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I got fired today!!

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Amiunemployable · 27/11/2025 17:31

I started a new job on 1st September.

I was given an offer of employment letter when I started but never received a contract.

Today I was fired. Apparently I've had too much time off and failed my probation.

They've said I've had eleven days off. By my tally it's six days. Not eleven. Two were caused by migraines with aura which I've never had before and my GP reckons it was highly likely to have been caused by my office lighting as the migraines only started after I got the job. And since i stopped using the overhead office lights, (i sourced my own alternative) I've been migraine free.

I know it's still a high amount to have had off but I recieved PIP for a disability that does unfortunately mean it's difficult for me sometimes to get to work. But I've done my best.

Have I got a leg to stand on here? I never received a contract. Was never informed of a probation period. To then be told I'd failed a probation period that I didn't know existed? I signed nothing that mentioned probation.

I wasn't offered an extension to the probation period or a improvement plan, etc. Just straight dismissal, with no prior warning, for failing a probation period I didn't know existed. And also told I've had 11 days off and I don't think it's been that many.

OP posts:
hattie43 · 27/11/2025 18:07

I believe you don’t have many rights as you’ve been there less than 2 weeks . You may have ‘ done your best ‘ but that doesn’t help your employer and colleagues .

HoskinsChoice · 27/11/2025 18:06

Amiunemployable · 27/11/2025 17:56

Look, i don't even know what I want here, but I've just lost my job right before Christmas. We're in a cost of living crisis, I've got a disability and a seven year old to support, and the job market is dire at the moment.

Hence my username - it took me months to get this job!

Some of my time off was due to the aura migraines caused by my office lights. Totally new for me.

Some other time was due to my son being poorly and having to look after him.

Another was a sickness bug.

All totally unfortunate but happened in quick succession.

In your first post you said, 'I receive PIP for a disability that does unfortunately mean it's difficult for me sometimes to get to work. But I've done my best.' Now all of a sudden its a bug and your son. Which is it?

jellybellyready · 27/11/2025 18:06

There's nothing you can do. You have took a huge amount of time off in a very short amount of time. They are well within their right to get rid of you as you are clearly unreliable. No employee would last in our workplace if they did what you did.

Redburnett · 27/11/2025 18:05

I think people are being a little unkind to the OP, it is always a shock to find you are suddenly not wanted, even if the reason is justifiable. In your case OP it would not be unreasonable to have expected return to work interviews or informal chats with your manager after each absence, and for the manager to have made clear that further absences could result in dismissal. If that didn't happen then it may be that the company would not have been a great one to work for in the long run.

Strictlycomeparent · 27/11/2025 18:05

If you had declared your disability then you might have been able to claim you were fired due to a protected characteristic. But even disability isn’t a free pass on time off. They probably have needed to show they tried reasonable adjustments before firing you though. Since you didn’t declare it, then unfortunately I don’t think you have any grounds.

turkeyboots · 27/11/2025 18:05

You should have had a written statement within 2 months of starting, but that doesn't help you anyway unfortunately, unless you can afford to taken them to a tribunal? But thats unlikely to get your job back.

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Puzzledandpissedoff · 27/11/2025 18:04

LasVegass · 27/11/2025 18:01

Even if you had declared a disability, how would that matter if you took time off for your ill child, or a sickness bug which have nothing to do with your disability.

Or, for that matter, for the migraines which OP said were due to the lighting and new, and therefore maybe not linked to the disability either?

WallaceinAnderland · 27/11/2025 18:03

You can't take sick leave for someone else's illness OP

Largestlegocollectionever · 27/11/2025 18:03

Probation period or not - they’re well within their rights to sack the OP.

People saying this is complex, go get advice, feel free to carry on but all you’re doing is wasting OP’s time in this and getting their hopes up.

OP has no legal recourse - probation period, contract, days off - all irrelevant.

The only thing that would have helped the OP would have been if they’d declared their disability or another protected characteristic.

NeverDropYourMooncup · 27/11/2025 18:01

Amiunemployable · 27/11/2025 17:56

Look, i don't even know what I want here, but I've just lost my job right before Christmas. We're in a cost of living crisis, I've got a disability and a seven year old to support, and the job market is dire at the moment.

Hence my username - it took me months to get this job!

Some of my time off was due to the aura migraines caused by my office lights. Totally new for me.

Some other time was due to my son being poorly and having to look after him.

Another was a sickness bug.

All totally unfortunate but happened in quick succession.

You didn't declare any disability, so you can't rely upon that as a getout. You've had multiple absences taking you out for at least 10% of your hours already.

Much as it sucks, the employer was right to terminate employment now.

ETA: they could have just as easily terminated your employment next week, Christmas, next April or whenever they wanted - and it could have just as easily been because they didn't like your laugh, the colour of your shoes or because there was an R in the month or they hadn't got enough chairs for a meeting.

LasVegass · 27/11/2025 18:01

EleanorReally · 27/11/2025 18:00

were they odd days or over 2 periods ?

Sounds like 3 separate periods.

LasVegass · 27/11/2025 18:01

Even if you had declared a disability, how would that matter if you took time off for your ill child, or a sickness bug which have nothing to do with your disability.

EleanorReally · 27/11/2025 18:00

were they odd days or over 2 periods ?

LIZS · 27/11/2025 17:59

Probation period is a red herring, as is lack of a formal contract as presumably you had a written offer. There are no specific protections or otherwise associated with probation although notice period may be shorter. You can ask how they have counted your absence, are there days you went home sick early perhaps? 6 over 12 weeks is still going to trigger absence policy though, did you have return to work reviews, follow the absence reporting process correctly, self certify etc? The reason to try to correct an error, if there was one, is for an accurate reference, not contest the decision.

TheatricalLife · 27/11/2025 17:59

I don't think anyone is unsympathetic towards you OP, they are giving honest advice. It's shit, and I'm really sorry, but truthfully there probably isn't anything you can do here. You could contact ACAS to ask, but you need to decide how much time to invest in this and what you want. It may be better to focus your efforts on moving forward and looking for something else more suited to you.
Very best of luck to you, I really hope you find something soon.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 27/11/2025 17:59

Rosscameasdoody · 27/11/2025 17:50

If you declared a disability to your employer and it’s covered by the Equality Act 2010 definition of disability, then your employer was obliged to offer reasonable adjustment to suit your disability. Quite how this would work if your migraines are not connected to the declared disability I’m not sure of. But one thing I do know is that disability is a protected characteristic under the Act and you have employment rights, including the option to sue for unfair dismissal, from day one. You really do need to get professional advice here - I would suggest you contact ACAS and explain the whole situation to them and they can advise accordingly.

This is broadly correct, except that OP's said she didn't declare the disability and employers can hardly make adjustments for something they know nothing about

In many ways OP might do better to concentrate on getting another job rather than hope for something that's unlikely to happen

Praying4Peace · 27/11/2025 17:57

Largestlegocollectionever · 27/11/2025 17:36

Yes they’re well within their rights
I can’t believe you’re actually questioning this. Even if you only had 6 days off and not 11 that’s still a huge amount in less than 3 months!
You would 100% fail probation at my work too. Oh and every job has a probation period doesn’t it? I’ve never joined a business and not expected one.
Contract is neither here nor there.

No, not every job has a probation period
OP needs legal advice as previously advised

Rosscameasdoody · 27/11/2025 17:57

HoskinsChoice · 27/11/2025 17:52

She didn't declare it therefore I don't think the company has any obligations to make reasonable adjustments.

If the disability is something that the employer could reasonably have suspected then there may be some protection available. There are rules around sick leave on probation periods and although employers are not allowed to ask directly about disability, they are allowed to voice suspicions that something may not be as it seems. ACAS is the best source of advice as it can be complicated.

ThereIsThunderInOurHearts · 27/11/2025 17:56

Speak to ACAS first thing tomorrow. Do not rely on advice here. You had a contract if they paid you, just not a visible one, so the contract isn't the issue.

Did you mention your disability to HR or your manager? You don't have to officially declare it but you might be able to prove that they were aware of it (a conversation about the lighting, perhaps?).

Amiunemployable · 27/11/2025 17:56

Look, i don't even know what I want here, but I've just lost my job right before Christmas. We're in a cost of living crisis, I've got a disability and a seven year old to support, and the job market is dire at the moment.

Hence my username - it took me months to get this job!

Some of my time off was due to the aura migraines caused by my office lights. Totally new for me.

Some other time was due to my son being poorly and having to look after him.

Another was a sickness bug.

All totally unfortunate but happened in quick succession.

OP posts:
MigGirl · 27/11/2025 17:55

Amiunemployable · 27/11/2025 17:47

They said I'd done a great job, but my level of time off was a concern, and thus, I'd failed probation and was given one week notice.

There's no employee handbook that I'm aware of. Nothing that's been given to me anyway.

And no, I didn't declare my disability.

This is your problem you didn't declare your disability. If you had before you started and your days off where mostly due to your disability you may have had some protection.

I have always declared mine or I know it won't be covered.

TBH they don't sound like a great place to work for anyway if they can't sort out your contract and inform you of their probation period. Which virtually all jobs have so I'm surprised you didn't expect one.

Rosscameasdoody · 27/11/2025 17:55

Amiunemployable · 27/11/2025 17:47

They said I'd done a great job, but my level of time off was a concern, and thus, I'd failed probation and was given one week notice.

There's no employee handbook that I'm aware of. Nothing that's been given to me anyway.

And no, I didn't declare my disability.

OP you are not entitled to protection for disability under the Equality Act 2010 unless you have declared your disability to your employer. That said, if your disability is something that your employer could reasonably have suspected and has not acted on, you may have a case. Contact ACAS, they can advise.

PrincessofWells · 27/11/2025 17:55

Speak to ACAS. There may be unfair dismissal around protected characteristics.

HelpMySocksAreTouchingMe · 27/11/2025 17:54

If you didn’t declare your disability I don’t think you have a leg to stand on sorry OP, I would throw myself into looking elsewhere and let them know what adjustments you might need when you join.

Isekaied · 27/11/2025 17:52

Amiunemployable · 27/11/2025 17:43

I understand the time off is high. I've acknowledged that. I also understand that it's perfectly reasonable as grounds for dismissal.

What I'm disputing is, firstly, the number of days. I believe it's 6, not 11. Secondly, I never received a contract of employment, nor was I made aware, either written or verbally, that there was a probation period or what length it was. So, the first I've heard of the probation is when I'm being told I'd failed it.

It was an office based admin role.

I don't think you've got any comeback.

You didn't declare your disability.

And it's only been a few months since you started.

They can pretty much use any excuse at this point. It doesn't matter if you hadn't taken any time off at all.