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I got fired today!!

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Amiunemployable · 27/11/2025 17:31

I started a new job on 1st September.

I was given an offer of employment letter when I started but never received a contract.

Today I was fired. Apparently I've had too much time off and failed my probation.

They've said I've had eleven days off. By my tally it's six days. Not eleven. Two were caused by migraines with aura which I've never had before and my GP reckons it was highly likely to have been caused by my office lighting as the migraines only started after I got the job. And since i stopped using the overhead office lights, (i sourced my own alternative) I've been migraine free.

I know it's still a high amount to have had off but I recieved PIP for a disability that does unfortunately mean it's difficult for me sometimes to get to work. But I've done my best.

Have I got a leg to stand on here? I never received a contract. Was never informed of a probation period. To then be told I'd failed a probation period that I didn't know existed? I signed nothing that mentioned probation.

I wasn't offered an extension to the probation period or a improvement plan, etc. Just straight dismissal, with no prior warning, for failing a probation period I didn't know existed. And also told I've had 11 days off and I don't think it's been that many.

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Amiunemployable · 27/11/2025 21:42

KilkennyCats · 27/11/2025 21:38

What sort of lights are they, op? The usual office fluorescent ones?
Have you never worked anywhere with similar before?
Odd that your gp could be so certain they were the cause.

She wasn't certain. I said she thought it LIKELY they COULD be the cause. That combined with going from a non-screen based role to screen based. (Haven't done a screen based role in five years)

But as I said, once I switched to a desk lamp rather than the overhead lights, my migraines stopped. Could be a coincidence. Couldn't say for sure. But personally suspect, as does my GP, that the lights and screen were the issue.

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CandyCaneKisses · 27/11/2025 21:40

6 days is still very high for a role you started in September.

TheLemonLemur · 27/11/2025 21:39

When you have been at a job less than 2 years you can pretty much be let go for any reason. We employed a great temp who had lots of days sick. At the end of initial period we had more work for her but next day called in sick again. So my boss didnt extend the contract temp got angry and said if she knew contract would be ended she would have come in. Totally bizarre. In a new job you really want to make a good impression and minimise absence

Amiunemployable · 27/11/2025 21:39

Oh, and for more clarity.

My partner does do his fair share. He was made redundant recently, so he is also in a relatively new job. He earns far more than me, so arguably more important to keep his job, but he has also had time off with our son.

In a previous role, as a PP pointed out, after advanced searching me, I did have to have a few months off. I was working as a TA and loved it but sadly had very toxic management, which led to stress and burn out. Was also related to my disability. Was in regular contact with GP. Occupational health, management meetings, etc. All aware of my disability.

Took me months to recover. And when I finally quit, took me months more to find a new job.

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RoamingToaster · 27/11/2025 21:38

I understand employers don’t want people off sick but I think it’s sometimes just bad luck. I mean do you want people turning up who struggle to function because they’re so ill?

KilkennyCats · 27/11/2025 21:38

What sort of lights are they, op? The usual office fluorescent ones?
Have you never worked anywhere with similar before?
Odd that your gp could be so certain they were the cause.

B1anche · 27/11/2025 21:32

TryingAgainAgainAgain · 27/11/2025 21:26

I think it’s a slightly passive-aggressive ‘you did query this at the first possible opportunity, didn’t you’ dig from that poster. So many rather unpleasant know-it-all posters on this thread.

Yes, I see this a lot on MN.

Amiunemployable · 27/11/2025 21:32

Thanks to everyone who has sent kind messages. They're much appreciated.

Just to clarify a few things, I came down with my first migraine whilst at work. It was scary as I had never had something like that happen before. After the third instance, I arrange a doctors appointment. My manager knew about all of this. I explained to my GP that I'd recently started a new job and wondered whether the lights could have caused it. She thought very much so. I told my boss. He didn't do anything, so I took in a table lamp from home. Kept the overhead lights off and just used my lamp. (I had my own office, so it didn't affect anyone else). Haven't had a migraine since.

When my child was sick, I called in and let my boss know I wouldn't be in as my son was sick. He asked me the following day if my son was better.

The sickness bug, couldn't do anything about that. Just one of those things.

In fact for every absence my boss seemed understanding as he had recently been dealing with health problems of his own and is also a parent of young children. So, always seemed understanding. Never mentioned any issues until today when he dismissed me for it.

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TryingAgainAgainAgain · 27/11/2025 21:26

B1anche · 27/11/2025 21:15

Where did you read that she asked them about her contract in September?

I think it’s a slightly passive-aggressive ‘you did query this at the first possible opportunity, didn’t you’ dig from that poster. So many rather unpleasant know-it-all posters on this thread.

NoSoapJustUseShowerGel · 27/11/2025 21:26

Amiunemployable · 27/11/2025 17:56

Look, i don't even know what I want here, but I've just lost my job right before Christmas. We're in a cost of living crisis, I've got a disability and a seven year old to support, and the job market is dire at the moment.

Hence my username - it took me months to get this job!

Some of my time off was due to the aura migraines caused by my office lights. Totally new for me.

Some other time was due to my son being poorly and having to look after him.

Another was a sickness bug.

All totally unfortunate but happened in quick succession.

Could you not have got your son’s other parent to look after him rather than take time off work? I’d do anything to avoid taking time off when I’d just started a new job as it doesn’t create a good impression about your reliability.

AmberRose86 · 27/11/2025 21:24

Where are people getting this “there is always a probationary period” from?!

You can choose to put a probationary period into an employee’s contract but it’s really about managing expectations more than anything. It doesn’t give the employer more rights to dismiss you. It doesn’t actually mean anything at all in law. They can dismiss you at any point within the first two years with no process and no reason (unless that dismissal is because of a protected characteristic - there is no two-year qualifying period for discrimination claims).

Friendlyfart · 27/11/2025 21:19

This all sounds odd.
if in an office role there’s always a 3-month probation even if not explicitly stated.
6 or 11 days off is a massive amount, so it’s no surprise.

cooksbrandedclock · 27/11/2025 21:19

I am sad for you that you have lost your job. As an employer, if, in under 3 months of starting work, my employee had 6 days off sick - they would have proven to me that they are unreliable. There is no history to say otherwise. My business cannot afford to sustain unreliability, and so I would be letting you go too.

If, after letting you go, you came back at me with details you did not previously disclose … for what reason are you disclosing them after the fact? I would be thinking to myself that I am so glad I let you go, because you would have become a nightmare.

I truly hope you find something that is more suited to your personal circumstances, where you can negotiate time off for childcare, and you declare your protected characteristics so that reasonable adjustments can be put in place.

B1anche · 27/11/2025 21:15

FloridaCheese · 27/11/2025 21:07

Why did you continue to work there for 3 months without a contract. What was the plan /timeline for receiving your contract when you asked them back in September.

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Where did you read that she asked them about her contract in September?

BurnoutGP · 27/11/2025 21:14

The fact that youre already blaming it on the "office/lighting" a disability that you didn't declare blah blah is a big red flag. We would not have kept you on either. It doesn't bode well. Move on.

Bobloblawww · 27/11/2025 21:14

TBH if I hired someone who had a day off every fortnight, complained about the lighting, and had a disability they didn’t declare, I would probably want to offload them too.

FloridaCheese · 27/11/2025 21:07

Why did you continue to work there for 3 months without a contract. What was the plan /timeline for receiving your contract when you asked them back in September.

Psipsinas · 27/11/2025 21:02

Have you taken days off sick before and after a weekend ie Friday , then the Monday after ? In this case your employer may be counting the weekend as sick days.

osloslow · 27/11/2025 20:59

Rosscameasdoody · 27/11/2025 17:50

If you declared a disability to your employer and it’s covered by the Equality Act 2010 definition of disability, then your employer was obliged to offer reasonable adjustment to suit your disability. Quite how this would work if your migraines are not connected to the declared disability I’m not sure of. But one thing I do know is that disability is a protected characteristic under the Act and you have employment rights, including the option to sue for unfair dismissal, from day one. You really do need to get professional advice here - I would suggest you contact ACAS and explain the whole situation to them and they can advise accordingly.

The OP didn’t declare the disability.

MyBrightPeer · 27/11/2025 20:54

KilliMonjaro · 27/11/2025 20:26

This is absolutely not true! We have employed someone who has been off for months due to a bereavement during probation. They have a lot more rights due to this than anyone else say the HR advisors. They are a vital role for our organisation and them not being functional is actually extremely hazardous for us financially right now.
They have come back to work but are not performing up to standard. It’s a bloody nightmare.

I would get some new advisors…

KilkennyCats · 27/11/2025 20:43

KilliMonjaro · 27/11/2025 20:39

It’s about them being treated fairly and sensitivity apparently. I’m not saying I agree with it!

I think your HR Dept. need retraining if they think this is mandatory in the name of fairness and sensitivity.

TryingAgainAgainAgain · 27/11/2025 20:42

Two were caused by migraines with aura which I've never had before and my GP reckons it was highly likely to have been caused by my office lighting as the migraines only started after I got the job. And since i stopped using the overhead office lights, (i sourced my own alternative) I've been migraine free.

Surely there should have been some discussion about OP getting migraines which appeared to be triggered by the office lighting? Doesn't the employer have some responsibility to follow up on that? And OP had provided alternative lights herself which shows motivation to avoid repeat issues.

Plus there should have been a brief chat about how to deal with time off due to a sick child - how that should be documented, ie not as sick days?

KilkennyCats · 27/11/2025 20:41

Duckishness · 27/11/2025 20:35

Despite you having all this knowledge of employment law, do you have evidence of requesting any of this?

Or concept of what would have enabled you to “improve and keep your job”?
You claim they were happy with your work, when you were actually there.

KilliMonjaro · 27/11/2025 20:39

KilkennyCats · 27/11/2025 20:29

What rights do you have to take months off work after a bereavement?

It’s about them being treated fairly and sensitivity apparently. I’m not saying I agree with it!

Notashamed13 · 27/11/2025 20:38

Why didnt you declare your disability? It's a protected characteristic that could have stopped all this?

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