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To be delighted PIP assessments are to be face to face?

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PAYE · 26/11/2025 14:04

The only good thing about the budget is that Rachel Reeves announced that face to face assessments for PIP and disability benefits are being brought back. AIBU to think that this is a great thing?

It will make sure that the money goes to those who need it. It is madness that such face to face assessments were ever stopped.

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WendyErica · 26/11/2025 19:16

Zeborah · 26/11/2025 19:14

You can travel & go on holiday and still be eligible for PIP. Helped by others, assistance at airports and on flights & travelling companion, coach journeys, mobility scooters etc etc

No! You must not! You should sit in darkness and thank the taxpayer while repenting.

Zeborah · 26/11/2025 19:14

You can travel & go on holiday and still be eligible for PIP. Helped by others, assistance at airports and on flights & travelling companion, coach journeys, mobility scooters etc etc

WendyErica · 26/11/2025 19:13

THESE BENEFITS BASHING THREADS ARE SO BORING

MsPavlichenko · 26/11/2025 19:12

deepseaargyllfish · 26/11/2025 14:11

How often though? And when will it start? As I’ve mentioned on another thread, I know someone travelling around south-east Asia. Claiming PIP and disability allowance and UC. Has a flat paid for by the state which has her stuff in it but is otherwise unoccupied.

She feels confident to continue her holiday / travelling, because her claim isn't reassessed until 2027.

What disability allowance is that? Over and above PIP and UC?

WendyErica · 26/11/2025 19:12

Woollyguru · 26/11/2025 19:10

He didn't tell me. He told my DCs, his cousins. They're all about the same age and very close. My DCs then told me.

Yeah he told me too. Then we had a great conversation about the earth being flat and him dating Jennifer Aniston

Woollyguru · 26/11/2025 19:10

Kirbert2 · 26/11/2025 19:05

Let me guess.

He couldn't wait to tell you about how he lied and said he couldn't leave the house and went on to brag about how easy it was to get PIP?

He didn't tell me. He told my DCs, his cousins. They're all about the same age and very close. My DCs then told me.

WendyErica · 26/11/2025 19:10

LionelMushroom · 26/11/2025 19:08

The DWP’s own data says that PIP fraud is 0.4% so statistically negligible, this would indicate that it’s already going to those who genuinely need it.

I’d rather they stopped wasting money by putting people with lifelong disabilities through pointless reassessment and stopped automatically declining applications with a raft of supporting medical evidence, imagining their 30 minute read is superior to consultant/ GP/ Occ Health knowledge of the person, only to have the decision overturned at tribunal - which happens in about 70% of cases.

Valid. Nothing more to say really.

BatshitOutofHell · 26/11/2025 19:10

I think I actually hate this government and the implications of strategies like this one. The most vulnerable in our society are being policed and interrogated. As long as Keir Starmer is leader of the Party this lifelong Labour voter will never vote for them again. Zack Polanski has my vote.

LionelMushroom · 26/11/2025 19:08

The DWP’s own data says that PIP fraud is 0.4% so statistically negligible, this would indicate that it’s already going to those who genuinely need it.

I’d rather they stopped wasting money by putting people with lifelong disabilities through pointless reassessment and stopped automatically declining applications with a raft of supporting medical evidence, imagining their 30 minute read is superior to consultant/ GP/ Occ Health knowledge of the person, only to have the decision overturned at tribunal - which happens in about 70% of cases.

Howdoyoudodoyoudo · 26/11/2025 19:08

I am not.

My son has big struggles but is in massive denial. He thinks he can do everything, travel the world alone, needs no help etc.

In fact , he does , but he gets very upset and self critical so I have to make out it’s ok everyone needs help , I’m washing your hair to help you because of time etc. I am taking you here because I worry not because you can’t travel alone. He goes on a bus and I follow the bus in my car. His transport was removed so I put him on the bus and track him the whole way sending him in to an unsafe world as there is no option. He cannot do these things completely safely and I do a lot because of this but if someone asks him he will say he can do everything fine. Then he will lose his money, and be heartbroken when he realises he can’t get a job and he has nothing. There needs to be allowances .

Locutus2000 · 26/11/2025 19:06

Themagicfarawaytreeismyfav · 26/11/2025 18:12

Absolute rubbish! My ds claims pip for a medical condition and they have never accessed his medical records or contacted his doctor! He has never provided any evidence other than the form to apply! Benefit fraud is not minuscule, its a massive problem with only tiny amounts of it being detected. I literally know lots of people who commit benefit fraud and have done for years!

Genuine question, how fucking stupid do you think people are?

Although this thread kinda answers that.

Kirbert2 · 26/11/2025 19:05

Woollyguru · 26/11/2025 19:01

I have a nephew who claimed PIP due to a medical condition. He had a phone assessment, lied and said he couldn't leave the house. He was awarded PIP and next thing you know he's on holiday halfway around the world. He also has a car and drives around quite happily.

Let me guess.

He couldn't wait to tell you about how he lied and said he couldn't leave the house and went on to brag about how easy it was to get PIP?

GETTINGLIKEMYMOTHER · 26/11/2025 19:05

youalright · 26/11/2025 19:01

@GETTINGLIKEMYMOTHERme to all my consultants just wrote in my medical records that I have multiple organ failure and that i will live a significantly shorter life just for a laugh so that I could claim pip 🤣🤣🤣

When have I said or suggested that anyone genuinely entitled shouldn’t get PIP?

WendyErica · 26/11/2025 19:02

youalright · 26/11/2025 18:58

I agree I think thats fair, got to treat everyone equally

Indeed. There documenting every contraction. Got to prove that baby isn't made up!

Woollyguru · 26/11/2025 19:01

Nospringchix · 26/11/2025 18:46

I agree, this is an awful thread.

Those who are gleeful at this could become chronically ill and or disabled themselves any time, there but for the grace of god etc.
I suppose they will feel differently if it happens to them or their loved ones.

I have a nephew who claimed PIP due to a medical condition. He had a phone assessment, lied and said he couldn't leave the house. He was awarded PIP and next thing you know he's on holiday halfway around the world. He also has a car and drives around quite happily.

youalright · 26/11/2025 19:01

Overthemhills · 26/11/2025 18:57

@GETTINGLIKEMYMOTHER

Sure, we all are!
Come join us..
My disabled daughter needs a bath. Can you carry her after changing her incontinence pad please? I’m tired from duping the system

@GETTINGLIKEMYMOTHERme to all my consultants just wrote in my medical records that I have multiple organ failure and that i will live a significantly shorter life just for a laugh so that I could claim pip 🤣🤣🤣

Contrarymary30 · 26/11/2025 19:00

Simonjt · 26/11/2025 14:12

My husband has arthrogryposis and essentially no use of his arms or hands, he had a face to face assessment. He scored zero, the ‘medical professional’ also said she witnessed him lifting a full kettle, not only is that physically impossible for him, there wasn’t even one in the room. The problem we have is that assessors don’t receive any consequenes for telling lies, these lies cost both time and money.

So true , my son scored 0 after having a stroke and losing the sight in one eye. He was very confused in the aftermath of the stroke, I think the 'medical professional ' thought he was being awkward saying he couldn't remember things . He found it very stressful so won't appeal.

Tessisme · 26/11/2025 18:58

The rates are insanely unfair as someone who has no physical disability but "anxiety" get the same amount as someone experiencing lifelong severely debilitating conditions such as MS, Cancer, SLD, Blindness, Limb loss etc. It's madness.

Why have you put anxiety in inverted commas @RavenclawWitchy as if it’s made up or somehow inferior to other conditions? My son has OCD, an ANXIETY disorder. His life has shrunk to the size of his bedroom. He doesn’t attend school. He barely eats. I have to help him with personal care. I could go on. But sure it’s nothing. Just ‘anxiety’🙄 Just because you can’t see it with your judgemental eyeballs, doesn’t mean it isn’t severely debilitating. Come and look after him for a day and see how that goes for you.

Everlore · 26/11/2025 18:58

askmenow · 26/11/2025 17:07

Report her! Thats unconscionable conduct and fraud. Sooner we clamp down on PIP fraudsters the better because any system needs to be proven to be fair.

At the moment we have an evidently unfair benefits system, which is open to abuse.
We need a well advertised whistleblower website to clamp down on cheats.

You do realise that disabled people can travel don't you? If you are going to report everyone who goes on holiday while claiming PIP as potential fraudsters to the DWP purely on the basis that they can't both be disabled and go on holiday you'll be wasting a lot of time and resources and causing potential distress to genuinely disabled people. As I said in a previous post, I have been on many holidays throughout my life and no amount of foreign travel has caused the eyes I was born without to develop so still very much disabled.

youalright · 26/11/2025 18:58

WendyErica · 26/11/2025 18:56

I would also like to see child benefit assessors in the labour room while the mother is crowning while we're at it BTW.

I agree I think thats fair, got to treat everyone equally

Overthemhills · 26/11/2025 18:57

@GETTINGLIKEMYMOTHER

Sure, we all are!
Come join us..
My disabled daughter needs a bath. Can you carry her after changing her incontinence pad please? I’m tired from duping the system

WendyErica · 26/11/2025 18:56

I would also like to see child benefit assessors in the labour room while the mother is crowning while we're at it BTW.

Overthemhills · 26/11/2025 18:55

Benefits badgers again 🤣🤣 - badgers obvs.

WhyCantISayFork · 26/11/2025 18:55

My DH was visited by an assessor with no medical background or qualifications. She had an active cold and my DH was on immunosuppressants. She could have killed him. What’s wrong with listening to the doctors and experts about these things? How does a capita assessor improve anything for anyone?

GETTINGLIKEMYMOTHER · 26/11/2025 18:55

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