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Am I the only one that thinks that the budget is good?!

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isitactuallybadthough · 26/11/2025 18:31

NC’d for obvious reasons.

I mean it seems that they’re trying to help the working class?

I am not on benefits. I’m also not lucky enough to live in a property worth over £2,000,000. But surely the worst off in society will be better off under this? With the energy bill cut and two child benefit scrap? Also books for libraries, national wage increases. I do understand people feeling frustrated at the pension/ISA parts, that will probably affect DH and I but overall I’m pleased as the worst off will be slightly less worse off?

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ProcrastinatorsAnonymous · 26/11/2025 23:00

I think it's a start. I'd like to see them go further. Only the Greens are really serious about taxing wealth rather than income from work, but this HAS to be the way forward. I say this as someone who is now paying VAT on school fees and will be hit by the mansion tax.

Perhaps I'm naive, but I've always assumed that if you're rich enough to do things like own £2m+ houses and pay to privately educate your kids, you thank your lucky stars and cast your vote in a way that benefits those who are struggling. I'm pretty outraged when I hear about people in my position voting in their own self interest when they are already so comfortable. Yet I know I will be biting my tongue at the school gates tomorrow, listening to wealthy parents moan about Labour. We're not so rich that we don't feel the impact of VAT on the fees etc - but I would vote for the redistribution of wealth and rebuilding of public services every single time.

We've earned every penny through hard work. No lottery win. Gifted nothing. No inheritance. No parental help. I was the first generation of my family to go to university. We are massive net contributors to the system and have been for years. I'm sure this sounds like a massive brag, but I'm laying it out to demonstrate that we tick every box that people on here point to when they try to defend their position on lower taxes.

In fact, all that's happened is we've been very lucky: our skills align with things the market values; we haven't been hit by illness or disability or anything else that has thrown us off track; we are just about old enough to have bought our first flat by squirrelling money away - something that became impossible only a few years later. We are bloody golden compared to younger generations coming through now. And when I think about what nurses and teachers and paramedics are doing at work, I can't really claim that what I do is "worth" more, however hard I've worked at it. So of course we should shoulder more. Please Labour - have the guts to tax the shit out of us - because the country is broken and it isn't fair.

Stillpoor · 26/11/2025 22:59

Evertime i say what i think about it i get quoted and called something.

So i am now going to agree with you its WONDERFUL have more kids get more benefits.

  1. i dont have to look after them i just had to payments.
  2. when people have a lot of kids because you get more money the budget will change again, And there will be plenty of familys with plenty of kids to feed.
Budgetusername · 26/11/2025 22:56

Stardustnush · 26/11/2025 22:53

"Good"??!" It is absolutely crap. Nothing good about it. I am on the side that pays. Labour is buying votes with my money. It is socialism and even that is executed badly by this joke government! There is now 0 incentive for me to put in extra work. Why should I go for that promotion and earn more money? So I can pay for kid 3,4 and 5 of some random who will raise another generation of welfare consumers? If you think this is designed to "get kids out of poverty because they should not pay for their parents' mistakes/ life choices" you are deluded. What
should people plan to be financially responsible for?

Are you feeling ok?? Where are these people having all these kids in order to deprive you of money. Are they taking over from the Syrians etc. coming in to take you jobs homes and money? Bogey men that do not exist. Inflame people to do things they should not do. I feel it was a good budget. I don’t benefit from it but i think it was balanced.

Stardustnush · 26/11/2025 22:53

"Good"??!" It is absolutely crap. Nothing good about it. I am on the side that pays. Labour is buying votes with my money. It is socialism and even that is executed badly by this joke government! There is now 0 incentive for me to put in extra work. Why should I go for that promotion and earn more money? So I can pay for kid 3,4 and 5 of some random who will raise another generation of welfare consumers? If you think this is designed to "get kids out of poverty because they should not pay for their parents' mistakes/ life choices" you are deluded. What
should people plan to be financially responsible for?

MinglyMadly · 26/11/2025 22:52

Dragonscaledaisy · 26/11/2025 19:15

I agree. nothing whatsoever to stimulate economic growth - I notice that's been quietly been dropped now. The private sector is essentially propping up everyone else. Unless we can stimulate growth there, the country has no chance of recovery.

This.

judgementday2 · 26/11/2025 22:49

Yes, you are in the tiny minority. Even on here, the most left wing site possible.

ScreamingBeans · 26/11/2025 22:49

Budgetusername · 26/11/2025 22:38

Children shouldn’t suffer from the circumstances of their parents. And it is ridiculous to think that people have children in order to benefit from benefits.

I've never understood this sentiment.

OF COURSE children suffer from the circumstances of their parents. That is actually the nature of being a child. Having to live with the parents who may be abusive, or stupid, or demanding, or whatever it is the parents are.

All of us have to put up with our parents, their worldviews, their circumstances, their decisions, until we're old enough to escape from the fuckers.

How on Earth does anyone get round that?

Budgetusername · 26/11/2025 22:46

Budgetusername · 26/11/2025 22:45

I agree. It was so badly publicised as child benefit. Which was not affected at all and is for all children. So many misunderstood that including myself. But families need supported. I am very glad that the 2 child cap on universal credit is gone. It gives me back some faith in labour. I had and have lost faith in labour. This budget is going some way towards restoring it.

They are only just starting going back in right direction.

Budgetusername · 26/11/2025 22:45

Discofish · 26/11/2025 22:41

I haven't had chance to look at it properly but I am glad the two child cap on Universal Credit has gone. It feels immoral to have had such a draconian policy that cruelly punished children for the misfortune of either being born into poverty or their parents falling into poverty through circumstance. Even those people who really do believe anyone claiming UC with 3 children must be lazy/stupid/feckless and have 'chosen' a life of poverty etc, how can they justify punishing children for their parents decisions. Those children do not deserve to go hungry or cold anymore than any other child.

Those moaning it will encourage people to have more babies- I doubt it will have any significant impact- but let's not forget we have a declining population growth- that can cause serious economic and social problems (top heavy ageing population, fewer working age tax payers, fewer workers filling care vacancies), immigration can be a solution to this but as that's such contentious subject you would think people wouldn't moan so much about the possibility of a few more babies.

Lastly- it does irritate me when people mistake this "two child benifits cap" with "Child Benifit" - it says to me that people just can't be arsed to do their research/get their news from headlines, yes it is misleading the way it is refered to- but actually read about it and it is very clear it is/was a cap on Universal Credit for more than 2 children. There are people IN work who claim UC because of low wages, and being as UC replaced a variety of previous benefits I would imagine there are a whole range of reasons/circumstances a person might need to claim in.

I agree. It was so badly publicised as child benefit. Which was not affected at all and is for all children. So many misunderstood that including myself. But families need supported. I am very glad that the 2 child cap on universal credit is gone. It gives me back some faith in labour. I had and have lost faith in labour. This budget is going some way towards restoring it.

Discofish · 26/11/2025 22:41

I haven't had chance to look at it properly but I am glad the two child cap on Universal Credit has gone. It feels immoral to have had such a draconian policy that cruelly punished children for the misfortune of either being born into poverty or their parents falling into poverty through circumstance. Even those people who really do believe anyone claiming UC with 3 children must be lazy/stupid/feckless and have 'chosen' a life of poverty etc, how can they justify punishing children for their parents decisions. Those children do not deserve to go hungry or cold anymore than any other child.

Those moaning it will encourage people to have more babies- I doubt it will have any significant impact- but let's not forget we have a declining population growth- that can cause serious economic and social problems (top heavy ageing population, fewer working age tax payers, fewer workers filling care vacancies), immigration can be a solution to this but as that's such contentious subject you would think people wouldn't moan so much about the possibility of a few more babies.

Lastly- it does irritate me when people mistake this "two child benifits cap" with "Child Benifit" - it says to me that people just can't be arsed to do their research/get their news from headlines, yes it is misleading the way it is refered to- but actually read about it and it is very clear it is/was a cap on Universal Credit for more than 2 children. There are people IN work who claim UC because of low wages, and being as UC replaced a variety of previous benefits I would imagine there are a whole range of reasons/circumstances a person might need to claim in.

Budgetusername · 26/11/2025 22:41

ToughTimes88 · 26/11/2025 21:46

@isitactuallybadthough yes. Minimum wage may be going up but that will only affect businesses that will put their produce up. So shipping will cost more. Especially if you’re a smoker or a drinker as now cig and alcohol tax is going up (doesn’t affect me but that’s by the by) Also with tax and NI, they may not be able to afford appropriate wages and result in closing altogether. It won’t affect big businesses but will affect local, small, family businesses who may need to close.

Also benefit cap for 2 children being lifted, may help you in the short term (again doesn help help me) but who’s paying for that? The tax payers. So anyone who has more Han 2 children will get more benefits but everyone else is paying for those, therefore a tax hike will be incoming. Electric vehicle tax (which does affect me and I think is ridiculous considering electric vehicles don’t affect emissions at all) and will affect multiple others who have decided to go green and avoid petrol/diesel.

tax on gambling seems like a win win but at the end of the day only affects the middle man cos those who are seriously in debt with declare themselves bankrupt.

pensioners again being caught in the fire line! It’s a sin to grow old these days!

You can’t save as much money tax free anymore! Because tax needs to start from when you’re born, to when you’re breathing to when you die!

it’s an absolute shit show and if you support it, you’re part of the problem.

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This text is ridiculous and wrong.

cityanalyst678 · 26/11/2025 22:40

isitactuallybadthough · 26/11/2025 18:31

NC’d for obvious reasons.

I mean it seems that they’re trying to help the working class?

I am not on benefits. I’m also not lucky enough to live in a property worth over £2,000,000. But surely the worst off in society will be better off under this? With the energy bill cut and two child benefit scrap? Also books for libraries, national wage increases. I do understand people feeling frustrated at the pension/ISA parts, that will probably affect DH and I but overall I’m pleased as the worst off will be slightly less worse off?

It won’t help many WORKING class. It will help the non working. It doesn’t encourage ambition or reward those who work all hours to better themselves.

Budgetusername · 26/11/2025 22:38

yellowspanner · 26/11/2025 22:35

I I strongly disagree with removing the 2 child benefit cap. I will now be paying even more tax so irresponsible people can have more children than they can afford.

Children shouldn’t suffer from the circumstances of their parents. And it is ridiculous to think that people have children in order to benefit from benefits.

peanutbuttertoasty · 26/11/2025 22:37

By 'working class' you do mean the not-working class, right?

People who actually work for a living have been shat on.

yellowspanner · 26/11/2025 22:35

I I strongly disagree with removing the 2 child benefit cap. I will now be paying even more tax so irresponsible people can have more children than they can afford.

Budgetusername · 26/11/2025 22:35

I absolutely agree with it. And with the 2 child benefit being lifted. I don’t benefit from this in any way apart from being 65 quite soon. I think it is best budget that could have come. I thought it was really telling that when Kemi badenoch was coming for her Rachel was literally upset and nearly crying. To me that makes her human. Unlike kemi who is just an attack dog.

snurtifier · 26/11/2025 22:27

MyHappyGreenAnt · 26/11/2025 20:11

Policies that are good for people do not always sound nice. Policies that sound nice are not always good for people. I think everyone understands this on an intuitive level but it gets lost in political debates.

It is in our collective interest that the economy is strong and we live within our means. Obviously (and sadly) this means that some people now will live in very difficult situations and won't have everything they want, possibly not everything they need. This does not mean we should jeopardise our collective future and the futures of all children in the UK to fix those difficult cases. This is not callous. This is weighing up the pain of many (the future population) against the not so many.

Good politicians would see horrible, painful, difficult situations and feel enormous personal empathy while still having the clarity of vision to not put the whole country on the path to economic ruin to rescue those cases. Labour has failed on this.

Good politicians would stand up and say the thing that needs saying which is that the pension triple lock is financially crippling the country and needs to go, even though pensioners vote reliably. Labour and Conservative together have failed on this.

Why is no one making the case for our children? For today's young? For difficult decisions that make the country stronger?

I agree with every word of this.

Chillyourbeansweeman · 26/11/2025 22:25

GentleOlive · 26/11/2025 19:08

No, they are all about the benefits class. As shown today.

Taxing working people to give to those who make bad life choices is not being an advocate for working people.

The majority of people claiming UC are working !

LadyHexham · 26/11/2025 22:25

Why does anyone need more than 2 children?
Why should taxpayers support extra children?

It's home grown people or immigrants, we can't afford both without raising taxes.

Which I support, as a taxpayer.

Fundays12 · 26/11/2025 22:20

craigth162 · 26/11/2025 18:40

I disagree with removing 2 children benefit cap.

As a mum of 3 I do to. I think its a really awful decision and will encourage some people to continue having kids they can't afford.

JLou08 · 26/11/2025 22:16

I don't think it's too bad. I'll be impacted very slightly by the national insurance on pension but I will probably gain as the pay scales in my organisation usually increase when NMW does.
A £2 million house is something I could only dream of, it's the same for all of my friends and family, so I struggle to have any empathy for them. People in those houses won't need to move, it will just lower the inheritance they leave behind for people who didn't earn it.

PurpleCyclamen · 26/11/2025 22:14

ihaterain2024 · 26/11/2025 21:13

Well it will help the nail bars as thats what the money will be spent on. If the government wanted to really help children they would offer extra food, activities ,something that goes directly to the children.

Utter nonsense and highly prejudiced.

Mathsbabe · 26/11/2025 22:08

I’m content with the budget.
The two child cap made me feel sick, I’m so glad it has gone.

Discofish · 26/11/2025 22:08

KitWyn · 26/11/2025 21:18

But doesn't that shock you?

Everyone I know well enough to discuss such things, thought long and hard before having another child. The biggest question being can we afford it? And if they couldn't they (sadly) didn't have another.

Yes, accidents can happen. But if after the surprise third child, you're really struggling, then why not look for more permanent/failsafe family planning options. It's not difficult and it's free.

Are so many people really that financially illiterate and unable to sensibly plan for their family's future?

Why should children be punished for their parents decesions

ihaterain2024 · 26/11/2025 22:04

GoGoGooo · 26/11/2025 21:17

Do you have any evidence that parents living in poverty are choosing to spend the little money they have getting their nails done as opposed to feeding and clothing their children?

Yes the evidence of this i know in person.