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Not heard you mentioning this Rachel?

110 replies

Lazyusername · 27/11/2025 16:06

AIBU to think this is absolutely outrageous.

https://x.com/LaraInCornwall/status/1993749174404444230

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YorkshireGoldDrinker · 27/11/2025 17:05

Bambamhoohoo · 27/11/2025 17:03

dont forget though, this is the normal course of business. The valuation and multipliers are very well established formula.

they will be high in 2026. You could argue that RR could’ve provided relief or subsidy. But she didn’t decide this would happen in her budget. It’s been coming for years.

Rachel is a puppet. I saw her on TV trying to explain Pay Per Mile. She hasn't got a damn clue what she's on about.

Dreamtitchy · 27/11/2025 17:05

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Lazyusername · 27/11/2025 17:05

Dreamtitchy · 27/11/2025 17:02

Enough said

it’s gone up only slightly

😆

So how do you feel about Sam, they guy in my previous post who has just seen his amount payable go up from 20k to more than 40k. Another laughing emoji?

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YorkshireGoldDrinker · 27/11/2025 17:04

Dreamtitchy · 27/11/2025 17:02

Enough said

it’s gone up only slightly

😆

And they'll pass that on to the customer and make the cost of living crisis much worse.

Bambamhoohoo · 27/11/2025 17:03

dont forget though, this is the normal course of business. The valuation and multipliers are very well established formula.

they will be high in 2026. You could argue that RR could’ve provided relief or subsidy. But she didn’t decide this would happen in her budget. It’s been coming for years.

Dreamtitchy · 27/11/2025 17:02

Lazyusername · 27/11/2025 16:41

None of your business.

Enough said

it’s gone up only slightly

😆

YorkshireGoldDrinker · 27/11/2025 17:02

Havanananana · 27/11/2025 16:58

Denial? It seems that it is the Conservative supporters who are in denial about the damage that 14 years of Conservative government caused - damage that will cost a fortune to repair. But yeh, all of the UK's problems are down to the actions of a government that has only been in place for 17 months.

To be fair to the Conservatives, the last government was probably the most successful in modern history - if you are a Conservative supporter or donor. The wealthy got wealthier and the poor were convinced that their dire situation was all down to a few thousand men in rubber dinghies. Low taxation, vital services and utilities put into the hands of private companies with little oversight, underinvestment in the remaining public services leaving them in a state of collapse, the housing market left to the developers to exploit, Brexit sold on on the basis of lies and misrepresentation .... and then they bugger off, with their peerages and directorships, leaving the next government to attempt to clear up the mess while all the time lobbing grenades at them.

Reeves could have said anything at all yesterday as the headlines were already written by the Conservatives' media ready for publication - "Reeves Budget Disaster Costs [insert random minority group here] an Unaffordable [insert made-up amount here]", "Reeves Hammers Taxpayers and Hands [insert amount here] to Undeserving [insert random group here]" and so on.

Come off it. Labour and Tories are two cheeks of the same arse. They're a uniparty. One causes damage slowly over time, the other accomplishes it much faster, in Starmer's case less than a year. The colour of the rosette is all people seem to care about and it's tiresome. Blue bad, red good. It's the reverse in the USA; red good, blue bad. It's childish in the extreme.

Lazyusername · 27/11/2025 17:01

Havanananana · 27/11/2025 16:58

Denial? It seems that it is the Conservative supporters who are in denial about the damage that 14 years of Conservative government caused - damage that will cost a fortune to repair. But yeh, all of the UK's problems are down to the actions of a government that has only been in place for 17 months.

To be fair to the Conservatives, the last government was probably the most successful in modern history - if you are a Conservative supporter or donor. The wealthy got wealthier and the poor were convinced that their dire situation was all down to a few thousand men in rubber dinghies. Low taxation, vital services and utilities put into the hands of private companies with little oversight, underinvestment in the remaining public services leaving them in a state of collapse, the housing market left to the developers to exploit, Brexit sold on on the basis of lies and misrepresentation .... and then they bugger off, with their peerages and directorships, leaving the next government to attempt to clear up the mess while all the time lobbing grenades at them.

Reeves could have said anything at all yesterday as the headlines were already written by the Conservatives' media ready for publication - "Reeves Budget Disaster Costs [insert random minority group here] an Unaffordable [insert made-up amount here]", "Reeves Hammers Taxpayers and Hands [insert amount here] to Undeserving [insert random group here]" and so on.

I agree with much of what you have said. But how is forcing all of our small businesses to close down going to help?

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YorkshireGoldDrinker · 27/11/2025 16:59

Bromptotoo · 27/11/2025 16:56

No.

But not sure of relevance of that to whether X post is accurate.

It's relevant to the accuracy of the X post if you have experience of running a business or have ever tried to get one off the ground. Because if you have owned a business in the past, you'll know fully well how tough it is, how much overhead there is and how expensive and risky it is.

Most don't or have never and they tend to come out of the woodwork to claim a business owner is crying foul for clout.

Havanananana · 27/11/2025 16:58

Lazyusername · 27/11/2025 16:14

Haha - Labour supporters out in force. And in denial.

Denial? It seems that it is the Conservative supporters who are in denial about the damage that 14 years of Conservative government caused - damage that will cost a fortune to repair. But yeh, all of the UK's problems are down to the actions of a government that has only been in place for 17 months.

To be fair to the Conservatives, the last government was probably the most successful in modern history - if you are a Conservative supporter or donor. The wealthy got wealthier and the poor were convinced that their dire situation was all down to a few thousand men in rubber dinghies. Low taxation, vital services and utilities put into the hands of private companies with little oversight, underinvestment in the remaining public services leaving them in a state of collapse, the housing market left to the developers to exploit, Brexit sold on on the basis of lies and misrepresentation .... and then they bugger off, with their peerages and directorships, leaving the next government to attempt to clear up the mess while all the time lobbing grenades at them.

Reeves could have said anything at all yesterday as the headlines were already written by the Conservatives' media ready for publication - "Reeves Budget Disaster Costs [insert random minority group here] an Unaffordable [insert made-up amount here]", "Reeves Hammers Taxpayers and Hands [insert amount here] to Undeserving [insert random group here]" and so on.

Bambamhoohoo · 27/11/2025 16:58

YorkshireGoldDrinker · 27/11/2025 16:45

People are in denial without explaining their denial.

  • Most don't like pubs. They're seen as a social hub for the 'far-right' who are usually English men (and women) who congregate there over a few pints to discuss the ills of the world, which then leads to movements forming, ie EDL. Can't be having dissent, can we?
  • Many hate the fact a private sector exists and they want every service provisioned by the private sector to be handed over to the state and nationalised.

I'm willing to be corrected. But after so many years being confused about the hatred of private enterprise, my brain has started to fill in the blanks.

Public sector still pays business rates though

business rates are for commercial pressies and in no way unique to pubs, I don’t think the fact the x poster owns a pub is relevant really.

Bromptotoo · 27/11/2025 16:56

YorkshireGoldDrinker · 27/11/2025 16:55

Have you ever run a business or tried to get one off the ground?

No.

But not sure of relevance of that to whether X post is accurate.

Bambamhoohoo · 27/11/2025 16:56

2026 is a revaluation year. Business rates are revalued every 3 years subject to a multiplier.

i think what you’re referring to is it not being done or frozen during Covid.

yes Op business rates will increase massively this year. Average prediction (depending on type of estate and location, this is information I get for a national forecasting) is 25%.

the pub isn’t massively relevant to be honest, everything is hit. There is often transitional relief for small businesses butt t as yet it’s not been offered.

large businesses are being hit much heavier than small ones; there is an extra levy for property >£500k.

YorkshireGoldDrinker · 27/11/2025 16:55

Bromptotoo · 27/11/2025 16:53

Need to understand the actual facts.

A short post on Twitter/X doesn't help.

Have you ever run a business or tried to get one off the ground?

Lazyusername · 27/11/2025 16:54

Just one example.

Sam Carroll

@Samcarrollhull
·
19h

my country pub in rural east yorkshire 2024/25 business rates payable = £8360 (75% relief) 2025/26 business rates payable = £20060 (40% relief) 2026/27 business rates payable = £47300 (new valuation) a 500% increase in three years, whats the fucking point in even trying

Sam Carroll (@Samcarrollhull) on X

@allen_m_simpson my country pub in rural east yorkshire 2024/25 business rates payable = £8360 (75% relief) 2025/26 business rates payable = £20060 (40% relief) 2026/27 business rates payable = £47300 (new valuation) a 500% increase in three years...

https://x.com/Samcarrollhull/status/1993785388251664405

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Bromptotoo · 27/11/2025 16:53

Need to understand the actual facts.

A short post on Twitter/X doesn't help.

RendeersDancingTowardsChristmas · 27/11/2025 16:52

No business owner likes an increase in business rates.

Only time will tell if it was a good or bad financial decision.

YorkshireGoldDrinker · 27/11/2025 16:45

People are in denial without explaining their denial.

  • Most don't like pubs. They're seen as a social hub for the 'far-right' who are usually English men (and women) who congregate there over a few pints to discuss the ills of the world, which then leads to movements forming, ie EDL. Can't be having dissent, can we?
  • Many hate the fact a private sector exists and they want every service provisioned by the private sector to be handed over to the state and nationalised.

I'm willing to be corrected. But after so many years being confused about the hatred of private enterprise, my brain has started to fill in the blanks.

Lazyusername · 27/11/2025 16:43

Donttellempike · 27/11/2025 16:42

Not clicking on to the hellsite

How open minded of you.

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Lazyusername · 27/11/2025 16:42

Dreamtitchy · 27/11/2025 16:37

What is your source for an increase of 400% across the board?

But yes…. A hefty increase was due

and delivered

I didn't say all had. Again, attempting to deflect from the truth by misrepresenting what I have said.

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Donttellempike · 27/11/2025 16:42

Lazyusername · 27/11/2025 16:06

AIBU to think this is absolutely outrageous.

https://x.com/LaraInCornwall/status/1993749174404444230

Not clicking on to the hellsite

Lazyusername · 27/11/2025 16:41

Dreamtitchy · 27/11/2025 16:39

So what’s your increase?

None of your business.

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Lazyusername · 27/11/2025 16:40

Southernecho · 27/11/2025 16:37

This is hilarious, you start a thread about massive increases in business rates but never checked your Business rates first?

What business are you in?

Also you don't seem to know the difference between rates relief and valuations. 😆 Are you a student?

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Dreamtitchy · 27/11/2025 16:39

Lazyusername · 27/11/2025 16:39

Where did I say I didn't check them first? Hilarious!

So what’s your increase?

Lazyusername · 27/11/2025 16:39

Southernecho · 27/11/2025 16:37

This is hilarious, you start a thread about massive increases in business rates but never checked your Business rates first?

What business are you in?

Where did I say I didn't check them first? Hilarious!

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