging with you further.

ThePolarEspresso · 30/11/2025 16:01

cardibach · 30/11/2025 16:00

Eh? What has Canada to to with anything?
I can’t find the detail on the maths but it was based on a misunderstanding of percentages.

You need to go through projected assistance suicide rates, if you haven't gone through the maths in fine details and used what date there is available from Canada, i do not understand how you can claim the maths wrong?

cardibach · 30/11/2025 16:00

ThePolarEspresso · 30/11/2025 15:55

Can you go through the maths for us?

In your maths for example do you keep increasing the UK aborted rates and include white Canadian MAID death rates?

Edited

Eh? What has Canada to to with anything?
I can’t find the detail on the maths but it was based on a misunderstanding of percentages.

ThePolarEspresso · 30/11/2025 15:55

cardibach · 30/11/2025 15:49

Not RTFT but I case nobody has corrected you - this isn’t true. It’s based on some very, very poor maths.

Can you go through the maths for us?

In your maths for example do you keep increasing the UK aborted rates and include white Canadian MAID death rates?

FuzzySnail3 · 30/11/2025 15:55

pocketpairs · 30/11/2025 15:31

Racist people don't like being told they're racist..hmmm.

People are dissatisfied with thier lives and looking for someone to blame, migrants are the current boogeyman.

These same people will end up voting for the privately educated multi millionaire Farage, who they think if the common man. They'll also smile with glee about brexit and not be able to articulate a single benefit.

Telling people immigration isn’t an issue doesn’t suddenly make things ok as they are. In fact, it makes people angrier because it means nothing gets done.

It’s actually enraging. I worry about my family being targeted (thankfully it’s never happened, everyone near me is lovely) AND I worry about the state of the immigration system (which has consequences for other services in the country, and some of the court judgements / immigration appeals etc. are just taking the piss).

People are fed up and attitudes like this push people towards Farage and friends.

cardibach · 30/11/2025 15:49

rriffraff · 28/11/2025 22:14

I think that it is because the native British population is going to be the minority by 2050 at current immegration rates.
This is bound to lead to an identity movement of what it means to be native British that did not exist before as there was no need, and as a reaction to sliding into minority marginal position with and competing with other groups for jobs and resources.

Not RTFT but I case nobody has corrected you - this isn’t true. It’s based on some very, very poor maths.

pocketpairs · 30/11/2025 15:33

abracadabra1980 · 30/11/2025 06:58

I think Britain has been a tolerant country until fairly recently, when wokeness went too far - for the older generation who still watch mainstream TV, they began to question why every advert had to have a non white family necessary to represent the product. Its generally African; never a Swedish, Australian, Canadian, American, Danish, Irish, Indonesian, Eastern European, Chinese family, etc.. so thats TV. Then there are the issues with open borders. People don't feel safe; with over 53,000 illegal immigrants - mainly men, who have 'disappeared' within our country of late, it has the net result of making the indigenous population feel threatened-especially those with daughters. The care sector, delivery driver and security sectors are hugely over represented by immigrants-presumably legal, many probably not. The influx of immigrants in the nail and beauty, barbering and hand car wash sectors has been glaringly obvious in the last ten years. I teach at a local further education establishment. None of the hairdressing or barbering people came through the official route so where are they 'learning' their trade? My students cant risk setting up a business anywhere these days as the 'foreigners' think nothing of just setting up next door. Money laundering is a big issue with the vast majority of them and local people where I live a) notice and b) are mightily fed up with it all. A couple of our local town centres are no go areas these days. Immigration has gone way too far when the indigenous population no longer feel safe or represented.

Guess you're someone who doesn't like being called a racist either..

pocketpairs · 30/11/2025 15:31

TempestTost · 30/11/2025 00:30

There are several elements around this I think. I think that people have become very fed up with the way immigration has been done, and also to be sick of being told that makes them racists. That is around numbers, the economic role that they are filling, and the stress its placing on things like housing and health. I also think there is a class element in that there seems to be an uptick in the importation of other countries class and sectarian issues.

I think there is also increasing unhappiness with the way the refugee system works currently.

That does spill out in some cases into a general frustration with immigrants in the community, however, for the most part I think people draw a line between being unhappy with policies, or sometimes unhappy with the effect a community is having, and blaming that on individuals. The exception would be some of the refugees who some people suspect are not legitimate/honest.

Also, the increasing push from the progressive left to see people in terms of race, and to lump people together based on often pretty clunky racial profiles, has had the effect of making race something people are thinking about a lot more. Their idea is that this will be a positive thing, in fact, I think it's been quite the opposite, it's a gift to actual race essentialists. Nothing helps train people to be racists more than categorising everyone by race all the time.

At the same time, some have pushed back against that and been called racist for it.

So an increasing push to racialised thinking, coupled with a devaluation of the term racist because people think it is a bull shit accusation, it's not great.

That being said I think people in the UK are much less racist than most other places in the world.

Racist people don't like being told they're racist..hmmm.

People are dissatisfied with thier lives and looking for someone to blame, migrants are the current boogeyman.

These same people will end up voting for the privately educated multi millionaire Farage, who they think if the common man. They'll also smile with glee about brexit and not be able to articulate a single benefit.

canuckup · 30/11/2025 13:38

This includes all races of people, right?

Mistyglade · 30/11/2025 13:30

No more than other countries. Certain elements of our press are professional shit stirrers.

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