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To think Britain is getting more racist ?

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JifNtGif · 28/11/2025 15:29

Overt anti "foreigner" / anti non-white discussions appear to be normalised at times these days. I don't remember this in previous decades. Was it just under the surface ?

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Bambamhoohoo · 28/11/2025 16:10

TheNoonBell · 28/11/2025 15:46

Mass uncontrolled immigration and suppression of the native's discontent was always going to elicit a response.

It's everywhere and quite open now, people who I thought we apolitical are getting very fired up.

I don’t think they’re fired up, I think they’re groomed

Happyher · 28/11/2025 16:08

No - I think since Brexit people feel that it’s ok to say how they feel. We opened a Pandora’s box of hate and vitriol

ThePolarEspresso · 28/11/2025 16:06

There has a clip in this short video of people from all races in England having a bitch about each other, many years ago.

ThePolarEspresso · 28/11/2025 16:03

I don't understand how Morgan McSweeney as an Irish man (even though Ireland was once part of the UK) never mind someone from half way across the world can rule the British!

How do you define foreign interference?

What type of person is so up themselves that they believe they have the right to tell another nation how to live?

moderate · 28/11/2025 15:57

Thepeopleversuswork · 28/11/2025 15:40

I think most people in Britain are fairly tolerant towards individuals of other ethnicities and from other countries (by comparison with other nations where racism is much more overt).

But there's always been a suspicion towards immigrants/foreigners which over time became less and less acceptable and had become largely taboo, but plenty of people expressed it behind closed doors or alluded to it obliquely in the form of "banter".

In the past few years these people have become emboldened by the far right endlessly telling them that being racist is not the same as being worried about immigration. That, coupled with genuine concerns about migration and amplified by social media, has created a toxic cocktail whereby people are letting it all hang out.

I think many people in this country on a one-to-one basis are still capable of being tolerant towards people not like them, but they have been persuaded by cynical political agitators that being racist towards groups of people en masse is OK.

In the past few years these people have become emboldened by the far right endlessly telling them that being racist is not the same as being worried about immigration. That, coupled with genuine concerns about migration and amplified by social media, has created a toxic cocktail whereby people are letting it all hang out.

The genuine concerns about migration you have correctly identified have caused people to push back against the far left (and more recently the mainstream left) endlessly telling them that having genuine concerns about migration is the same as being racist.

That, coupled with many people on the left's tendency to conflate concepts (NB Islamism is not a race) has created a situation that the far right can easily tap into, which will almost certainly (and very regrettably, yet entirely avoidably) require an overcorrection before the left start to engage with it seriously.

David Frum put it well: If Liberals won't enforce borders, Fascists will.

TheNoonBell · 28/11/2025 15:46

Mass uncontrolled immigration and suppression of the native's discontent was always going to elicit a response.

It's everywhere and quite open now, people who I thought we apolitical are getting very fired up.

25th · 28/11/2025 15:40

OP, 100% agree with you. My best friend, who is black, and grew up in Hackney in the days of the NF, told me recently she feels the racism she's experienced recently is the worse she has ever known.

I also agree with poster above who said antisemitism is on the rise, as is Islamaphobia.

Thepeopleversuswork · 28/11/2025 15:40

I think most people in Britain are fairly tolerant towards individuals of other ethnicities and from other countries (by comparison with other nations where racism is much more overt).

But there's always been a suspicion towards immigrants/foreigners which over time became less and less acceptable and had become largely taboo, but plenty of people expressed it behind closed doors or alluded to it obliquely in the form of "banter".

In the past few years these people have become emboldened by the far right endlessly telling them that being racist is not the same as being worried about immigration. That, coupled with genuine concerns about migration and amplified by social media, has created a toxic cocktail whereby people are letting it all hang out.

I think many people in this country on a one-to-one basis are still capable of being tolerant towards people not like them, but they have been persuaded by cynical political agitators that being racist towards groups of people en masse is OK.

Namenamchange · 28/11/2025 15:32

I think Britain is a fairly mixed tolerant country.

I think there is a huge rise in antisemitism which was just below the surface and now isn’t.

Bambamhoohoo · 28/11/2025 15:30

No it is 100% more racist.

its a survival mechanism (do think every German who thought for/ supported the nazis were actually just Jew haters? Course not- they were in survival mode by fawning)