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Am I the only one that thinks that the budget is good?!

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isitactuallybadthough · 26/11/2025 18:31

NC’d for obvious reasons.

I mean it seems that they’re trying to help the working class?

I am not on benefits. I’m also not lucky enough to live in a property worth over £2,000,000. But surely the worst off in society will be better off under this? With the energy bill cut and two child benefit scrap? Also books for libraries, national wage increases. I do understand people feeling frustrated at the pension/ISA parts, that will probably affect DH and I but overall I’m pleased as the worst off will be slightly less worse off?

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BlueandWhitePorcelain · 26/11/2025 20:26

I should think the rise in the national minimum wage will just about finish off the care sector, after a good attempt by the Chancellor in last year’s budget.

I doubt very much local authorities and the NHS will be funding the increase in careworkers’ pay?

Tryingtokeepgoing · 26/11/2025 20:26

JennyForeigner · 26/11/2025 19:34

Thanks - I wasn't aware of the SEN changes so will go and read up on that.

Apologies, it’s £6 billion not £8 billion. But that’s still a 1.7% reduction in spend per pupil across the whole education budget. So as other have posted, this budget has done nothing for public serves. Nothing at all. I am surprised there’s not more concern about this tbh

schoolsweek.co.uk/government-faces-6bn-send-shortfall-once-override-ends/

newnamenoname52 · 26/11/2025 20:25

I will be worse off and I am absolutely fine with that. I can afford to pay a bit more and I think I should.

To those saying we are giving to those who make bad life choices - I am fairly horrified by that view.! Do you honestly think that all those in receipt of benefits (including their children) are in that situation because of poor life choices?

timenotime · 26/11/2025 20:24

craigth162 · 26/11/2025 18:40

I disagree with removing 2 children benefit cap.

Me too. They really needed to tackle the rising disability benefits too, but have run scared from that too.

user927464 · 26/11/2025 20:24

HoskinsChoice · 26/11/2025 19:48

I see the removal of the child benefit cap as a negative. Whilst it will help poor families, it will also pay out to rich families too. I would actually rather see child benefit scrapped completely and the money saved going directly to just families that need it. That's probably my biggest issue with it, it's a really odd decision that smacks of tring to win a popularity competition, not doing the best for our country. That said, I do like the mansion tax and the ISA and pension changes that stop the wealthy avoiding tax.

This is nothing to do with child benefit. Its universal credit (child element)

Blizzardofleaves · 26/11/2025 20:23

feistyoneyouare · 26/11/2025 20:18

Do you work in finance yourself? Genuine question.

We do, and there genuinely is ‘fuck all’ in the budget that will stimulate growth or jobs, but it is worse than that. It is considered likely, or very likely that both Starmer and Reeves are toast. There is neither vision or policy for a reboot of the economy and growth, only enlargement of the state and dependence.

Anyone ‘celebrating’ this budget appear to not understand the implications.

TeenagersAngst · 26/11/2025 20:23

Beddiem · 26/11/2025 20:08

Err, rich people aren’t getting child benefit. It isn’t a universal benefit.

I think @HoskinsChoiceis confusing child benefit with UC. It doesn’t help when everyone calls it the 2 child benefit cap.

GentleOlive · 26/11/2025 20:23

HoskinsChoice · 26/11/2025 20:13

If you are earning enough to be in a position to add thousands in a pension just to avoid tax, you're already self sufficient. It's pure greed and completely tone deaf to the problems in society.

Someone on another thread said that one of the reasons this country is in such a mess is because people who understand nothing about the economy get to vote. Your comment reminded me of that.

Size18onagoodday · 26/11/2025 20:22

isitactuallybadthough · 26/11/2025 18:31

NC’d for obvious reasons.

I mean it seems that they’re trying to help the working class?

I am not on benefits. I’m also not lucky enough to live in a property worth over £2,000,000. But surely the worst off in society will be better off under this? With the energy bill cut and two child benefit scrap? Also books for libraries, national wage increases. I do understand people feeling frustrated at the pension/ISA parts, that will probably affect DH and I but overall I’m pleased as the worst off will be slightly less worse off?

Will you feel the same way when Reeves raises taxes again?

She has already said that she is willing to, if conditions dictate (hint: they will)

Lucelady · 26/11/2025 20:21

LemaxObsessive · 26/11/2025 19:08

My widowed pensioner mum is already living in poverty due to having to pay £55 per month in tax on her state pension and due to the budget is now going to be paying over £130 per month in tax on her state pension. She’s 81 and worked all her life but due to a series of unfortunate circumstances beyond her own control, she’s only got a tiny private pension (£27pm) and is not entitled to pension credit. She’s fallen through the net. She called me crying her heart out. That extra £80 is literally her food budget each month. She’s saying she won’t be able to ever use the heating again and is going to have to sell her car and lose her last remaining independence, just to get through the next year. The last thing she said to me before she ended the call was “Hopefully I won’t be here anymore by the time the car money has gone”. It’s heartbreaking.
(No, I can’t help financially at all as I’m also on an extremely low income and a single parent. Besides, she would never, ever accept a penny from me)

I'm not sure of the eligibility but could your mum be entitled to attendance allowance? Do you have to help her or she able to manage every day tasks?
My BFFs mum is 86, lives alone most of the week and gets this.

Joeninety · 26/11/2025 20:21

Take off of 'working people' that try to better themselves, to give to all the feckless dross that Liebour relies on.

Alpacajigsaw · 26/11/2025 20:20

I’m in my 50s and honestly I don’t think I’ve ever sat after a budget and thought oh that was great, I’m better off now. Something has always happened that I’ve paid more. Labour and Tory are just 2 cheeks of the same arse. This website is full of £100k plus earning private school using posters and theyre still largely just having a tantrum that labour got in at all.

888casino · 26/11/2025 20:20

Bedtelly · 26/11/2025 20:13

I'm sure lots of people claiming UC now are good at budgeting as well. 59% of parents claiming UC are actually in work as well.

I'm glad that you utilised the benefits system when you needed it and now have such negative opinions about people who use it.

Also my point was that if you're still in your twenties there is lots of time for you to need the benefits system again. Anything can happen.

I don’t have negative opinions about people who use it I think a two child cap was reasonable but more than that is taking the piss, once you’ve got all the stuff from having one kid why does three require 300 more than two? 600 more for four etc. like I said three kids here now and didn’t find the jump from two to three that bad. People don’t get a three hundred pay rise from their job for having another kid

Peopleareworried · 26/11/2025 20:19

DuchessDandelion · 26/11/2025 20:15

I'm single, low income, desperately saving for my first property. Am gutted about the ISA news but apart from that I'll be less than £9 worse off a year - which comes from petrol taxation.

Since I've said I'd be happy to pay more tax to bolster our public services, then I can't grumble

Public services are not going to be improved by this. It’s all smoke and mirrors……

feistyoneyouare · 26/11/2025 20:18

TonTonMacoute · 26/11/2025 20:16

If you think it's good then you understand fuck all about economics (like Rachel Reeves apparently 🙄)

As mentioned upthread there is absolutely nothing in this budget that will bring about growth and we will simply run out of money to pay for anything.

Do you work in finance yourself? Genuine question.

Hedjwitch · 26/11/2025 20:18

The only impact on me is the salary sacrifice into pensions and the reduced ISA contributions. Stings a bit that it took me to my 60s to be in the position where I could finally use both of these to save a bit,and now they are reduced but such is life.

RaininSummer · 26/11/2025 20:18

Beddiem · 26/11/2025 20:08

Err, rich people aren’t getting child benefit. It isn’t a universal benefit.

For the umpteenth time, it is not child benefit we are talking about. It is universal credit child element.

JustAnotherView · 26/11/2025 20:17

It is not too bad a budget from a fiscal viewpoint - although it is stalling problems for the future and hugely dependent on growth picking up... if not, Labour will find themselves having to come back for more at a time closer to the general election.

The budget is middling on redistribution and I say that as a high-rate tax payer that was expecting (and accepting) to pay more.

Where it massively fails is on the incentives (and hence growth) front. The elimination of the 2-child cap is a case in point (given that it is a delayed implementation) it will be interesting to see if there is an up-trend in births in certain groups). I would include there the stagnation of income tax bands, higher taxes on savings income, etc. Not to mention nothing to address the inflated welfare system or waste in the public sector (or even a signal of wanting to do in the future)

What makes a government budget different is that it is not only about moving money around / redistributing the pie but, crucially, about growing the size of the pie through (the right) incentives and signals to markets and investors. And, on that front, it performs badly.

DuchessDandelion · 26/11/2025 20:17

The financial markets are looking pretty OK this evening tbh
They stabilised within hours, traders relieved etc

Julen7 · 26/11/2025 20:17

AlexisP90 · 26/11/2025 20:15

Can we not give parents supermarket vouchers instead of child benefit? Excluding booze and cigarettes?

Why does it need to be cash? If its to get kids out of poverty, which i am FULLY on board to help, why do we need to give it in cash?

Oh because of course they need to have free will to spend it how they like, no strings attached.

Spinningonthatdizzyedge · 26/11/2025 20:16

OnlyMabelInTheBuilding · 26/11/2025 20:07

Nor is the the fault of taxpayers who now have to pay more to support them.

Lots of people are taxpayers...including parents in minimum wage jobs topped up by UC who dare to have more than 2 children

HoskinsChoice · 26/11/2025 20:16

SuffolkBargeWoman · 26/11/2025 20:14

Putting money in my pension is pure greed?????
Seriously?????

You've deliberately missed the 'to avoid tax' bit.

feistyoneyouare · 26/11/2025 20:16

You're not the only one, OP. But unfortunately a lot of MNers don't care about those who are worse off than them, to go by some of the bile that's been posted recently.

TonTonMacoute · 26/11/2025 20:16

If you think it's good then you understand fuck all about economics (like Rachel Reeves apparently 🙄)

As mentioned upthread there is absolutely nothing in this budget that will bring about growth and we will simply run out of money to pay for anything.

Olderbutt · 26/11/2025 20:16

craigth162 · 26/11/2025 18:40

I disagree with removing 2 children benefit cap.

Me too!