To be delighted PIP assessments are to be face to face?

It is a cousin. No idea if Paisley is male or female. I wouldn’t presume to guess

paisleys post attached if you forgot it or can’t find it

The issue of free
A lot of people consider money given for nothing as free. ( technically it is tax money so earned by others and not growing on trees so technically it’s not free )
It’s not an unknown or in any way unusual concept to regard this money as free because it is money given for nothing in return ie not earned.

I’m surprised you’ve never heard of this term before

It’s a cousin !!!
Relatives tend to stay relatives no matter what they get up to.

It’s a dna connection thing

Who is also your cousin as I spotted your post upthread
dna is crucial 🤣 or not ?!?!

was that uber free btw

Do nice people remain best friends with someone who cheats? Surely that is the more pertinent question here since apparently overt benefits fraud doesn't seem to have been a deal-breaker for this poster!

T'was actually my uber driver's step granny's sister 😈😂

I think accusing me of not reading the post when you keep referring to this poster's definitely not imaginary benefits cheat chum as her cousin is highly amusing!
I really have read her posts and, in the unlikely event that this person exists and is actually knoown to the poster, it doesn't change the fact that that is not what free means. I think you know this too. Unless, of course, you go round meticulously inspecting all purchases to ascertain which exact ones have been bought with money derived from any form of benefits, including state pension and child benefit, and then insist on describing those items as 'free'. If this is the case then you are at least being consistent but I am unsure how exactly you could pinpoint which exact pound in a PIP claimant's bank account came from PIP and from their wages.

I’m so pleased that you are delighted. I just hope you never have to go through the process. As someone with a degenerative neurological condition exacerbated by stress it will be just wonderful to be in a position where I lose control of my limbs, speech and my memory fails me in front of someone who doesn’t know me and to be able to be face to face with someone that I haven’t met before when I have to explain the humiliating details related to my difficulties with personal care. It’s was bad enough for two hours on the phone but now all dignity will go out of the window. But you’re happy about it, maybe you would like to come along as a special treat.

Can you clarify
Friend
Relative
Random person
Aparently it’s really significant 😆

Wrong.

Nice people don’t cheat so 🤷

I’m aware of this yes
but it’s not relevant to my post

People are always going on about it not being an out of work benefit ( I know btw) but fail to read the examples posters are siting

This one is @PaisleyGilmourStreets cousin that doesnt work

As Paisley has agreed to my post they do indeed mean

free = unearned

and I think some posters would rather argue the toss and pretend they just can’t possibly comprehend the obvious.

No contortions necessary. Thanks for clarifying Paisley

Also, this allegedly blatant benefits cheat isn't the poster's cousin, she's apparently one of her oldest friends who she seemingly also can't stand. Friendship is a beautiful thing, isn't it?

It might not be the case for pp's cousin but many people pay an advanced payment for a car and in a lot of cases, it can be thousands of pounds and come from their own money.

@CandidLurker I assumed ESA was for when SSP runs out? It's honestly a head spinner. My secondaries nurse said I am eligible to some bits that aren't means tested. I'm sure I'll find out what soon. Thank you for your advice.

Once again, PIP is not an out of work benefit. Also, the linguistic contortions one would have to perform to make the word 'free' mean what you are suggesting this poster thinks it means are quite some feat!

I’m assuming @PaisleyGilmourStreet means
a ‘free’ car

in terms of
It’s paid for via benefits. So not earned income through work as her cousin doesn't work.

technically it can’t be considered free as it’s funded by the tax payer but I suppose it depends whether you are the provider or not.

I can't believe this needs explaining yet again but, since you seem to have missed this explanation the last several hundred times posters have patiently attempted to deliver it, a car on the motibility scheme is not free. If one is in receipt of the higher rate of mobility of PIP one may choose to exchange their monthly mobility payment for a vehicle or electric wheelchair. So, in fact, your good friend (whom you really seem to hate by the way!), pays part of her PIP for her car, thus it is very much not free. If she did not have the car she would be getting the money instead so it would be saving poor hard-working tax-payers like you and I precisely nothing.
Oh, before I forget, she doesn't own the car, with or without personalised number plate! The Motibility scheme only pays for the lease of the car, she will have to hand it back after three years. Many people also have to put a substantial down-payment on Motibility payments in order to get one that fits their needs or pay a considerable amount to adapt a vehicle to their disability. They do not get this money back when they return the vehicle and have to pay all over again to adapt their next one, which they also won't own.
Hope that helps, though I very much doubt that it will stop you, or people just like you, popping up on countless future threads to trot out the same predictable complaints about free cars being handed out!

Excuse my unscholarliness in the acute intricacies of the benefits system. Perhaps gratis, in terms of transport, is more palatable? Because besides for petrol, she doesn't pay a bean towards the car (she's also got a personalised plate on it. In fairness, I can't blame you for thinking I'm making it up; it really is beyond parody).

I made crystal clear in both my comments the type to whom my frustration is directed. You're on a jolly here (maybe you're bored) if you're seriously suggesting there are not people who play the system.

This is absolutely true but I fear you are very much wasting your time trying to get some of the ignorant commenters on here, for whom all PIP claimants are work-shy scroungers, to actually acknowledge these facts. On every tedious and depressing PIP-bashing thread like this, countless posters turn up to patiently explain that PIP is not means-tested and that, therefore, one can work and still claim it, and once again, thread after thread fills up with ignorant and outrageously offensive comments from bitter and unpleasant bigots who have no idea how the system works, will not listen to explanations from those who actually do know how it works and are convinced that they are the experts on the subject, despite demonstrating repeatedly that they certainly are not!

I think if you are going through chemo you will be effectively rubber stamped for ESA and put in the support group so no work requirements and need for fit notes etc. Not sure on PIP. I’ve had chemo myself and have not claimed but obviously chemo can affect people differently over the long term. I didn’t even claim ESA because I didn’t realize I would have qualified. If I’d known I would have.

Not everyone seems to realise that many people who receive PIP do work, it’s not a benefit for people who can’t work because of disability. It’s also not about what disability you have, it’s what help you require because of your disability.

I wonder if this old friend knows you have nothing but contempt for her and believe her to be a lying, deceitful benefits cheat? Mind you, it obviously doesn't bother you that much since you are still apparently friends so I guess benefits fraud doesn't outrage you as much as you protestit does!
I can't say I am losing sleep over this person's alleged crimes either since I believe she's about as real and existent as most of the other benefits cheats bogeymen being conjured up on this thread! Once again, in the unlikely event that any of these people actually exist and are genuinely known to these commenters and aren't just an elaborate fever dream concocted after reading one too many lurid Daily Mail articles, their candour is most surprising to me. One would think that, if one were engaged in an elaborate scheme to defraud the government, one would be a trifle reticent about sharing precise details of this crime with every nosy parker who asks. Maybe fraudsters are just more charmingly garrulous than I had realised!

Judging by half the posts on Mumsnet I occasionally wonder if some actually ARE pip assessors 😬🤔

Oh, I missed that particular nugget in my initial reading of that comment. This poster really is pulling out all the stops to fill their disabled benefits bashing bingo card. 'Playing the system', vague anecdote about, absolutely not imaginary, relative who has supposedly been engaged in benefits fraud for decades unchallenged and a free car thrown in for good measure. All the greatest hits right here! Bravo!