AIBU that now is the time for us to get behind Kemi?

I'd rather shit in my hands and clap.

I meant the whole lot of them, there was shouting from everywhere in there. Shouting, laughing, jeering, do you think it is ok from any party, it was a job to hear what was going on.

I will vote Labour.

I wish they were bring sharper, more decisive , had better comms and Starmer was a more charismatic communicator. They are bring overtaken by liars, social media and the sensationalist misinformation by Brexit Grandmeister Farage.

I think the problems people are so frustrated with now are not of Labour’s making. Including the Brexit-related ones (aspects of economic struggle, and ability to deal with small boats). And how can anyone think we can recover from the state of the country / the cost of Covid / the impact of Brexit / the global impact including Ukraine, fuel prices etc, tariffs, and with the loss of the ‘special relationship’ with the U.S to rely in for trade?

There are Tories I thought were reasonable and had promise. But not Badenoch. The Greens and Reform are just rag bags of sound bites.

So all in all Labour would still get my vote.

I am a bit shocked at myself, TBH. All I have seen previously is her aggression, which was on display yesterday too but with other characteristics I hadn't seen before.

It makes sense but I think you’ll get a lot of rebuttal just due to the thread wording and being on mn. I think she’s slowly pulling them in front of Labour going by polling but it’s Reform who are yards ahead and hard to beat.

I thought the same about Saint Boris and his merry men casually discussing lockdown (when they did). Toying with people’s lives, minds, children, businesses, futures, wellbeing, mental health, as if it was one big joke. “We need to just… er… squeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeze the brakes on reopening”, while people watched their livelihoods crumble around them. “It’s customary to thank people with a toast when they leave, it was essential for work. Now, pleeeeeeeease can we draw a line under the parties?”

I thought the same about Saint Boris and his merry men casually discussing lockdown (when they did). Toying with people’s lives, minds, children, businesses, futures, wellbeing, mental health, as if it was one big joke. “We need to just… er… squeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeze the brakes on reopening”, while people watched their livelihoods crumble around them. “It’s customary to thank people with a toast when they leave, it was essential for work. Now, pleeeeeeeease can we draw a line under the parties?”

It's almost as if we watched completely different things 🤷‍♂️

She's bloody awful and to suggest she's a supporter of women given her history when she was literally womens minister is lunacy

The Conservatives are not my party but I have to agree with those praising Kemi Badenoch. Politics is a nasty business. She has a job to do - opposing Labour - and yesterday she did it. Her orchestration of her front-bench team was impressive. She was punchy. Her gestures were perfectly timed. Her comedy landed. She is the only party leader to have said that reducing the deficit should be a major strand of economic policy so the percentage spent on servicing national debt is reduced. My Tory father would be thrilled to hear me say this. There's no point voting for her in my constituency though. We're likely to shift from Labour to Green.

In your dreams. Never going to happen, hell'll freeze over first.

I agree, I hate seeing anything discussed in the Commons.
I thought her speech yesterday was aggressive, rude & ridiculous given the disaster of the Tory years.
But they all do it, just shout, heckle & deliver silly "one upmanship" comments
As you say, it does seem very immature.

It was like some pantomime, I found it quite offensive, they are announcing serious things that affect people lives and making it all seem like some great big joke

I don’t know. I don’t think so. Watching the budget yesterday I thought to myself, there MUST be a better way than this. All the jeering and yelling and party politics, ‘you did this’ ‘we did that’ argey-bargey oneupmanship nonsense was so irritating. It felt so immature and actually a bit archaic. The whole damned system needs an overhaul. Including the people within it.

i don’t pretend to have a plan for what that might look like, but I’d have a good bash at it for an MP salary 👀

Get behind her! - what a joke!

Don't forget Covid & the money that was wasted on that.
(I am still waiting for Michelle Mone to face justice)
And it was completely mishandled from the get go.
Yet Labour face way more vitriol and hatred despite doing things that are no way as bad.
Basically, very wealthy people have done very well over the past few years & don't want those times to end.

Blimey fully funded and all that.

Tories and Reform: “miracles, the moon on a stick and all the wealth in the world can be yours, if you will kneel and worship me.”
Labour: “We are trying our best to fix the mess left by the last cloudcuckoolander who promised miracles and the moon on a stick.”

I think she’s bat shit crazy. No

If people are choosing between her and Farage, I’d rather they choose her.

Labour were so stupid to say taxes wouldn’t rise. They could have won without it given how messed up the tories were.

After what the Tories did to public services?
Never. Ever.

Really? They’re polling above Labour. Maybe they’re at zero and it’ll be neither. Does that mean Reform then. She’s polling above Starmer and Reeves too, so on the disliked part they’re much higher on that.

Whatever her tone some will complain it’s too ‘aggressive’ or not strong enough.

Kemi Badenoch was equalities minister. The issue of those born male self-identifying as female and expecting to use women's spaces whilst retaining male genitalia was hardly an issue before beginning in the role.

Now remind us what her response to this issue was? Even before you note her willingness to serve under a government whose leader treated women like dirt in his personal life.