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Partner won’t change Trust

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LindsayAnn97 · 28/11/2025 09:26

Hello am I being unreasonable to want my partner to change his trust for our son and myself?
For context we have been living together for 5 years and have a 2 year old together. We live in his property and he rents another couple out. All in his name. I was working full time and contributing but since my maternity leave ended I went back to uni which I am currently still doing. I don’t have access to free childcare as my partner earns over the threshold and we don’t have family close by. I am not on the deeds to his property and he does not want to get married. Currently his trust is to benefit his “family” but our son and myself are not mentioned. He has no life insurance either. I find this quite irresponsible as it’s one thing to not look after myself if he passed away unexpectedly but it’s another not to look after our son. It’s the principle of it that bothers me I want to protect his inheritance. Is there anyone that has experience a similar issue? Any advice would be great!

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notatinydancer · 29/11/2025 16:42

LindsayAnn97 · 28/11/2025 10:27

That’s my main concern, it’s not as if he’s in ill health or anything but if he did fall ill or unexpectedly passed I don’t even know how I would pay the mortgages or anything for that matter. He won’t even tell me his salary 🤷🏼‍♀️ I just want peace of mind that I would be able to live in the family home. A friend of mines partner passed away and they didn’t have children but it just puts everything in perspective.

You wouldn’t have a mortgage to pay , you don’t own a property. It would be up to the kindness of whoever he’s left the house to to decide if they’d let you stay.

notatinydancer · 29/11/2025 16:34

MrsDoubtfire123 · 28/11/2025 10:22

A good idea. But , this won't help the OP if her partner dies though... I think that's her concern.

They mean take out insurance on him.

PashaMinaMio · 29/11/2025 15:57

FakeGrassPlastic · 28/11/2025 10:05

Buy your own life insurance

I know someone who did this. It paid out hugely when required.

I think you also might be able to independently Insure his life too? You pay the premiums.
Explore your options. Take professional financial advice.

sittingonabeach · 29/11/2025 15:52

@Legobricksinatub this situation is slightly more complicated as there is a young child in the mix.

Legobricksinatub · 29/11/2025 14:56

Amazing that there are any female graduates at all if it is impossible for women to study without men supporting them….

HoskinsChoice · 29/11/2025 14:18

GooseberryGreen · 28/11/2025 23:50

I'd hardly call doing a dentistry degree an irresponsible choice.

It isn't. But the only reason she's able to do it is she's found herself a man to fund her entire living costs whilst she studies to develop her career. There are not many women who would find themselves in that cushy position. Granted, many women wouldn't want to sponge this way but as she doesn't mind, she's in a good position. She seems to be expecting him to fund her life AND wants to screw him for his assets which are nothing to do with her. I'm struggling to see why he is being made out to be the mean one here!

caringcarer · 29/11/2025 00:11

Whatever you don't have another DC with this man. Get your degree. Get a job and make him pay for your DC childcare. You need to start building up a nest egg. Taking out life insurance on your partners life is a good idea. If he refuses to pay would he pay half? I'd be asking him. I'd also tell him I was worried if he died how I'd afford to bring up his DC. Let him think about it.

GooseberryGreen · 28/11/2025 23:50

I'd hardly call doing a dentistry degree an irresponsible choice.

Winterwonderwhy · 28/11/2025 23:12

ThejoyofNC · 28/11/2025 12:35

I'm confused why you have called him irresponsible. You have been the irresponsible one in this situation.

Yes! Yes! And on top of that you’re gone to university for a long degree, instead of getting back to work. Bad decisions after the other op. All yours.

InterIgnis · 28/11/2025 22:22

Elsvieta · 28/11/2025 21:44

What is "his trust"? How does it differ from a will? Does he have a will, and if so do you know what's in it?

Trusts are an entity in their own right, and are quite different to wills.

https://www.phrsolicitors.co.uk/legal-services-for-individuals/wills-and-probate/resources/benefits-living-trust-vs-will

With a will, ownership of an asset passes from one individual to another. If an asset is in a trust, it belongs to the trust. The named beneficiary may have use of an asset (a house, for example), but they don’t own it. What access they have to any assets held in trust is determined by the terms of the trust.

Elsvieta · 28/11/2025 21:44

What is "his trust"? How does it differ from a will? Does he have a will, and if so do you know what's in it?

Upsetbetty · 28/11/2025 21:27

Bambamhoohoo · 28/11/2025 21:22

How much does it cost you?!? I must be massively overpaying for mine 😭

35 for him and 35 for my own per month.

Bambamhoohoo · 28/11/2025 21:22

Upsetbetty · 28/11/2025 20:48

the policy I have on my ex is a whole life assurance policy! It pays out regardless up to the age of 99. It is also medically underwritten for life.

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How much does it cost you?!? I must be massively overpaying for mine 😭

Upsetbetty · 28/11/2025 20:48

Bambamhoohoo · 28/11/2025 17:04

How does this work though, as my own life insurance recently involved a battery of health assessments including full access to my medical records and a nurses visit to do tests.

That’s how they decided how likely I was to die soon so they could quote a £ per month to insure my life.

without contact with the insured how do they know he isn’t a 100 a day smoker with genetic bowel cancer and a previous heart attack? No one would want to insure that.

the policy I have on my ex is a whole life assurance policy! It pays out regardless up to the age of 99. It is also medically underwritten for life.

Bambamhoohoo · 28/11/2025 20:40

TidyCyan · 28/11/2025 17:45

It's quite unusual to need a nurse visit and further tests unless you disclose something concerning in the initial questionnaire e.g. high blood pressure, long period signed off work, or that you had a mole investigated recently. Most of the time you fill in the questionnaire and can pay then and there.

It's not true to say that the person "doesn't have to do anything" though. They have to provide their medical information and sign to give permission. I find @Eroll 's post confusing unless she means she filled in a policy in his name on his behalf and put her email address which is quite different!

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There is no medical issue with either of us- we were told it was because we’re over 40.

BruFord · 28/11/2025 19:58

Puzzledandpissedoff · 28/11/2025 19:02

Just a thought, but the many suggestions about staying to complete the course and save up rather overlook the possibility of the DP finding himself someone else and wrecking the whole plan beecause he wants to move them in

IME men who feel they've met their partner for life don't often have issues with committing; where they won't it's often because they'd rather keep their options open, and 3 to 4 years sounds an awfully long time to spend "playing nice" for the sake of a roof over OP's head

@Puzzledandpissedoff Yes, the OP needs a back up plan in case the relationship fails before she qualifies.

If she has a supportive family, I’d advise being open with them about the situation. If my DD was in this position, for example, I’d help her and my GC get sorted out if he kicks them out.

InterIgnis · 28/11/2025 19:51

There are a number of different types of trust. It may be the case that he couldn’t change it, even if he were of a mind to.

Both my husband and I are beneficiaries of family trust funds, and it isn’t within either of our power to change what is laid out in said trusts or alter them in any way. That we are married is irrelevant. Benefiting from a trust and/or being able to utilize assets owned by it is not the same thing as having control over it.

arethereanyleftatall · 28/11/2025 19:09

Another possibility is that the op did not choose to get pregnant here.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 28/11/2025 19:02

Just a thought, but the many suggestions about staying to complete the course and save up rather overlook the possibility of the DP finding himself someone else and wrecking the whole plan beecause he wants to move them in

IME men who feel they've met their partner for life don't often have issues with committing; where they won't it's often because they'd rather keep their options open, and 3 to 4 years sounds an awfully long time to spend "playing nice" for the sake of a roof over OP's head

GooseberryGreen · 28/11/2025 18:14

The trust is likely to carry on even if he dies. If most of his assets are in the trust, there may be very little for anybody to inherit. Hopefully, your son is a beneficiary of the trust. Without seeing the trust accounts it would be difficult to know which assets he actually owns and which ones are held by the trust. So seeing a copy of his will tells you very little.

If he wanted to provide you with financial security or make you aware of his financial situation he would have done do by now. I wouldn't ask questions now and risk rocking the boat. You must get through that dentistry course. It would be much harder to do as a single mother responsible for almost all childcare, rent, food, utilities and so on and people advising you to storm off for the single life as a dentistry student with a baby in tow are not being realistic. The dentistry degree will set you up financially.

This is not politically correct but in the meantime I'd be sweetness and light to him and try to keep your looks up - no slopping round the house in ancient sweatshirts and baggy leggings with messy hair. You are utterly dependent on his goodwill. I'd be being super careful about contraception. By the time you've finished your degree your child should be at school and easier to manage. Then I would leave him without a backward glance.

sittingonabeach · 28/11/2025 18:01

Why did you have a child before completing your degree? You are in a very vulnerable position, whether your partner is alive or dead.

Does he have any other children?

Jollyhockeystickss · 28/11/2025 17:53

LindsayAnn97 · 28/11/2025 10:27

That’s my main concern, it’s not as if he’s in ill health or anything but if he did fall ill or unexpectedly passed I don’t even know how I would pay the mortgages or anything for that matter. He won’t even tell me his salary 🤷🏼‍♀️ I just want peace of mind that I would be able to live in the family home. A friend of mines partner passed away and they didn’t have children but it just puts everything in perspective.

You would be homeless as the properties are not yours, hes a clever man hes made a will it sounds like you are not in it but his family will be and they will want you out that house asap, you need to speak to him and if he wont speak there is your answer, he has no responsibility to house you if he dies but to leave his child homeless is terrible

Negroany · 28/11/2025 17:52

Washingupdone · 28/11/2025 17:48

Buy your own life insurance on your DP and invest heavily in your Isa and pension.

How can she "invest heavily" in anything, she has no income?

Washingupdone · 28/11/2025 17:48

Buy your own life insurance on your DP and invest heavily in your Isa and pension.

MowingMachine · 28/11/2025 17:46

TidyCyan · 28/11/2025 17:41

I find it very concerning that OP thinks she'd be paying the mortgage on this house! Not unless she buys it off the beneficiary of his estate...

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If it's in a trust she won't even be able to do that.

OP, you seriously need to start trying to understand the situation you are in.