Page 3 | Watered down workers protection

surreygirly · 28/11/2025 10:27

KitTea3 · 27/11/2025 19:01

In case you're unfairly dismissed? 🤔 I mean it didn't used to be 2 years, I think it was previously one year and the Tories increased it.

Personally I wouldn't have minded that protection. The fact I assumed I would only have any kind of protection after completing 2 years service is why I wholly suffered for those 2 years too scared to tell anyone I was struggling and not at all coping (although in hindsight I know under disability discrimination would have still been a thing from day one). It was only after those 2 years had passed it felt safe enough to tell my employer I wasn't coping and actually as it happens they were more than happy to help

I am hubby owner own business
We have had people sail thought probation then as year in become utterly hopeless
The easiest way to not get sacked is to be a good employee
I expect tp have the right to decide who I employ in a company with our name on it and who not to employ
People set up a business to make a profit and give themselves a good lifestyle and freedom
Not just for the privilege of giving someone a job whoi s useless

senua · 28/11/2025 10:26

why on earth would someone want a workers right bill that gives them the right to claim for unfair dismissal from DAY 1?
You have 14 days to send a dress back merely because you don't like the colour or the fit isn't quite right. But Labour want to make it very difficult for employers, from Day 1, to get rid of an unsatisfactory employee who will cost £££ and lose staff goodwill/morale.
It's bonkers. They have no idea how the economy works.

JamesClyman · 28/11/2025 10:17

It always was going to be nothing more than a job creation scheme for employment lawyers. I'm actually surprised the Govt. had the sense, and guts, to change it.

RedRiverShore5 · 28/11/2025 08:50

6 months is about right and similar to many probationary periods.

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PropertyD · 28/11/2025 08:47

I am still not understanding here Someone joins a company Monday morning and immediately has the 'right' to claim for unfair dismissal. What would be an example of this.

I personally dont like the right to sick pay from Day 1 either but that is a personal view.

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devildeepbluesea · 27/11/2025 22:05

mumofoneAloneandwell · 27/11/2025 20:43

The party is called 'the Labour party'

Where are the rights for labourers?

Nonsense. Of course you should be protected from unfair dismissal from day one

But the point is, by making it a day 1 right you are making the issue litigious (potentially) immediately.

It’s entirely fair that a probationary period is for both employer and employee to be sure they both made the right decision without the threat of legal action. Which is why I support UD claims from 6 months.

When you’re in government you have an incredibly difficult balancing act to perform, and so far this government has boosted workers rights but have also listened to employers. It’s late but at least they got there.

mumofoneAloneandwell · 27/11/2025 20:43

The party is called 'the Labour party'

Where are the rights for labourers?

Nonsense. Of course you should be protected from unfair dismissal from day one

BurntBroccoli · 27/11/2025 19:22

I think 6 months is fine. Two years was way too long and stopped me looking for a new job as I just couldn’t risk it being sole earner.

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PropertyD · 27/11/2025 19:20

KitTea3 · 27/11/2025 19:01

In case you're unfairly dismissed? 🤔 I mean it didn't used to be 2 years, I think it was previously one year and the Tories increased it.

Personally I wouldn't have minded that protection. The fact I assumed I would only have any kind of protection after completing 2 years service is why I wholly suffered for those 2 years too scared to tell anyone I was struggling and not at all coping (although in hindsight I know under disability discrimination would have still been a thing from day one). It was only after those 2 years had passed it felt safe enough to tell my employer I wasn't coping and actually as it happens they were more than happy to help

After 1 day though! It sounds ridiculous but am open to be persuaded why it was there in the first place?

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BlueJuniper94 · 27/11/2025 19:04

Yeah I don't know it was obvious this would u-turn. Really weird.

KitTea3 · 27/11/2025 19:01

In case you're unfairly dismissed? 🤔 I mean it didn't used to be 2 years, I think it was previously one year and the Tories increased it.

Personally I wouldn't have minded that protection. The fact I assumed I would only have any kind of protection after completing 2 years service is why I wholly suffered for those 2 years too scared to tell anyone I was struggling and not at all coping (although in hindsight I know under disability discrimination would have still been a thing from day one). It was only after those 2 years had passed it felt safe enough to tell my employer I wasn't coping and actually as it happens they were more than happy to help

devildeepbluesea · 27/11/2025 18:59

I’m an HR professional and all for workers rights but YANBU. Day 1 was a step too far, 6 months makes sense to me as it ties in with many probation periods.