To think my niece doesn’t really get a say on how good or bad she thinks the budget is

She gets it. She lives in the house and the childcare is for children she couldn’t afford to have. Sorry, it’s blatant lying to say otherwise.

She doesn't get it, her landlord and childcare do. So if we cut it, where does she live and are you then happy for her not to work? That means less childcare needed, less people in work, less tax. We either support families or support immigration. Either way, we pay out.

Is she a net contributor? Than she does get a say. In fact people who contribute more than they take from the system should get a bigger say. After all money doesn’t grow on trees. If these people don’t pay, everyone else wouldn’t get their free stuff.

Im people will make lots of subjective arguments about how cruel that is. What is actually cruel is not understanding how the economy works, not being able to do simple sums and not expecting free stuff all the time and tanking the economy in the process for everyone. Which is how most people on here think.

Yes you are being unreasonable. If you are going down the lines of some people deserving a say more than others then you could argue that maybe people who aren't working shouldn't get a say as they are not contributing to the money that is being spent. But obviously life doesn't work that way.

You sound very resentful of her success. Focus on your own situation and try not to compare, it will just make you miserable.

Exactly this. I bet you think she’s got too big for her boots, yeah? Forgotten where she’s come from. Bet you’d be first in the queue if she was handing out cash though.

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Do you know the saying "You make your own luck", OP? Often what looks like luck to the bitter and jealous is usually a combination of hard work, being good at what you do, putting yourself out there, presenting and communicating well, plus many similar opportunities not working out. I know whose opinion on the budget I would value more.

From your follow up posts, I’m not seeing much “luck” for this woman. I’m not sure many people who’ve been in care would describe themselves as lucky?
It sounds like she had a rough start and she’s worked incredibly hard to get where she is. And you now resent her for it. Nice. Her opinion is just as valid as yours.

Your niece does not sound privileged or lucky, she grew up with stints in the care system and has already lost a parent. She has a job based on her talent and skill in something she must have had to dedicate a lot of practise to. It doesn’t sound like your DN was at all privileged growing up, in fact if she spent time in care she was massively disadvantaged, and you sound very bitter dismissing her as ‘lucky.’ Your DN is absolutely entitled to an opinion, as is anybody, and you sound bitter and self-centred.

I 100% disagree with her but she still.has the right to an opinion.

She is probably paying more tax than you so yes she is entitled to an opinion as to where that tax is spent

Stinks of jealousy.

Good for her. What a person to be bitter about and your niece too.

I can’t believe what you’re posting op; it’s so ugly. Your resentment and envy over this young woman’s success is as ugly as it gets.

this young woman, who had a difficult child hood, even in care at one point, has forged a successful career, one where she is being promoted and high earning, her skill set are obviously huge.

and you put it down to luck and decide she should be more empathetic with your hard life and have no say on where the taxes she pays are spent, you, the person who takes, should?

if I was your sibling, the parent of that girl and the young woman herself, I’d distance myself from you,

You sound jealous and bitter.

You have no objectivity regard her, you’re minimising and you yea but her achievements.
Creative industries are fiercely competitive. Sure, luck might get her a start, it won’t maintain her career though. Evidently she has talent, and is well remunerated. Have you considered her she works Hard work and puts in effort. Schmoozing and luck will only get her so far, her flair, and personality clearly impress others.

Shes had bereavement, been a looked after child in social care. Those events can be insurmountable for many. All that And then goes on to establish a well paid career. What a remarkable young woman.

In comparison you’re being petty, and snippy all yea but diminishing her achievements. Not a good look

Going forward Concentrate on yourself. I wish you well, focus on your wellbeing and work on your self esteem, your own talents.

What a disgraceful post, jealous and bitter of someone who has done well.

You keep saying luck, but skill and positivity has got your niece where she is now.

Let’s hope your niece reads this and removes you from her life. If you can’t rely on your family to be proud of you who can you?

The mirror

Reading this makes me glad that my own aunties are proud of me (even now I’m in my 30s) and have always wanted what’s best for me.

With an auntie like you, who needs enemies?!

But she’s a tax payer.

Plus anyone is allowed and an opinion on anything.

You sound jealous that she’s done well for herself with a good job and you’re struggling

Her taxes are probably subsidising your child benefit so I think she can have an opinion on the budget as she contributes significantly to the country. You do sound a bit jealous and I’m not sure that being in the right room will land you a 100k job.

You are absolutely being unreasonable. Rich people can have a view on the budget. Poor people can have a view on the budget. Middle class people can have a view on the budget. Ultra rich like Rupert Murdoch can have a view on the budget. In fact, it's everyone's duty and responsibility to take an interest in politics and have a view on the budget.

Are you genuinely saying politics and budgets are only for the poor? Budgets affect everything from roads to hospitals. Things she will invariably need to use. She as a citizen, has a responsibility to be an informed citizen with views. Rich or poor - doesn't matter. If you are a citizen, even the richest citizen in the entire UK, you still have a responsibility to have a view.

You sound incredibly jealous and bitter and that is making you irrational with regards to this.

OP - I am so embarrassed for you.

You actually have suggested that a woman who was:
neglected by her father,
spent a brief stint in care,
had grandparents that little interest in her
has trained, shown dedication and worked hard
got herself into the right place at the right tine
was then offered a high paying job
retained that job
pays taxes
uses relatively little in terms of state services
invested her money ( stocks & shares ISA)…

… shouldn’t get a say?

Have you acknowledged anywhere in this thread that you were wrong to think this way? All I can see is you trying to justify yourself.

She sounds talented and like she’s worked hard from a young age. My niece is a dancer and I will be so proud if this is her one day.

She gets a say and her views are legitimate, whatever you say. Silencing people you disagree with is dystopian. It’s awful that so called shy tories can’t comfortably join the national debate, it’s really bad for society. I’ve seen nothing from reform that would make me vote for them but we need to understand why their voters think the country is failing them too, or it will get nasty in the future.

You’re no better at understanding your niece than she is of you, and I expect you have many years on her that should have given you the chance to mature and develop empathy.