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I got fired today!!

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Amiunemployable · 27/11/2025 17:31

I started a new job on 1st September.

I was given an offer of employment letter when I started but never received a contract.

Today I was fired. Apparently I've had too much time off and failed my probation.

They've said I've had eleven days off. By my tally it's six days. Not eleven. Two were caused by migraines with aura which I've never had before and my GP reckons it was highly likely to have been caused by my office lighting as the migraines only started after I got the job. And since i stopped using the overhead office lights, (i sourced my own alternative) I've been migraine free.

I know it's still a high amount to have had off but I recieved PIP for a disability that does unfortunately mean it's difficult for me sometimes to get to work. But I've done my best.

Have I got a leg to stand on here? I never received a contract. Was never informed of a probation period. To then be told I'd failed a probation period that I didn't know existed? I signed nothing that mentioned probation.

I wasn't offered an extension to the probation period or a improvement plan, etc. Just straight dismissal, with no prior warning, for failing a probation period I didn't know existed. And also told I've had 11 days off and I don't think it's been that many.

OP posts:
GAJLY · 27/11/2025 18:36

It's probation, they can get rid of you for anything. It's to see if you're a good fit and you perform well. 6/11 sick days is quite alot! I'd such it up and try better with the next job.

MyrtleLion · 27/11/2025 18:35

Amiunemployable · 27/11/2025 18:22

And yeah, I'm shit scared and worried. I've lost my job. I've got a disability and a seven year old (with autism) with no childcare help. That makes getting another job in an already dire job market pretty hard.

I've never had to claim benefits before. Claiming for PIP earlier this year is the first time I've ever applied for a benefit, and I could have been claiming it for years before now. I've always worked since I left school at seventeen. I even went to Uni as a mature student and got a degree to try and better my prospects, and now here I am. Fucking fired. And fucking scared about the future.

You are entitled to a written statement of particulars on day one and within 2 months of starting. This is not a contract but your contract will have been implied.

https://www.gov.uk/employment-contracts-and-conditions/written-statement-of-employment-particulars

The employer must provide the principal statement on the first day of employment and the wider written statement within 2 months of the start of employment.

You have the right to unpaid time off for family emergencies from day one, so you should not have used sickness days for that.

Talk to ACAE because you may be able to say to your employer that they should give you a month's notice because they are in breach of their obligations to you.

I know getting a job is hard, but you really don't want to work for a shyster like this.

And join a union. They will argue this sort of thing for you if it happens again.

Employment contracts

A contract is an agreement between employee and employer setting out implied and explicit terms and conditions - written statement of particulars, collective agreements

https://www.gov.uk/employment-contracts-and-conditions/written-statement-of-employment-particulars

66babe · 27/11/2025 18:35

If there is a probation to pass then you would have been provided competencies , a discussion around the expectation of role and how you achieve each skill required . Probation is about being able to demonstrate how you are able to complete the job , how you fit into the team and how reliable you are .

Shutuptrevor · 27/11/2025 18:34

You’re being very vague about the number and nature of your absences, OP. Why is that?

Supermarkets and big retailers are hiring atm, i’d try them.

Needacupofteaandcrackers · 27/11/2025 18:34

I think some kindness in the work place is due. Migraines are awful and you might be able to pop a couple of pills lie down for 30mins if you work from home. But no caring or understanding when in person everyday. My daughter fainted on the tube this morning, stuffy and hot made her feel sick wouldn’t have happened if allowed to wfh.

Balloonhearts · 27/11/2025 18:34

You didn't declare your disability so you can't claim discrimination on those grounds. Outside of protected characteristics you have no rights as a new employee and since you didn't have a contract, you don't even have that to argue. There is no paper evidence that they even took you on at all. I wouldn't waste your time or energy on this when you need it for finding another job.

Rosscameasdoody · 27/11/2025 18:34

OP there’s some shit advice on here from posters who have clearly no experience of or empathy for disability, and how hard it can make finding and retaining employment. There is even less grasp of the law surrounding disability in the workplace.

Even if you didn’t declare your disability to your employer, so much time off within a short space of time could be considered to have been enough of a red flag for them to enquire as to whether you needed support. Instead of intervening in a timely manner, they appear to have waited it out until they could fire you. If there are grounds to think that the employer could reasonably have suspected a disability or health condition then it doesn’t matter whether you declared it or not. You need to ditch this thread and contact ACAS for proper, balanced advice as to your next step and whether or not you have a case for unfair dismissal.

Soontobe60 · 27/11/2025 18:32

Amiunemployable · 27/11/2025 17:43

I understand the time off is high. I've acknowledged that. I also understand that it's perfectly reasonable as grounds for dismissal.

What I'm disputing is, firstly, the number of days. I believe it's 6, not 11. Secondly, I never received a contract of employment, nor was I made aware, either written or verbally, that there was a probation period or what length it was. So, the first I've heard of the probation is when I'm being told I'd failed it.

It was an office based admin role.

Employers have responsibilities when it comes to the workforce but employees also have responsibilities. Their responsibility is to provide you with a contract - your responsibility is to chase up the lack of contract even before your first day at work.

SaySomethingMan · 27/11/2025 18:31

OP Im wishing you all the best in
finding another role soon. One that will support you. Sorry you’ve lost your job at this time.

ClareBlue · 27/11/2025 18:29

LittlePurpleTeapot · 27/11/2025 18:15

I thought the two year rule had been changed so that employees had full rights from day 1?

Very topical as it has just been announced this is not going to be the case despite it being part of the election promises and manifesto for years. Sticking with a probation before these rights kick in.

Sidebeforeself · 27/11/2025 18:29

If you can take anything from this experience OP , make sure you speak up for your rights at the beginning. Dont accept no contract etc, ask questions, tell them about what support you need. Be your own advocate.

HoskinsChoice · 27/11/2025 18:28

Amiunemployable · 27/11/2025 18:22

And yeah, I'm shit scared and worried. I've lost my job. I've got a disability and a seven year old (with autism) with no childcare help. That makes getting another job in an already dire job market pretty hard.

I've never had to claim benefits before. Claiming for PIP earlier this year is the first time I've ever applied for a benefit, and I could have been claiming it for years before now. I've always worked since I left school at seventeen. I even went to Uni as a mature student and got a degree to try and better my prospects, and now here I am. Fucking fired. And fucking scared about the future.

What is your husband doing to help with childcare? And, given you were just a couple of weeks into a new job and had to take so much time off sick for yourself, why didn't your husband stay at home to look after your sick child?

PatThePenguin · 27/11/2025 18:28

"And also told I've had 11 days off and I don't think it's been that many."

"What I'm disputing is, firstly, the number of days. I believe it's 6, not 11."

You don't think it's been that many and you believe it's 6, not 11.

You don't sound very certain?

Abracadabra12 · 27/11/2025 18:27

Sorry to hear this OP, it’s truly rubbish timing. Hope you’re feeling ok x

OhYesWeAre · 27/11/2025 18:27

Amiunemployable · 27/11/2025 18:22

And yeah, I'm shit scared and worried. I've lost my job. I've got a disability and a seven year old (with autism) with no childcare help. That makes getting another job in an already dire job market pretty hard.

I've never had to claim benefits before. Claiming for PIP earlier this year is the first time I've ever applied for a benefit, and I could have been claiming it for years before now. I've always worked since I left school at seventeen. I even went to Uni as a mature student and got a degree to try and better my prospects, and now here I am. Fucking fired. And fucking scared about the future.

OP, the welfare state is here to support people. You have been doing your best, and now you need some help.

I would get on to the Universal Credit people ASAP.

Blowing · 27/11/2025 18:26

I am sorry, OP. I hope you can get some kind of Temp job maybe over the Christmas period. It sounds very stressful. In future keep a clear record of the days off that you take in case of situations like this.

Sidebeforeself · 27/11/2025 18:25

I don’t think they are. There’s no point encouraging OP to feel aggrieved when it’s highly unlikely anything can be done.

FortnumsWeddingBreakfastTeaPlease · 27/11/2025 18:25

Amiunemployable · 27/11/2025 18:16

Look, I'm not actually looking to take this further or go to a tribunal or anything. I don't have that kind of fight in me.

I'm just worried about what I'm going to do going forward.

And yeah, I'm a bit annoyed that there was no contract, no mention of probation, no warnings. No back to work meetings after absences to discuss, etc. They were very happy with my work, and my time off hasn't been mentioned before today. As I said, there were no warnings, no discussions. It just feels shitty. No opportunities to improve and keep my job, etc.

No, sorry that's not on.

How do you "improve" time off? Either you're sick/prevented from coming in or you're not. It's not something you can improve. Or if it is, then you simply chose not to make the effort to turn up when you could have done. And that was noticed.

StewkeyBlue · 27/11/2025 18:23

OP, really sorry, this must be horrible after you had looked for a job for so long and thought you were sorted.

I think people are focussing on rights and wrongs because this is AIBU and it seems as if you are asking was it U that you were fired.

Do talk to ACAS, ask if you can declare your disability retrospectively, for example,

Did you give them your GO’s opinion that the lights caused the migraine?

Could you also ask if 6 days would have caused this? If it would, the difference between 6 and 11 maybe isn’t relevant. Can you ask for a list of the 11 alleged days?

So sorry, this must be extremely stressful and upsetting.

Butterflyfluff · 27/11/2025 18:23

No opportunities to improve and keep my job etc

What would you have done differently?

You either needed the time off or you didn’t.

Jollyhockeystickss · 27/11/2025 18:22

KilkennyCats · 27/11/2025 17:45

You failed probation by demonstrating that you couldn’t actually show up and do the job, op.
Sorry to be harsh, but it sounds like that pattern of attendance was unlikely to be radically different going forward?

"it's difficult for me sometimes to get to work. But I've done my best.!! " i feel like this every day but unfortunately i need a job

Amiunemployable · 27/11/2025 18:22

And yeah, I'm shit scared and worried. I've lost my job. I've got a disability and a seven year old (with autism) with no childcare help. That makes getting another job in an already dire job market pretty hard.

I've never had to claim benefits before. Claiming for PIP earlier this year is the first time I've ever applied for a benefit, and I could have been claiming it for years before now. I've always worked since I left school at seventeen. I even went to Uni as a mature student and got a degree to try and better my prospects, and now here I am. Fucking fired. And fucking scared about the future.

OP posts:
jellybellyready · 27/11/2025 18:22

Amiunemployable · 27/11/2025 18:16

Look, I'm not actually looking to take this further or go to a tribunal or anything. I don't have that kind of fight in me.

I'm just worried about what I'm going to do going forward.

And yeah, I'm a bit annoyed that there was no contract, no mention of probation, no warnings. No back to work meetings after absences to discuss, etc. They were very happy with my work, and my time off hasn't been mentioned before today. As I said, there were no warnings, no discussions. It just feels shitty. No opportunities to improve and keep my job, etc.

Why didn't you ask for your contract when you started? Yes they should of gave you one but why didn't you ask for one too?

Puzzledandpissedoff · 27/11/2025 18:20

LittlePurpleTeapot · 27/11/2025 18:15

I thought the two year rule had been changed so that employees had full rights from day 1?

It's literally just been announced that the government have decided against this, and that instead the protection will reduce from 2 years to 6 months ...

MidnightColours · 27/11/2025 18:20

OP, no doubt you came on here for a little support and empathy. It's very unfortunate some contributors have decided you are not deserving of the sort of solidarity displayed on more trivial posts and frankly it's turning into a bit of a pile on. The situation was clearly not managed very well by your employer and it's very tough to be let go so close to Xmas. And now people on here sound like you've let everyone down in a major way and are looking for a quick buck (it's a mystery what it's to them, but anyway). I really wish you and your DC the very best. Hopefully having this job on your CV will help with getting the next job quicker this time.