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Am I the only one that thinks that the budget is good?!

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isitactuallybadthough · 26/11/2025 18:31

NC’d for obvious reasons.

I mean it seems that they’re trying to help the working class?

I am not on benefits. I’m also not lucky enough to live in a property worth over £2,000,000. But surely the worst off in society will be better off under this? With the energy bill cut and two child benefit scrap? Also books for libraries, national wage increases. I do understand people feeling frustrated at the pension/ISA parts, that will probably affect DH and I but overall I’m pleased as the worst off will be slightly less worse off?

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whiteroseredrose · 26/11/2025 19:35

dynamiccactus · 26/11/2025 19:19

One thing they could have done was raise the age for free prescriptions to 67. My DH gets his free, and he is still working full time!

I agree. I was shocked that my last prescription was free. I’ve just turned 60 and my finances are no different than a couple of months ago.

PropertyD · 26/11/2025 19:35

TeenagersAngst · 26/11/2025 19:23

No they’re not. It’s 37%.

Agree. And rewarding people who foolishly have 3 children plus is gong to do what for growth?

JennyForeigner · 26/11/2025 19:34

Tryingtokeepgoing · 26/11/2025 19:30

Only from existing NHS budgets. And £8 billion of existing SEN funding has been removed, now to be funded out of the education budget.

Thanks - I wasn't aware of the SEN changes so will go and read up on that.

Lifelover16 · 26/11/2025 19:34

ICanSpellConfusionWithaK · 26/11/2025 19:04

Labour are all about the working class.

You mean the non working class. And the elites.

Upstartled · 26/11/2025 19:33

tramtracks · 26/11/2025 19:31

A country should raise more tax receipts by having policies to increase economic growth. Not by raising taxes per se.

More economic growth = more tax income = higher employment = improved family income

Yes, do you remember where Reeves said all of that almost verbatim last year?

BurntBroccoli · 26/11/2025 19:33

No - it’s a decent budget given the circumstances.

LemaxObsessive · 26/11/2025 19:32

VegBox · 26/11/2025 19:18

Not everyone but some people are reliant on benefits due to bad life choices. In any case, having children when you are reliant on state benefits is a bad life choice and having more than two children unless you are very secure financially is a bad life choice. I am now subsidising those choices and being penalised for being responsible and having sensible pension arrangements.

Yes I’m sure you’d sit in smug judgment if you met my friend, a 43yr old lone parent to 5 kids who has zero choice but to claim benefits…
What you don’t know, is that she’s a fully trained Paramedic who is now on the run from her recently-turned woman-beating husband. One day they were a happy, homeowning family of 7 with a dog and two full time jobs. The next, she’s sat in a council housing office an hour before they close with 5 crying kids and nowhere to go (ended up in a Refuge with no help from the useless council but that’s another conversation!). She’s had no choice but to claim benefits in order to provide for her kids and certainly cannot go back to her career.

But yeah, bad life choices….. 🤨

GentleOlive · 26/11/2025 19:31

Summatoruvva · 26/11/2025 19:28

In my line of work, those eager job seeking parents once a child turns 2 are extremely rare. I hate to say but people regularly self pathologise or have another to kick the can down the road.

Exactly. But MN would have you believe that people are falling over themselves to get off benefits. And yet we have somehow 10 million people on working age benefits.

tramtracks · 26/11/2025 19:31

Redhairandhottubs · 26/11/2025 19:22

I don’t have any issues with any of it. The country needs to raise more money. People in this country want excellent public services but don’t want to pay for them. If this means paying a bit more tax, then that’s what has to happen. Scrapping the two child benefit cap may help families in poverty struggle a little less. Tax on electric vehicles is a good thing.

A country should raise more tax receipts by having policies to increase economic growth. Not by raising taxes per se.

More economic growth = more tax income = higher employment = improved family income

Tryingtokeepgoing · 26/11/2025 19:30

JennyForeigner · 26/11/2025 19:20

There was funding for health centres wasn't there?

Only from existing NHS budgets. And £8 billion of existing SEN funding has been removed, now to be funded out of the education budget.

Starzinsky · 26/11/2025 19:30

I think there are lots of low paid workers particular those without kids struggling to cover rent and bills. The tax threshold freezes & high rents means work doesn't pay and so it incentivises people to stay on benefits and the tax goes up even more. For some people the welfare system works well for example singles parents on benefits receiving ample child support from the non primary parent and others for example earning a decent wage with high work commuting costs & rent will feel penalised for working 60+ hours a week.

Hotvimtoandwaffles · 26/11/2025 19:30

888casino · 26/11/2025 19:06

Exactly hard working families don’t get a pay rise when they have another child but benefits families will now? I’m not perfect had my eldest at 16 but didn’t have my other two till I was older and had sorted myself out financially. Grown adults having a multitude of kids and expecting everyone to pay for them is taking the piss

I too am miffed about working families not being supported as I’m one myself, but you do realise the only people that will benefit from this after families that had children after the 2 child cap right? So they didn’t have extra children to get benefits because those benefits didn’t exist..? It’s a totally separate thing and just means the poorest CHILDREN in society will be better supported. How’s that a bad thing? When did society become so selfish that people begrudge children not living in poverty?

Upstartled · 26/11/2025 19:29

Redhairandhottubs · 26/11/2025 19:22

I don’t have any issues with any of it. The country needs to raise more money. People in this country want excellent public services but don’t want to pay for them. If this means paying a bit more tax, then that’s what has to happen. Scrapping the two child benefit cap may help families in poverty struggle a little less. Tax on electric vehicles is a good thing.

We're not raising tax for excellent public services are we? £15bn to raise benefits and uncap the two child policy. More fiscal headroom, yada, yada

Nothing in that budget on the NHS. Nothing at all.

Thechaseison71 · 26/11/2025 19:29

londongirl12 · 26/11/2025 18:45

Me too. Is the child benefit really going to lift people out of poverty as it’s apparently going to do for lots of people??

It's over£300 a month per child so should make a big difference

MoonBugs · 26/11/2025 19:28

I wholeheartedly agree

Catnanna · 26/11/2025 19:28

dynamiccactus · 26/11/2025 19:19

One thing they could have done was raise the age for free prescriptions to 67. My DH gets his free, and he is still working full time!

As does my husband, but in fairness he has asthma and needs his inhalers. He’s paid for them for years whilst others who have life threatening conditions got there meds free. Seems asthmatics got a raw deal…but that’s a discussion for another day.

StrongandNorthern · 26/11/2025 19:28

OnlyMabelInTheBuilding · 26/11/2025 18:58

There isn’t one. They’ve decided their voting base is people on welfare.

Is it? Really?
Or is it slightly more complicated?
I'm Very Old, and Very Cynical.

Summatoruvva · 26/11/2025 19:28

GentleOlive · 26/11/2025 19:23

Pretending to look for work is not exactly a hardship.

In my line of work, those eager job seeking parents once a child turns 2 are extremely rare. I hate to say but people regularly self pathologise or have another to kick the can down the road.

FlyingApple · 26/11/2025 19:28

No matter how hard I try, I can't describe it as good.

Forthelov · 26/11/2025 19:27

LemaxObsessive · 26/11/2025 19:08

My widowed pensioner mum is already living in poverty due to having to pay £55 per month in tax on her state pension and due to the budget is now going to be paying over £130 per month in tax on her state pension. She’s 81 and worked all her life but due to a series of unfortunate circumstances beyond her own control, she’s only got a tiny private pension (£27pm) and is not entitled to pension credit. She’s fallen through the net. She called me crying her heart out. That extra £80 is literally her food budget each month. She’s saying she won’t be able to ever use the heating again and is going to have to sell her car and lose her last remaining independence, just to get through the next year. The last thing she said to me before she ended the call was “Hopefully I won’t be here anymore by the time the car money has gone”. It’s heartbreaking.
(No, I can’t help financially at all as I’m also on an extremely low income and a single parent. Besides, she would never, ever accept a penny from me)

Why is she going to be paying so much more tax? I’ve not heard about this, sorry.

Bedtelly · 26/11/2025 19:27

TeenagersAngst · 26/11/2025 19:23

No they’re not. It’s 37%.

My understanding is that 37% of claimants of UC are in work however of those who are parents 59% are in work. I may have that wrong but I'm sure that's what I read.

Hotvimtoandwaffles · 26/11/2025 19:26

RaininSummer · 26/11/2025 18:56

It isn't child benefit which has changed. It is the universal credit child element so it will give families on benefits an increase of £293 a month for every extra child included at least until they hit the benefit cap if not working. I would have preferred it to be given in the form of food vouchers tbh as then at least it stands more chance of reaching children.

Do you actually think people on benefits don’t spend their money on their children? I’m not affected by this change in the slightest as we are a working family with two children but honestly, everyone I know with children who are on benefits spends their money on their kids. What’s your point here? Getting an extra amount is going to go on fags and booze? 🤣

Hedgehogbrown · 26/11/2025 19:26

888casino · 26/11/2025 19:01

Scraping the two child limit is a joke? I’m not perfect got pregnant at 15 fave birth at 16 but 4+ kids by 4 different dads and expecting other peoples taxes to pay is surely taking the piss?
I mean seriously? Raising taxes for THIS?? I doubt many people will vote labour again

Oh god are you joking? Look at the statistics, people aren't even having children any more. You had a kid at 16 and can't even have any empathy for people with kids.

lazyarse123 · 26/11/2025 19:26

LemaxObsessive · 26/11/2025 19:08

My widowed pensioner mum is already living in poverty due to having to pay £55 per month in tax on her state pension and due to the budget is now going to be paying over £130 per month in tax on her state pension. She’s 81 and worked all her life but due to a series of unfortunate circumstances beyond her own control, she’s only got a tiny private pension (£27pm) and is not entitled to pension credit. She’s fallen through the net. She called me crying her heart out. That extra £80 is literally her food budget each month. She’s saying she won’t be able to ever use the heating again and is going to have to sell her car and lose her last remaining independence, just to get through the next year. The last thing she said to me before she ended the call was “Hopefully I won’t be here anymore by the time the car money has gone”. It’s heartbreaking.
(No, I can’t help financially at all as I’m also on an extremely low income and a single parent. Besides, she would never, ever accept a penny from me)

Not being picky but why is your mum paying tax? Using those figures you gave her yearly income at the moment is £12296. If she gets the current full pension. That's below the tax allowance.
If that's right you need to contact hmrc with her because it doesn't sound right unless she owes them unpaid taxes.

Hayley1256 · 26/11/2025 19:25

Some of the things in the budget will end up costing so much more. When she said 300m for AI and automation I just laughed - it's going to cost much more than that sobit will eother get scrapped when they over spend and the money will be wasted or the cost will just be never ending. I haven't even got time to comment on all the other stuff.

I loved Kemi's response

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