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Not heard you mentioning this Rachel?

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Lazyusername · 27/11/2025 16:06

AIBU to think this is absolutely outrageous.

https://x.com/LaraInCornwall/status/1993749174404444230

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Dreamtitchy · 27/11/2025 16:38

Southernecho · 27/11/2025 16:37

This is hilarious, you start a thread about massive increases in business rates but never checked your Business rates first?

What business are you in?

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Oh man! 😆

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Lazyusername · 27/11/2025 16:37

Dreamtitchy · 27/11/2025 16:35

Or that businesses didn’t set aside money knowing rates would eventually increase sharply

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You are talking about business rates relief. The thread I posted is about business rates revaluations.

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Dreamtitchy · 27/11/2025 16:37

Lazyusername · 27/11/2025 16:35

So you feel that the fact that small traders rateable values have been assessed to have quadrupled over five years is all fine and dandy?

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What is your source for an increase of 400% across the board?

But yes…. A hefty increase was due

and delivered

Southernecho · 27/11/2025 16:37

Lazyusername · 27/11/2025 16:30

Maybe not but have you read the thread I posted and the many people this has affected.
Checked my own business premises and yes it has gone up. Why are people attempting to pretend this is not an increase in costs for many small businesses when it is?

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This is hilarious, you start a thread about massive increases in business rates but never checked your Business rates first?

What business are you in?

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Lazyusername · 27/11/2025 16:36

Dreamtitchy · 27/11/2025 16:35

Or that businesses didn’t set aside money knowing rates would eventually increase sharply

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How would they have known that?

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Lazyusername · 27/11/2025 16:35

Dreamtitchy · 27/11/2025 16:31

Well yes yours has gone up

and it didn’t go up or only very very marginally for years during Covid

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So you feel that the fact that small traders rateable values have been assessed to have quadrupled over five years is all fine and dandy?

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Dreamtitchy · 27/11/2025 16:35

Southernecho · 27/11/2025 16:33

For the 2025-2026 tax year, many small businesses, particularly in the retail, hospitality, and leisure (RHL) sectors, will see their business rates relief reduced, which could lead to higher bills. However, from April 2026, new reforms aim to introduce permanently lower multipliers for most small businesses, funded by higher rates for very large properties

Its a great pity, Sunak didn't set aside monies for businesses for when rates went back to normal.

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Or that businesses didn’t set aside money knowing rates would eventually increase sharply

Southernecho · 27/11/2025 16:33

Lazyusername · 27/11/2025 16:29

The simple fact is that small businesses will as of April 2026 pay thousands more in business rates. Spin it however you like.
I am not a Tory. I'm not surprised that you are.

For the 2025-2026 tax year, many small businesses, particularly in the retail, hospitality, and leisure (RHL) sectors, will see their business rates relief reduced, which could lead to higher bills. However, from April 2026, new reforms aim to introduce permanently lower multipliers for most small businesses, funded by higher rates for very large properties

Its a great pity, Sunak didn't set aside monies for businesses for when rates went back to normal.

Dreamtitchy · 27/11/2025 16:31

Lazyusername · 27/11/2025 16:30

Maybe not but have you read the thread I posted and the many people this has affected.
Checked my own business premises and yes it has gone up. Why are people attempting to pretend this is not an increase in costs for many small businesses when it is?

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Well yes yours has gone up

and it didn’t go up or only very very marginally for years during Covid

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Lazyusername · 27/11/2025 16:31

Killat · 27/11/2025 16:30

Except some won’t?

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And many will.

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Lazyusername · 27/11/2025 16:30

Killat · 27/11/2025 16:29

I’ve just looked up my local pub’s and it’s gone down (the pub is flourishing in recent years). So this isn’t universal.

Maybe not but have you read the thread I posted and the many people this has affected.
Checked my own business premises and yes it has gone up. Why are people attempting to pretend this is not an increase in costs for many small businesses when it is?

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Dreamtitchy · 27/11/2025 16:30

Lazyusername · 27/11/2025 16:29

The simple fact is that small businesses will as of April 2026 pay thousands more in business rates. Spin it however you like.
I am not a Tory. I'm not surprised that you are.

Yes you’re right
It was due

Killat · 27/11/2025 16:30

Lazyusername · 27/11/2025 16:29

The simple fact is that small businesses will as of April 2026 pay thousands more in business rates. Spin it however you like.
I am not a Tory. I'm not surprised that you are.

Except some won’t?

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Lazyusername · 27/11/2025 16:29

The simple fact is that small businesses will as of April 2026 pay thousands more in business rates. Spin it however you like.
I am not a Tory. I'm not surprised that you are.

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Killat · 27/11/2025 16:29

I’ve just looked up my local pub’s and it’s gone down (the pub is flourishing in recent years). So this isn’t universal.

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Southernecho · 27/11/2025 16:26

Lazyusername · 27/11/2025 16:14

Haha - Labour supporters out in force. And in denial.

Ha ha Tory supporters starting threads...again... that aren't accurate, what a surprise!

Rateable value, is not the same as rates bill going up, plus there are reliefs for hospitality, designed to give a lower bill than previously was the case.

Valuations take place every 3 years, subject to the pandemic.

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Lazyusername · 27/11/2025 16:24

Dreamtitchy · 27/11/2025 16:20

Yup
thousands have been added
it’s In line with precisely what the figure would have been if rates had not increased so paltry or not at all during Covid years

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So rateable values have quadrupled since 2020?

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Lazyusername · 27/11/2025 16:22

Dreamtitchy · 27/11/2025 16:19

I think an increase of 69.5% given the the relief in rates due to Covid is tough but had to be done

I think daft x posts grossly exaggerating the figures does fuck all

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I didn't exaggerate. I simply posted a link to some facts. If you misinterpreted them that's your fault.

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Lazyusername · 27/11/2025 16:21

Kuretake · 27/11/2025 16:16

What do you think Rachel should have done differently to prevent this woman's situation then?

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Not suddenly revalued the premises of every small business causing massive hikes in outgoings at a time when traders are already paying higher wages, rents, electric, gas, water rates and stock costs?

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Dreamtitchy · 27/11/2025 16:20

Lazyusername · 27/11/2025 16:17

And Leon's has been revalued from £22,000 to £73,000. Correct? As well as all other small business premises. Shops, pubs, bars. Adding thousands to everyone's costs. Correct?

Yup
thousands have been added
it’s In line with precisely what the figure would have been if rates had not increased so paltry or not at all during Covid years

Dreamtitchy · 27/11/2025 16:19

Lazyusername · 27/11/2025 16:18

So you think that's ok and you're sniggering. I know full well how the amount payable is calculated and nobody said they would pay the revaluation in total. But they will pay thousand of pounds more.

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I think an increase of 69.5% given the the relief in rates due to Covid is tough but had to be done

I think daft x posts grossly exaggerating the figures does fuck all

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Lazyusername · 27/11/2025 16:18

Dreamtitchy · 27/11/2025 16:17

The total increase is 65.9%

hefty, yes

but not 18k-73500k hefty! 🤭

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So you think that's ok and you're sniggering. I know full well how the amount payable is calculated and nobody said they would pay the revaluation in total. But they will pay thousand of pounds more.

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Lazyusername · 27/11/2025 16:17

And Leon's has been revalued from £22,000 to £73,000. Correct? As well as all other small business premises. Shops, pubs, bars. Adding thousands to everyone's costs. Correct?

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