Absolutely rinsed in this budget - almost £1k a year worse off.

I work within the criminal justice system, and yes you're right, it should afford me a basic standard of living.But little or no pay rises over the last 15 years along with the cost of living increase means I have less and less each year to fund myself and 2 DC on.

It closed the loophole of self employed contractors setting up a limited company, paying themselves £10k a year salary and taking the rest as dividends at corporation tax rates rather than paying income tax.

You think having more than a spare £12k net a year to save isn't. I guess you must be one of those MNetters who are high earning then and ignore the realities of what an average wage is before any living expenses are deducted.

Perhaps a survey of who has a spare £12k plus floating around each year should be done.

That's just semantics, the tax people pay will increase and tax burden has gone up by £66bn since labour were elected.

You can’t answer , because there isn’t an answer. It’s not about calming down, it’s about putting stuff out there as if it’s fact, when it isn’t. I don’t disagree by the way with the fact the country has far too many piss takers, it has them too at a corporate level and has for many years , however I do disagree with posts trying to make it all about ‘awful terrible government and tax rises etc’ which when you actually look at it arent tax rises but closing loopholes or reducing allowances for people who can afford to save ‘a lot’ - whilst it’s advisable, these days you are indeed in a fortunate position if you can do that - I’m anti removing the 2 child cap as it happens but some things I feel are always done for political purpose, the Tory’s did lots.
there have been quite a few positive things too that rarely get a look in whilst people froth about benefit claimants that strangely they didn’t froth about under the Tory’s- clearly the media didn’t think it worth mentioning then -

You can’t answer , because there isn’t an answer. It’s not about calming down, it’s about putting stuff out there as if it’s fact, when it isn’t. I don’t disagree by the way with the fact the country has far too many piss takers, it has them too at a corporate level and has for many years , however I do disagree with posts trying to make it all about ‘awful terrible government and tax rises etc’ which when you actually look at it arent tax rises but closing loopholes or reducing allowances for people who can afford to save ‘a lot’ - whilst it’s advisable, these days you are indeed in a fortunate position if you can do that - I’m anti removing the 2 child cap as it happens but some things I feel are always done for political purpose, the Tory’s did lots.
there have been quite a few positive things too that rarely get a look in whilst people froth about benefit claimants that strangely they didn’t froth about under the Tory’s- clearly the media didn’t think it worth mentioning then -

There is an answer. It’s the £26bn in tax banding. Most of it anyway. That hits middle earners.

You can’t answer , because there isn’t an answer. It’s not about calming down, it’s about putting stuff out there as if it’s fact, when it isn’t. I don’t disagree by the way with the fact the country has far too many piss takers, it has them too at a corporate level and has for many years , however I do disagree with posts trying to make it all about ‘awful terrible government and tax rises etc’ which when you actually look at it arent tax rises but closing loopholes or reducing allowances for people who can afford to save ‘a lot’ - whilst it’s advisable, these days you are indeed in a fortunate position if you can do that - I’m anti removing the 2 child cap as it happens but some things I feel are always done for political purpose, the Tory’s did lots.
there have been quite a few positive things too that rarely get a look in whilst people froth about benefit claimants that strangely they didn’t froth about under the Tory’s- clearly the media didn’t think it worth mentioning then -

Omg calm down. Whats interesting in these threads is that I’ve been perfectly polite to you but all you is be aggressive in your reply demanding answers. So no I’m not going to bother to answer you.

I work within the criminal justice system, and yes you're right, it should afford me a basic standard of living.But little or no pay rises over the last 15 years along with the cost of living increase means I have less and less each year to fund myself and 2 DC on.

What do you do if you don't mind us asking? It seems mad the civil service doesn't pay enough to live off. I always assumed the starting pay was above minimum wage at least?

What do you do if you don't mind us asking? It seems mad the civil service doesn't pay enough to live off. I always assumed the starting pay was above minimum wage at least?

People should be paid a living wage so they should not have to claim benefit's.

People should be paid a living wage so they should not have to claim benefit's.

you should always earn more through working than claiming benefits

Most benefit claimants work, doing vital jobs in society that you will utilise. I'm a civil servant who in practice doesn't even get a liveable wage. Its madness that i work for the government but they don't pay me enough to live on.

10 years ago I was married, working part time allowing my ExH to forge a better paid career. He then decided he did not want the responsibility of a family and kids with SEN and left. But I seem to be vilified for being the parent that stayed and having to claim UC.

If I leave to get a better paid job (I've tried trust me) someone else will replace me on the same low paid wage and claim UC. I will also lose an above average pension, so how is that good planning. I took this job for the long term benefits, maternity, pension etc.

People don't chose to be in poverty. There are so many nuances that you cant see until you find yourself fin that position. I will be about £10 worse off a month under this budget, I need that £10 but i understand taxes need to be paid.

I have a feeling I need that £10 more than the OP 'NEEDS' the extra money she will be paying in tax. I don't relish in the OP having to pay more.

There is no perfect solution, someone will always pay more, pay less, be advantaged or disadvantaged.

Well he should be working and providing for his child. No one should be better off on benefits rather than working.

How do you know it will make any difference to the actual children? puts more money in their parents pocket, but no guarantee the children actually see any benefit.

If you are on the poverty line and can't support 2 children, perhaps don't have a 3rd...

Some people just dont have the same perception of income like the rest of us. Try being a pensioner whose additional pension that was supposed to be giving the safety net is now set to go almost completely on tax. Or the lower wage earner who cant afford to pay into a pension because he struggles to buy shoes his kids need. Who would be better off on benefits but has his pride. My heart does not bleed for you

Omg calm down. Whats interesting in these threads is that I’ve been perfectly polite to you but all you is be aggressive in your reply demanding answers. So no I’m not going to bother to answer you.

Answer the question - what income tax rises were there? You can’t, because there were not any . Stop trolling hysteria - it’s very clear there is big money out there by the right wing creating the aggrieved agenda rather than actually reporting news and lots of people are gullible enough to be pulled into it too . People like to moan and to be honest I have very little sympathy with lots of them who voted for Brexit and have basically stuffed the country for around 4-6% of GDP , plus given a lot of our more interesting business to the EU on a plate-
I don’t agree with everything Labour do , I want us back in EU/EEA for business/trade reasons-I don’t agree with the 2 child cap being lifted , declaring my hand I vote Lib Dem but I analyse media a lot as part of my job and I know when posts are being created or posted on to create political agitation - you have posted about tax rises but there were none about things you have no choice in ie income tax- the only thing to me that is borderline is mansion tax and re evaluating houses and I’m not exactly in a tizz about that - we rent an F banded house, but nowhere near 2 million and as an end terrace admittedly in a nice area I’m pretty sure it won’t be band G - if it was then it’s cheaper to pay than move if I’m honest. Maybe people will vote differently but as the country has been stuffed by the right wing already in the last 14 years be careful what you wish for - I suspect once he can’t write policies on the back of a fag packet and they need to be funded and balanced he will be shown up for the utter bullshitting spiv he is and nothing will change at all - if the working class think he’s interested in them they are in for a shock , he’s interested in himself

It's really not.

Yes that was the promise! But I meant that Reeves plan when she actually did the budget was to make higher earners, like this poster, pay a bit more tax

Why was it supposed to do that? It was meant to have no tax hikes after the last one.