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To keep our council property when we can technically buy?

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HungaryForLove · 26/11/2025 17:25

Hi all,

My partner and I are TTC and thinking about our future. Ideally, after I have a baby I only want to work maximum 2 days weekly so I can be around for our kids, and also save on childcare costs. Partner earns about £35k/year before tax/pension, and we have around £16k in savings. We wouldn’t be claiming UC, just child benefit.

We currently live in a council house that my partner grew up in — he inherited it when his mum moved abroad. It’s a 3-bedroom house. Rent is £480/month. The estate is fine, some people are bit rough around the edges but they never give us any trouble and there’s actually a nice community. I regularly walk to the local shop at night and never feel unsafe. It’s full of young families.

The alternative is buying a 3-bedroom house (we need 3 bed as want 2 DC and I often WFH), which seems to start around £160,000 here and with the 10% deposit of £16,000 our savings would go back down to £0 with no buffer for house maintenance, car issues, maternity leave etc. Also with a 30-year mortgage (we’d need 30 years to be able to afford the monthly payments) at 4.35% interest, I’d realistically need to work 4–5 days a week just to cover costs. I am currently only earning £26,000 full-time. Working so many days would mean barely seeing our kids and only taking home less than £1000 anyway after childcare, and that’s with taking into account the 30 free hours as you still end up paying hundreds a month anyway (I know this from my sister who uses our local nursery 4 days a week for her son who is soon changing to 2 days as she will pay nothing then).

If we stay in the council house, we could comfortably manage on one full-time income and one very part-time income and retain over £10,000 in savings (that would otherwise go on house deposit) to get us through maternity leaves etc, and the a portion of the money we’d otherwise spend on mortgage interest we would invest. Even considering rent going up a few percent per year, we’d still be much more comfortable.

So, AIBU for wanting to stay put in our inherited council house for now, even though we could technically afford to buy? I’m not saying we would stay forever but at least until the expensive childcare years are over, and maybe by then mortgage rates will have become more reasonable and I could go back to working full-time and we’d only be paying wrap-around care.

I do appreciate we are in a fortunate position to be even able to make this choice. Me and DP did grow up in severe poverty, I had alcoholic gambling addict parents and DP is originally from a very deprived country which his DM has moved back to and neither of us will inherit anything. Just to add context.

OP posts:
Alpacajigsaw · 26/11/2025 20:28

Stay put.

its not down to you to make life harder for yourself so someone random MNers deem more “deserving” can live in your home. It’s hardly your fault the housing market in this country is a shitshow. No one else on this thread who is criticising you would actually move out either, they’re at the wind up.

comeandhaveteawithme · 26/11/2025 20:27

lazyarse123 · 26/11/2025 20:25

Council houses are not subsidised by the tax payer. So op should stay put.

Who pays for them to be built in the first place?

comeandhaveteawithme · 26/11/2025 20:26

AInightingale · 26/11/2025 20:21

People who earn too much, or are under-occupied should be kicked out ASAP.
That just disincentivises people, so they choose to live on benefits longer or work fewer hours so they don't fall foul of an eviction order!
Councils do need to get tougher on under occupation though. They won't touch the homes of people over sixty, which is extremely unfair to young families on the waiting list.

60 isn't even old these days. A lot of 60 year olds are at the height of their careers, earning plenty and living full active lives.

My mum is about to turn 70 and I don't even consider her "old" yet.

Waitingfordoggo · 26/11/2025 20:25

HungaryForLove · 26/11/2025 17:35

I have considered this. The way I see it though is that the reduced rent is what allows many people to otherwise support themselves and stay off needing further benefits. There’s loads of people in council housing who can technically afford to buy or private rent but if you kick them out of the council housing they will end up needing support in other ways in the future as they could only afford mortgage/private rent by the skin of their teeth. If we were to buy now we’d end up with no savings or safety buffer, all it would take is for DP to have an accident at work and become disabled for us to be thrown back under the poverty line and needing UC, or would only take the car or boiler breaking down for us to end up needing a £5000 loan which would then spiral.

we have no intention of ever claiming housing benefit.

Edited

I have nothing to say about the council house but re accident at work: I would urge your partner to get a life insurance/critical illness policy if you can afford it. This means that his income is covered for a period of time in the event of him being unable to work due to injury or illness.

I would also suggest getting married or having a civil partnership- doesn’t mean you have to have a wedding, but does mean you and any future children would be better protected in the event of separation or your partner dying.

lazyarse123 · 26/11/2025 20:25

HoskinsChoice · 26/11/2025 18:12

The OP is a very long post so I'll summarise. Despite being able to afford to be independent of the state, you would like to live in a tax payer supported house that you don't need so that you can give up work whilst blocking the use of the property for someone who actually needs it.

Yes, thats unreasonable and immoral. You know that otherwise you wouldn't have asked. Do the right thing.

(And if you won't do it for someone who needs it, do it for yourself. There is nothing that is economically sensible about renting instead of buying).

Council houses are not subsidised by the tax payer. So op should stay put.

PeonyPatch · 26/11/2025 20:23

I’ve honestly done the wrong thing in life saving up and getting on to the property ladder. I should’ve had kids at 18 and got a council property……

PigeonsandSquirrels · 26/11/2025 20:21

So you only pay £5,760 a year in rent but you earn £61k a year between you… I don’t see why you don’t have a lot more than 16k saved tbh. What are you spending the extra 47,000 after tax on?

AInightingale · 26/11/2025 20:21

People who earn too much, or are under-occupied should be kicked out ASAP.
That just disincentivises people, so they choose to live on benefits longer or work fewer hours so they don't fall foul of an eviction order!
Councils do need to get tougher on under occupation though. They won't touch the homes of people over sixty, which is extremely unfair to young families on the waiting list.

BreatheAndFocus · 26/11/2025 20:20

So your joint income is currently £61k? I can’t believe you’re considering staying and stopping someone else far worse off than you getting the property. That’s the issue. Yes, technically you’re allowed to, but IMO morally it’s wrong. It’s not even like you’re borderline struggling. Council houses are for people in need. Move on and let someone worse off than you have it, eg a single parent stuck in emergency accommodation.

And why do you need a 3 bed house? Get on the property ladder with a 2 bed and you’ll be fine.

comeandhaveteawithme · 26/11/2025 20:17

JollyLilacBee · 26/11/2025 20:13

Why do people think council house rent is subsidised? Is it because it’s lower than private rental? If so, it SHOULD be lower.

As an example, my cousin moved recently into a council house, and my sister into a private rental, about £200 per month difference in rent. The council house was a total shell, no appliances, no carpets or flooring, filthy bare walls, radiators with pain peeling off, garden a disgusting mess…. The private rental is lovely, fully carpeted, walls freshly painted in neutral colours (and will be refreshed every 3 years), some kitchen appliances built in, garden neat and tidy and easily maintained. Over a 3 year period, it will cost my cousin a lot more in her council house with everything taken into account

The difference isn't just the rent (and £200 is actually a decent amount and saving that monthly can make a big difference to someone's life), it's the security.

Your sister could lose her home at the whim of her landlord in two months flat.

Your cousin - not so much.

PeonyPatch · 26/11/2025 20:17

JollyLilacBee · 26/11/2025 20:13

Why do people think council house rent is subsidised? Is it because it’s lower than private rental? If so, it SHOULD be lower.

As an example, my cousin moved recently into a council house, and my sister into a private rental, about £200 per month difference in rent. The council house was a total shell, no appliances, no carpets or flooring, filthy bare walls, radiators with pain peeling off, garden a disgusting mess…. The private rental is lovely, fully carpeted, walls freshly painted in neutral colours (and will be refreshed every 3 years), some kitchen appliances built in, garden neat and tidy and easily maintained. Over a 3 year period, it will cost my cousin a lot more in her council house with everything taken into account

that is because benefits and council housing are for people who NEED it.

Why should tax payers be paying for luxury homes for people when they themselves are propping up the country? I’ve no issue supporting my local community but when we are scrimping and saving and drowning in bills and wages that are stagnant, why do others get to exploit the system? Too many takers in this country.

CoralPombear · 26/11/2025 20:15

comeandhaveteawithme · 26/11/2025 20:06

Oh how embarrassing for her, being assumed to rent when she owns 🙄

Does she think she's better than renters because her husband got sold a cheap house?

Edited

I think it’s more that they can afford not to live where they do but he is quite money savvy and doesn’t see any reason to leave just for appearances.

comeandhaveteawithme · 26/11/2025 20:14

HoskinsChoice · 26/11/2025 20:09

This!

We need a system that reviews the need for a council house on an annual basis. They should be a temporary solution to bail people out when they need it not a life choice.

I don't necessarily think they should be temporary.

I just think they should be there for people that need them. If you need one your whole life then fine.
But the second you don't you should be given your notice.

You wouldn't be allowed to stay on benefits and earn £85k, so why was my MIL allowed to rent a home from a council at £50% below market rate when she didn't need it, and struggling families that could have had her huge house were left paying twice what she did for 1 or 2 bed flats?

JollyLilacBee · 26/11/2025 20:13

Why do people think council house rent is subsidised? Is it because it’s lower than private rental? If so, it SHOULD be lower.

As an example, my cousin moved recently into a council house, and my sister into a private rental, about £200 per month difference in rent. The council house was a total shell, no appliances, no carpets or flooring, filthy bare walls, radiators with pain peeling off, garden a disgusting mess…. The private rental is lovely, fully carpeted, walls freshly painted in neutral colours (and will be refreshed every 3 years), some kitchen appliances built in, garden neat and tidy and easily maintained. Over a 3 year period, it will cost my cousin a lot more in her council house with everything taken into account

PeonyPatch · 26/11/2025 20:13

comeandhaveteawithme · 26/11/2025 20:05

I don't blame you for staying but you absolutely shouldn't be allowed to.

Council houses should be for people that need one. There's a housing crisis and families in temporary bedsits (have you ever been in one of those places? the ones near us are full of drug users and they leave their needles in the communal toilets, imagine having to check for needles every time your child needs a wee).

People who earn too much, or are under-occupied should be kicked out ASAP.

My MIL was earning £85k a year and lived alone in a beautiful three bed council home with a large garden and conservatory she got when her kids were small which she paid about a quarter of what we paid privately for our poking two-bed flat. It makes me sick, frankly.

But as I said, can't really blame you (it's selfish, but people often do selfish things for their families), but I do blame the rules. I think the choice should be taken off you.

I agree. I think councils ought to be vetting their tenants a bit more frequently and throughly. You are taking away a property for those in need.

HoskinsChoice · 26/11/2025 20:09

comeandhaveteawithme · 26/11/2025 20:05

I don't blame you for staying but you absolutely shouldn't be allowed to.

Council houses should be for people that need one. There's a housing crisis and families in temporary bedsits (have you ever been in one of those places? the ones near us are full of drug users and they leave their needles in the communal toilets, imagine having to check for needles every time your child needs a wee).

People who earn too much, or are under-occupied should be kicked out ASAP.

My MIL was earning £85k a year and lived alone in a beautiful three bed council home with a large garden and conservatory she got when her kids were small which she paid about a quarter of what we paid privately for our poking two-bed flat. It makes me sick, frankly.

But as I said, can't really blame you (it's selfish, but people often do selfish things for their families), but I do blame the rules. I think the choice should be taken off you.

This!

We need a system that reviews the need for a council house on an annual basis. They should be a temporary solution to bail people out when they need it not a life choice.

HoskinsChoice · 26/11/2025 20:07

HungaryForLove · 26/11/2025 17:35

I have considered this. The way I see it though is that the reduced rent is what allows many people to otherwise support themselves and stay off needing further benefits. There’s loads of people in council housing who can technically afford to buy or private rent but if you kick them out of the council housing they will end up needing support in other ways in the future as they could only afford mortgage/private rent by the skin of their teeth. If we were to buy now we’d end up with no savings or safety buffer, all it would take is for DP to have an accident at work and become disabled for us to be thrown back under the poverty line and needing UC, or would only take the car or boiler breaking down for us to end up needing a £5000 loan which would then spiral.

we have no intention of ever claiming housing benefit.

Edited

Literally anyone could have an accident on benefits. If we housed everyone who 'might' have an accident the entire working population would be in council housing. And yes, there are many people who could buy but instead choose to sponge off the tax payers. Do you want sink to their level? You're making excuses. Just do the right thing.

comeandhaveteawithme · 26/11/2025 20:06

CoralPombear · 26/11/2025 19:55

It’s up to you guys, I think you’d be sensible to stay and save if you can. I know a couple in a similar position, the house was his mother’s which he bought from the council v cheaply and whereas he knows he is onto a good thing and is keen to stay, she hates raising their dc on a council estate and people assuming they rent when they’ve bought and is desperate to get out of there.

Oh how embarrassing for her, being assumed to rent when she owns 🙄

Does she think she's better than renters because her husband got sold a cheap house?

Bearbookagainandagain · 26/11/2025 20:06

Your incomes aren't huge compared to your savings and rent.
If you could afford to pay for a deposit + have some savings (5-10k), + keep your mortgage to about the same as your current rent, then it would be unreasonable to stay but right now I don't think you're really in a position to buy.

You might be technically able to, but it doesn't mean it's the reasonable and responsible thing to do.

comeandhaveteawithme · 26/11/2025 20:05

I don't blame you for staying but you absolutely shouldn't be allowed to.

Council houses should be for people that need one. There's a housing crisis and families in temporary bedsits (have you ever been in one of those places? the ones near us are full of drug users and they leave their needles in the communal toilets, imagine having to check for needles every time your child needs a wee).

People who earn too much, or are under-occupied should be kicked out ASAP.

My MIL was earning £85k a year and lived alone in a beautiful three bed council home with a large garden and conservatory she got when her kids were small which she paid about a quarter of what we paid privately for our poking two-bed flat. It makes me sick, frankly.

But as I said, can't really blame you (it's selfish, but people often do selfish things for their families), but I do blame the rules. I think the choice should be taken off you.

quitefranklyabsurd · 26/11/2025 20:01

He didn’t inherit it’s called succession of tenancy. And yes. Of course you should move out

PyongyangKipperbang · 26/11/2025 19:55

PeonyPatch · 26/11/2025 19:51

I don’t care - it shouldn’t be a choice. It should be for those who need it.

She does need it. They cant afford to buy on the figures she has quoted and would (again based on those figures and the fact that for a similar sized house in rent it would probably cost more than a mortgage) struggle to privately rent. They would lose the secure home that they pay full rent for, thus increasing money going into the pot for the LA to plough into more homes. Housing Benefit is taking money from one pot and putting into another, nothing more is going in.

Working tenants like @HungaryForLove and her DP who pay full rent are actually subsidising everyone else!

CoralPombear · 26/11/2025 19:55

It’s up to you guys, I think you’d be sensible to stay and save if you can. I know a couple in a similar position, the house was his mother’s which he bought from the council v cheaply and whereas he knows he is onto a good thing and is keen to stay, she hates raising their dc on a council estate and people assuming they rent when they’ve bought and is desperate to get out of there.

ThejoyofNC · 26/11/2025 19:53

Do you not realise how many people in desperate situations are on years long waiting lists for council housing? And to make things worse there are two of you in a bloody 3 bed.

PeonyPatch · 26/11/2025 19:53

Trumpisacunt · 26/11/2025 19:52

Can you not exercise your right to buy ? Buy the property that you are in with the discount and then sell in 5 years and move to a better area ?

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