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I got fired today!!

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Amiunemployable · 27/11/2025 17:31

I started a new job on 1st September.

I was given an offer of employment letter when I started but never received a contract.

Today I was fired. Apparently I've had too much time off and failed my probation.

They've said I've had eleven days off. By my tally it's six days. Not eleven. Two were caused by migraines with aura which I've never had before and my GP reckons it was highly likely to have been caused by my office lighting as the migraines only started after I got the job. And since i stopped using the overhead office lights, (i sourced my own alternative) I've been migraine free.

I know it's still a high amount to have had off but I recieved PIP for a disability that does unfortunately mean it's difficult for me sometimes to get to work. But I've done my best.

Have I got a leg to stand on here? I never received a contract. Was never informed of a probation period. To then be told I'd failed a probation period that I didn't know existed? I signed nothing that mentioned probation.

I wasn't offered an extension to the probation period or a improvement plan, etc. Just straight dismissal, with no prior warning, for failing a probation period I didn't know existed. And also told I've had 11 days off and I don't think it's been that many.

OP posts:
namestevalian · 28/11/2025 18:26

sweeneytoddsrazor · 27/11/2025 17:41

I would be called in for further investigation with 6 days off in 3 months and I have been in my current role 14 years

That's not true given you can self certify for a week ?

I don't know if who all of these inhumane companies are

Ohnobackagain · 28/11/2025 18:21

Richteabiscuit14 · 27/11/2025 22:21

@TheQuirkyMakerBecause she was ill? OP has already explained the reasons and none of them sound like taking the piss. 6 days is really not that much if there are genuine reasons, I don’t get all these responses. What was she meant to do, come in with a sickness bug or migraine and struggle to function/vomit everywhere?
Honestly this thread demonstrates why workplaces are so toxic, no wonder people prefer to stay on benefits than work (not saying the OP is doing that, just talking in general), you try your best and then are let go for being ill 🤷‍♀️

I agree - I’ve had to talk to someone about this kind of stuff in their probation. I’d expect to mention how too much sickness would look and ask if it was likely to be an on-going issue. Of course, a small business might have been panicky about the Dr/lights/migraine stuff but I’d expect to have said we might need to extend probation if things didn’t improve. Maybe they felt OP hadn’t been honest about disability - but sounds avoidable if they had discussed with @Amiunemployable and honestly it wouldn’t sit well with me to dismiss someone without trying to resolve it first and absolutely not out of the blue, that’s unnecessarily cold.

platinumanddiamonds · 28/11/2025 18:17

I think the law states your employer should give you a contract within two months. Also I imagine every job has a probation period. Maybe if you meet with them they would agree to extend your probation period.

Onthepage · 28/11/2025 18:15

So you start a new job, you then proceed to have a lot of time off, in the time you’ve been there. Looking at it from the employers perspective, as harsh as it seems, they can’t afford to employ you!

Doverboy · 28/11/2025 18:14

Amiunemployable · 27/11/2025 17:31

I started a new job on 1st September.

I was given an offer of employment letter when I started but never received a contract.

Today I was fired. Apparently I've had too much time off and failed my probation.

They've said I've had eleven days off. By my tally it's six days. Not eleven. Two were caused by migraines with aura which I've never had before and my GP reckons it was highly likely to have been caused by my office lighting as the migraines only started after I got the job. And since i stopped using the overhead office lights, (i sourced my own alternative) I've been migraine free.

I know it's still a high amount to have had off but I recieved PIP for a disability that does unfortunately mean it's difficult for me sometimes to get to work. But I've done my best.

Have I got a leg to stand on here? I never received a contract. Was never informed of a probation period. To then be told I'd failed a probation period that I didn't know existed? I signed nothing that mentioned probation.

I wasn't offered an extension to the probation period or a improvement plan, etc. Just straight dismissal, with no prior warning, for failing a probation period I didn't know existed. And also told I've had 11 days off and I don't think it's been that many.

No, your former employer dodged a bullet by placing you on probationary employment where you would have no accrued PTO or sick leave and you failed the test. You show missing 1 day per week since you started the position, you can only account for 6 of those days which is fair too many in the first 12 weeks of a job. Learn from it.

Isinglass20 · 28/11/2025 18:13

Just a thought. I suffer from headaches from overhead lighting especially strip lights. I believe you can get spectacles which might help or even a head shade. Many offices are poorly lit so going forward visit opticians and do your research.

Try and sort support for when your 7 year old is unwell so you don’t need to take time off.
You now know that you’re entitled to a written contract and at interview ask about length of probation period. Also whether the employer has a limited number days to be taken for illness before called in to discuss.

It’s tough out there so you need to do all you can to ensure you keep your next job.

dickiedavisthunderthighs · 28/11/2025 18:12

You say in your OP "...recieved PIP for a disability that does unfortunately mean it's difficult for me sometimes to get to work. But I have tried my best." If, in addition to your sickness and your child's sickness you've been late or absent from work on additional days, this will have been chalked up. You compounded that by not declaring your disability, so it will have looked like you were unreliable.

Hmm1234 · 28/11/2025 18:09

Amiunemployable · 27/11/2025 17:31

I started a new job on 1st September.

I was given an offer of employment letter when I started but never received a contract.

Today I was fired. Apparently I've had too much time off and failed my probation.

They've said I've had eleven days off. By my tally it's six days. Not eleven. Two were caused by migraines with aura which I've never had before and my GP reckons it was highly likely to have been caused by my office lighting as the migraines only started after I got the job. And since i stopped using the overhead office lights, (i sourced my own alternative) I've been migraine free.

I know it's still a high amount to have had off but I recieved PIP for a disability that does unfortunately mean it's difficult for me sometimes to get to work. But I've done my best.

Have I got a leg to stand on here? I never received a contract. Was never informed of a probation period. To then be told I'd failed a probation period that I didn't know existed? I signed nothing that mentioned probation.

I wasn't offered an extension to the probation period or a improvement plan, etc. Just straight dismissal, with no prior warning, for failing a probation period I didn't know existed. And also told I've had 11 days off and I don't think it's been that many.

you are too late!? Why didn’t you ask for help/ speak to the union/ HR/ Acas before the meeting with your employer? Surely they hold a meeting, take notes you can present any new evidence without just firing you

hcee19 · 28/11/2025 18:08

6 or 11 days off is excessive in such a short period of time. If you have difficulty with your disability you need to manage your time more effectively. I am disabled and work, it takes me three hours from waking up to leaving the house. I get up earlier than most so l am ready and on time. Do not use your disability as an excuse, you accepted the job

GlitteryRainbow · 28/11/2025 18:07

Contact ACAS, they are really helpful.

NewYorkie39 · 28/11/2025 18:06

What does your offer of employment letter say?

RavenhairedRachel · 28/11/2025 18:01

3 months is a normal probation period for an employee. I honestly think with the amount of days off you've had they had no choice. They were probably looking long term and unfortunately didn't think you were very reliable.

MellersSmellers · 28/11/2025 17:58

Sorry you've lost your job OP.
Its very odd that there is such a huge discrepancy in the record of sick days - surely you have some form of record and can challenge them.
I have to say though it's very unwise of you to have started working without a signed contract in place, and to let that continue to slip for a full 3 months. If it was a genuine admin oversight they would have readily addressed it if you'd raised it, and if not then you are well out of there.

PersephoneSmith · 28/11/2025 17:57

You say that you didn't know about the probation period OP, if you had known would your absence have been any better?

Dawnb19 · 28/11/2025 17:57

I'm sorry OP but that is a lot of time off. Even 6 days is more than most have off in a year. Could you not have taken paracetamol and put up with it? You said two days off for migraines, what were all the rest for? Were you meant to work some Saturdays but didn't turn up and that would make it up to the 11 days they are stating. If a member of staff is off that much during their promotion period I'd be nervous hiring them, as surely they would be off more when they are not on probation and have signed their contract.

Richteabiscuit14 · 28/11/2025 14:44

@GoodQueenWenceslausIn this case the boss appeared to be sympathetic and seemed ok with the absences at the time, so no, the person wouldn’t automatically assume it would endanger their job. A couple of months after I started my job I came down with a virus and my boss encouraged me to take time off to recover, even though I was still in the probation period. Not everybody works for a shit employer.

Richteabiscuit14 · 28/11/2025 14:40

@cooksbrandedclockIt’s not very clear if it was 6 separate occasions or 6 days in total. If someone has a sickness bug the medical advice is not to be in contact with people for 48 hours after the symptoms stop (and symptoms could be anything from a day to a few weeks), so 6 days off really isn’t very much at all. Being ill for a week isn’t being “unreliable”, it’s not like the person is just taking the time off for fun. Again, would you rather they came in with a vomiting bug?

mummytrex · 28/11/2025 12:38

@Wickedlittledancer at this point the OP has nothing to lose so there is no harm in a conversation taking place (regardless of classification) even if it focuses on settling the actual number of days she took given the disparity - OP saying six days vs employer stating eleven. Relevant as future employer is likely to ask how many days sick she has has in past 12 months.

Wickedlittledancer · 28/11/2025 12:29

mummytrex · 28/11/2025 12:18

Op in terms of your absence for your child's sickness you are entitled to 5 days (unpaid) for caring for a "dependent". ACAS guidance confirms this includes children.

www.gov.uk/carers-leave

Perhaps ask for a breakdown of the time they allege you've taken in the first instance to see if that reduces the number down? Also, Maybe see whether your son's sickness could be reclassified as the above detailed leave (would be unpaid unless they agree to pay to reduce sickness further? The problem with this is that even if you do, they may just look to let you go anyway at this point so keep looking for another job regardless.

They have already let her go, reclassifying her days off won’t suddenly make them re hire her, it’s done.

EarthSight · 28/11/2025 12:20

firstofallimadelight · 28/11/2025 06:21

I know, it was the fact it was 3 separate incidents. The best of it is it was a council role and I’d worked in the council for 3 years in a different position and transferred over. My holiday entitlement was transferred so really my employment status should have too. I hated the job though and didn’t want to be there so I didn’t fight it.

What this policy resulted in, in my Council workplace, was employees were effectively incentivised to take more time off than they actually needed, knowing that every occasion counted as a strike. I think that at ours, instances were weighted higher than number of days off.

We had one colleague that everyone suspected to be faking it taking 5-7 days off every year, knowing she could do that quite easily without being questioned. I could tell my boss felt awkward having to sit down either me or one of my other colleagues and having to ask us about the whole instances thing when our number of days off were so low, and our days off were preferable to having us come in and infect everyone with norovirus or flu.

mummytrex · 28/11/2025 12:18

Op in terms of your absence for your child's sickness you are entitled to 5 days (unpaid) for caring for a "dependent". ACAS guidance confirms this includes children.

www.gov.uk/carers-leave

Perhaps ask for a breakdown of the time they allege you've taken in the first instance to see if that reduces the number down? Also, Maybe see whether your son's sickness could be reclassified as the above detailed leave (would be unpaid unless they agree to pay to reduce sickness further? The problem with this is that even if you do, they may just look to let you go anyway at this point so keep looking for another job regardless.

Wickedlittledancer · 28/11/2025 11:47

Rosscameasdoody · 28/11/2025 11:29

I’m not disputing any of that, and have said several times that the OP’s absences don’t appear to be disability related, even if she had declared the disability in the first place. Where it is disability related, and the condition meets the definition of disability under the Equality Act, then proper procedures must be followed and alternative solutions to dismissal investigated before letting the employee go. That’s the law.

Of course, but the fact she’s never told them she’s got a disability kind of moots that, no?

Rosscameasdoody · 28/11/2025 11:29

KilkennyCats · 27/11/2025 20:21

Again, what is the point of giving someone the chance to “improve” their sickness absence levels?
The implication that it was all avoidable is clear, and that itself would probably have people screaming discrimination.
Op has had several months off in a previous position, and struggled to gain employment afterwards.
She knew 11 days in 12 weeks was too much.

I’m not disputing any of that, and have said several times that the OP’s absences don’t appear to be disability related, even if she had declared the disability in the first place. Where it is disability related, and the condition meets the definition of disability under the Equality Act, then proper procedures must be followed and alternative solutions to dismissal investigated before letting the employee go. That’s the law.

Wickedlittledancer · 28/11/2025 10:59

Pasly · 28/11/2025 10:50

How long was the probation period? It is normally 6 months so at this stage there should be a mid review meeting where you would advise that your probation may not be successful for.. (and set out the reasons) this gives you the opportunity to make changes, improve etc. Seems really unfair to not have warned you that this could be a possibility.

Edited

She already said she didn’t even know there was a probation period and probation is irrelvant, there is no employment rights before 2 years, the op worked there several weeks and took somewhere between 6 and 11 days off in that period, so they terminated,

Pasly · 28/11/2025 10:50

How long was the probation period? It is normally 6 months so at this stage there should be a mid review meeting where you would advise that your probation may not be successful for.. (and set out the reasons) this gives you the opportunity to make changes, improve etc. Seems really unfair to not have warned you that this could be a possibility.