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I got fired today!!

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Amiunemployable · 27/11/2025 17:31

I started a new job on 1st September.

I was given an offer of employment letter when I started but never received a contract.

Today I was fired. Apparently I've had too much time off and failed my probation.

They've said I've had eleven days off. By my tally it's six days. Not eleven. Two were caused by migraines with aura which I've never had before and my GP reckons it was highly likely to have been caused by my office lighting as the migraines only started after I got the job. And since i stopped using the overhead office lights, (i sourced my own alternative) I've been migraine free.

I know it's still a high amount to have had off but I recieved PIP for a disability that does unfortunately mean it's difficult for me sometimes to get to work. But I've done my best.

Have I got a leg to stand on here? I never received a contract. Was never informed of a probation period. To then be told I'd failed a probation period that I didn't know existed? I signed nothing that mentioned probation.

I wasn't offered an extension to the probation period or a improvement plan, etc. Just straight dismissal, with no prior warning, for failing a probation period I didn't know existed. And also told I've had 11 days off and I don't think it's been that many.

OP posts:
KilkennyCats · 27/11/2025 18:19

Amiunemployable · 27/11/2025 18:16

Look, I'm not actually looking to take this further or go to a tribunal or anything. I don't have that kind of fight in me.

I'm just worried about what I'm going to do going forward.

And yeah, I'm a bit annoyed that there was no contract, no mention of probation, no warnings. No back to work meetings after absences to discuss, etc. They were very happy with my work, and my time off hasn't been mentioned before today. As I said, there were no warnings, no discussions. It just feels shitty. No opportunities to improve and keep my job, etc.

And yeah, I'm a bit annoyed that there was no contract, no mention of probation, no warnings. No back to work meetings after absences to discuss, etc.
Unless these things would have deterred you from taking any more time off, how is any of it relevant?

hattie43 · 27/11/2025 18:18

AngelicKaty · 27/11/2025 18:10

You mean OP's been there fewer than two years.

Yes I do , two years .

MassiveOvaryaction · 27/11/2025 18:18

Are you part time? Or were you off over a weekend? Apparently non working days count too.
Did you request annual leave or emergency carers leave when you needed to look after your child?
I would have declared a disability if I knew there were days when I might struggle to make it in, they may have been more sympathetic then.

It does suck though and I'm sorry it happened to you.

EleanorReally · 27/11/2025 18:18

LittlePurpleTeapot · 27/11/2025 18:15

I thought the two year rule had been changed so that employees had full rights from day 1?

that has been back tracked, today

Lochroy · 27/11/2025 18:18

Sorry you’ve had such a tough time of it. I do think the disability and lack of knowledge of probation are irrelevant though. The harsh facts are that you’ve had an extremely high amount of time off in a very short space of time and are likely deemed an unreliable employee. Unfortunately they’ve done what most sensible employers would do and ask you to leave before any more work is missed.

i expect legally if you’ve had an offer, turned up, and been paid then you do effectively have a contract, but they have now legitimately terminated it.

Pricelessadvice · 27/11/2025 18:18

Was anything emailed to you? Or where you pointed in the direction of where to access staff handbooks on an online system?

That said, you can’t expect anyone to keep you on if you’ve taken 6 days off since September.

Whitetopaz1 · 27/11/2025 18:17

LittlePurpleTeapot · 27/11/2025 18:15

I thought the two year rule had been changed so that employees had full rights from day 1?

No. That proposal (which is all it was) has literally just been dropped today. A six month period before rights against full dismissal will be in included in the forthcoming Employee Rights Act (assuming it passes in that form)

Rosscameasdoody · 27/11/2025 18:17

Puzzledandpissedoff · 27/11/2025 17:59

This is broadly correct, except that OP's said she didn't declare the disability and employers can hardly make adjustments for something they know nothing about

In many ways OP might do better to concentrate on getting another job rather than hope for something that's unlikely to happen

If an employer could reasonably have suspected a disability or a health condition then there is some comeback, because they have a duty to act on any such suspicions and ensure that the employee is supported. The rules around it are complicated - employees are not duty bound to declare a disability and although employers aren’t expected to be clairvoyant, if there are any signs that an employee is struggling then the employer had a duty to enquire as to whether they need help. In OP’s case the number of days off could be considered a clear sign that something was amiss and the employer hasn’t acted on it - they’ve just waited it out until they could fire her. ACAS are the people who can advise here.

EleanorReally · 27/11/2025 18:17

i got fired after almost a year some time ago
pick yourself up
join an agency
put it behind you

all the best people are fired at some point in life - in fact i have lost 3 jobs starting with my paper round Blush

RiderOfTheBlue · 27/11/2025 18:16

LittlePurpleTeapot · 27/11/2025 18:15

I thought the two year rule had been changed so that employees had full rights from day 1?

Nah they were planning to do this but it's the latest in a long line of u turns from this shambles of a government.

Amiunemployable · 27/11/2025 18:16

Look, I'm not actually looking to take this further or go to a tribunal or anything. I don't have that kind of fight in me.

I'm just worried about what I'm going to do going forward.

And yeah, I'm a bit annoyed that there was no contract, no mention of probation, no warnings. No back to work meetings after absences to discuss, etc. They were very happy with my work, and my time off hasn't been mentioned before today. As I said, there were no warnings, no discussions. It just feels shitty. No opportunities to improve and keep my job, etc.

OP posts:
cannynotsay · 27/11/2025 18:16

LittlePurpleTeapot · 27/11/2025 18:15

I thought the two year rule had been changed so that employees had full rights from day 1?

There’s been a u-turn on that today

cannynotsay · 27/11/2025 18:15

You’re just gonna have to accept you’ve been fired and lost this job sweet, it is what it is sadly. Now time to move on, put on your big girl knickers and brave face as you mama have a Christmas to pull off. There’s help out there, and next time declare your Disabilities so you’re protected. You’re going to get through this. You’re going to be ok. You’ve survived child birth you can survive this x

LittlePurpleTeapot · 27/11/2025 18:15

I thought the two year rule had been changed so that employees had full rights from day 1?

PluckyChancer · 27/11/2025 18:14

Forget posting here as you’ll get all sorts of nonsense replies based on zero legal knowledge.

You need to speak to an employment lawyer as you have a disability and your employer may have acted unlawfully by sacking you without following the correct procedures.

Pollqueen · 27/11/2025 18:14

Im a lawyer, but have only dipped a brief toe in employment law. Were your employers aware of your disabilities OP? I do know you have more protection with recognised disabilities. Not sure if this covers you in the probation period or within the 2 year time frame but, if your emloyers were aware, it may be worth a call to ACAS

CastleCrasher · 27/11/2025 18:13

Was some of your sick over weekends? In some employers they count absence over a weekend as sick days even though they are non working days - so sick Friday and Monday would be four days, not two. (Is not as unfair as it sounds, it is taken into account in the wider policy), but if you were to ask how many sick days a person had, it may be higher than the number of work days missed die to sickness, if that makes sense.

Heyhelga · 27/11/2025 18:13

That's quite a lot of days off since September in a new job. Being off sick during probation should always be avoided where possible.

tramtracks · 27/11/2025 18:13

Amiunemployable · 27/11/2025 17:43

I understand the time off is high. I've acknowledged that. I also understand that it's perfectly reasonable as grounds for dismissal.

What I'm disputing is, firstly, the number of days. I believe it's 6, not 11. Secondly, I never received a contract of employment, nor was I made aware, either written or verbally, that there was a probation period or what length it was. So, the first I've heard of the probation is when I'm being told I'd failed it.

It was an office based admin role.

I suspect they may have more reasons that just sick absence days.
Sometimes the fit of employee to employee just isn’t quite right. This is what the probation period is for. It works both ways - you could walk out without notice and vice versa.

HoskinsChoice · 27/11/2025 18:11

Redburnett · 27/11/2025 18:05

I think people are being a little unkind to the OP, it is always a shock to find you are suddenly not wanted, even if the reason is justifiable. In your case OP it would not be unreasonable to have expected return to work interviews or informal chats with your manager after each absence, and for the manager to have made clear that further absences could result in dismissal. If that didn't happen then it may be that the company would not have been a great one to work for in the long run.

Surely we are not babying staff so much that we are obliged to tell them that if they don't turn up, they won't keep their job? That's just common sense isn't it?

AngelicKaty · 27/11/2025 18:10

hattie43 · 27/11/2025 18:07

I believe you don’t have many rights as you’ve been there less than 2 weeks . You may have ‘ done your best ‘ but that doesn’t help your employer and colleagues .

You mean OP's been there fewer than two years.

Wickedlittledancer · 27/11/2025 18:09

Op you have no employment rights before 2 years and they can fire you for any reason as long as not discriminatory. As you didn’t declare a disability it would be difficult to prove they fired you as you’re disabled, it does feel like they terminated due to time off. I think as sad as it is, you need to accept this one, an tribunal will be complex and difficult to win, and they aren’t going to take you back

focus on finding some new employment.

KilkennyCats · 27/11/2025 18:08

Strictlycomeparent · 27/11/2025 18:05

If you had declared your disability then you might have been able to claim you were fired due to a protected characteristic. But even disability isn’t a free pass on time off. They probably have needed to show they tried reasonable adjustments before firing you though. Since you didn’t declare it, then unfortunately I don’t think you have any grounds.

Declaring a disability isn’t a blanket protection against being fired?!
At least two of the three sickness periods (and very possibly all three) were unrelated to any disability op may have.

RiderOfTheBlue · 27/11/2025 18:08

I don't think you should waste your time trying to fight this. You'd be better off putting your energy into looking for another job. Best of luck.

FortnumsWeddingBreakfastTeaPlease · 27/11/2025 18:07

Amiunemployable · 27/11/2025 17:43

I understand the time off is high. I've acknowledged that. I also understand that it's perfectly reasonable as grounds for dismissal.

What I'm disputing is, firstly, the number of days. I believe it's 6, not 11. Secondly, I never received a contract of employment, nor was I made aware, either written or verbally, that there was a probation period or what length it was. So, the first I've heard of the probation is when I'm being told I'd failed it.

It was an office based admin role.

I understand the time off is high. I've acknowledged that. I also understand that it's perfectly reasonable as grounds for dismissal.

Then kindly, what is your problem? You're clearly after a claim up through technicality even though you acknowledge dismissal after your performance is perfectly reasonable.

In your own words it was perfectly reasonable for you to be fired. So who cares how long your probation is/was? You'd have failed regardless, but you're seeking anything that might help you get a payout by not being presented with certain documents. Even though you'd have been fired just the same.

Have some pride. You aren't going to get a claim out of this, and maybe look for some WFH roles if you genuinely can't turn up for 11 days in the first 3 months.