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Absolutely rinsed in this budget - almost £1k a year worse off.

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Mushroo · 26/11/2025 13:43

Honestly in despair at this government. On a very high level calc, we are so much worse off!

We both pay a lot into pensions, so the NI change is about £700 a year worse off.

We have an EV car, so based on our 4k a year mileage, it’s about £120 a year. (Although how it will be enforced I have no idea).

Stagnating tax thresholds, probably about £100 a year between us.

Council tax F house (4 bed end terrace, not a mansion, needs renovating). So risk of revaluation after having paid a fortune in stamp duty. We didn’t get first time buyer stamp duty relief because we bought about 2 years too early, and we moved before Covid so no relief there either. So overall we’ve paid about £30k in stamp duty already over our lifetime.

Weve already had the private school hit (which is a separate debate and we’ve accepted that) but wow, we are just being kicked on all sides.

We are classic ‘middle earners’ - earn about £70k each, but have mahoosive mortgage and pay over £2k a month in nursery fees already.

Every measure just seems to have a negative effect on our lifestyle, which is ‘comfortable’ but increasingly squeezed.

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randomchap · 26/11/2025 14:22

Swissmeringue · 26/11/2025 14:21

We're absolutely screwed by this budget. Fortunately the pension changes don't come in until 2029 so it gives us time to move abroad which is 100% what we'll be doing.

Good bye, good luck

chouxchoux · 26/11/2025 14:22

TillyTrifle · 26/11/2025 14:20

This. Mumsnet just hates people who are doing ok in life and can’t bear to hear a word of complaint about all these shit policies that are designed to discourage ambition and hard work, from people who have the audacity not to be on minimum wage. It’s embarrassing to read.

Spot on. Some truly embarrassing theatrics in these replies!

Swissmeringue · 26/11/2025 14:21

We're absolutely screwed by this budget. Fortunately the pension changes don't come in until 2029 so it gives us time to move abroad which is 100% what we'll be doing.

FlappicusSmith · 26/11/2025 14:21

Mushroo · 26/11/2025 14:18

Honestly, the point here isn’t that we’re poor or struggling. It’s that the whole budget has absolutely nothing to offer.

We aren’t millionaires, we just have reasonable jobs, long hours and a decent family house.

We just have lifestyle erosion, which most people do, but we seem to have been hit very hard in this particular budget. Which is hard when you do all the ‘right’ things and don’t have much to show for it each month.

But that's the point of a civil society, right?

The economy is in the total shitter. There isn't enough money. The govt has to raise it from somewhere. And probably makes more sense to tax those better off than push those already in poverty deeper.

Leaving aside all the issues of the need for welfare reform, NHS reform, the ageing population, etc. I don't think there's any budget she could have come up with that would actually raise money and wouldn't disadvantage someone.

80smonster · 26/11/2025 14:21

Mushroo · 26/11/2025 13:43

Honestly in despair at this government. On a very high level calc, we are so much worse off!

We both pay a lot into pensions, so the NI change is about £700 a year worse off.

We have an EV car, so based on our 4k a year mileage, it’s about £120 a year. (Although how it will be enforced I have no idea).

Stagnating tax thresholds, probably about £100 a year between us.

Council tax F house (4 bed end terrace, not a mansion, needs renovating). So risk of revaluation after having paid a fortune in stamp duty. We didn’t get first time buyer stamp duty relief because we bought about 2 years too early, and we moved before Covid so no relief there either. So overall we’ve paid about £30k in stamp duty already over our lifetime.

Weve already had the private school hit (which is a separate debate and we’ve accepted that) but wow, we are just being kicked on all sides.

We are classic ‘middle earners’ - earn about £70k each, but have mahoosive mortgage and pay over £2k a month in nursery fees already.

Every measure just seems to have a negative effect on our lifestyle, which is ‘comfortable’ but increasingly squeezed.

The house is worth 2 million +? Council tax band rises only apply to houses of that value.

chouxchoux · 26/11/2025 14:21

OP there are lots of us quietly reading your thread understanding exactly how you are feeling, and agreeing with you.

Obviously there are also lots of very noisy, presumably envious people here shouting at you, who want to give you a hard time about you and your DP working hard and being sensible with your money and pensions.

Ignore the histrionics in these replies. YANBU to feel the way you do.

russiandol · 26/11/2025 14:21

Why aren’t the private school fees in your budget OP?

Itsaknockout235 · 26/11/2025 14:21

Baninarama · 26/11/2025 14:12

Please show your calculations on this one - child benefit for subsequent children is about £17.50 a week or just under £900 a year. These parents are hardly swimming in cash.

It means restored eligibility in means-tested benefits (e.g. Universal Credit / tax-credits child allowance) plus any universal child-benefit payments for the 3rd child (and possibly beyond). This is projected to be an extra 5.3k per year for families on low/no income with 3 children.

popcornandpotatoes · 26/11/2025 14:21

Itsaknockout235 · 26/11/2025 14:11

Watch how this thread fills up with ‘Be gratfeul you’ve got a shirt on your back! Have you got a pot to pee in? If yes, you’re privileged then’

The only time these comments will stop is when all earners, regardless of their hard work, higher education level and greater work-related responsibilities (which triangulate into a higher salary), are reduced to mere homeless wretches.

Well we earn more than op and I think her post is fucking ridiculous.

1k a year is really very little. Maybe it's a lot when earn 12k a year, but not 140k. If you don't want to pay tax or live as a part of a society piss off somewhere else. Then see how much you like it if you lose your job, or become disabled, or your child does, or the roads you travel on to get to work collapse etc etc

TillyTrifle · 26/11/2025 14:20

Teddleshon1 · 26/11/2025 14:19

Just ignore the comments on this thread OP, well done on working hard and being net contributors. An increasingly rare thing in the UK.

This. Mumsnet just hates people who are doing ok in life and can’t bear to hear a word of complaint about all these shit policies that are designed to discourage ambition and hard work, from people who have the audacity not to be on minimum wage. It’s embarrassing to read.

Teddleshon1 · 26/11/2025 14:19

Just ignore the comments on this thread OP, well done on working hard and being net contributors. An increasingly rare thing in the UK.

MannersAreAll · 26/11/2025 14:19

It’s really badly worded and seems to confuse people. It’s not child benefit that was capped. It was universal credit/tax credits that was capped at two children. It was a two-child, benefit cap. Not a two, child-benefit, cap.

Given how common this misunderstanding is I'd love to know how many MP's also thought that - either now or when it was originally brought in.

I bet there was a fair few.

TillyTrifle · 26/11/2025 14:19

FunnyOrca · 26/11/2025 14:01

I am either misunderstanding it or me and everyone I know are completely screwed!

Also, very upset about the ISA situation. I will not be investing, that’s why I was using an ISA! I don’t have that kind of money to gamble.

Investing in an index fund via a stocks and shares over the long term isn’t gambling. It’s almost guaranteed very good returns over the long term. You are not being encouraged to take high risk strategies investing in single company stocks - global tracker funds are an incredibly safe place to put your money as long as you’re comfortable that you won’t absolutely have to access it in the next five years to give you flexibility to ride out dips in the market.

If you need to know you can use your money in the short term without having to consider the state of the market, i.e. your emergency fund or saving for a short term goal, then use a different type of sayings account or your remaining £12k cash isa allowance.

This isn’t about where to put short term savings, it’s about the use of ISAs for long term saving and wealth building.

Mushroo · 26/11/2025 14:18

Honestly, the point here isn’t that we’re poor or struggling. It’s that the whole budget has absolutely nothing to offer.

We aren’t millionaires, we just have reasonable jobs, long hours and a decent family house.

We just have lifestyle erosion, which most people do, but we seem to have been hit very hard in this particular budget. Which is hard when you do all the ‘right’ things and don’t have much to show for it each month.

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ChristmasTimeChristmasJoy · 26/11/2025 14:18

I will save my sympathy for those in povertyZ

MotherWol · 26/11/2025 14:17

Where are you affording school fees and a 4 bed house on £140kpa, because I'd like to move there?!

AnneShirleyBlythe · 26/11/2025 14:17

EsmeArcher · 26/11/2025 13:57

“And DH is public sector so has no choice really”

So your family is funded by tax payers too…

Bit unfair! Her DH is earning that money just as he would be if he was in the private sector.

Shoulam · 26/11/2025 14:17

Baninarama · 26/11/2025 14:12

Please show your calculations on this one - child benefit for subsequent children is about £17.50 a week or just under £900 a year. These parents are hardly swimming in cash.

It’s really badly worded and seems to confuse people. It’s not child benefit that was capped. It was universal credit/tax credits that was capped at two children. It was a two-child, benefit cap. Not a two, child-benefit, cap.

Mumski45 · 26/11/2025 14:16

Are you sure your DH pays pension contributions via a salary sacrifice scheme. I might be wrong but I think this is unusual in the public sector. The term ‘salary sacrifice’ is often misunderstood.

Ambridgefan · 26/11/2025 14:16

You are very lucky to have the income you have. You can afford to pay more
My household income is a third of yours and I would be prepared to pay extra tax to help lift children who are much more disadvantaged than yours out of poverty.

MellowPinkDeer · 26/11/2025 14:16

FallingIntoAutumn · 26/11/2025 14:14

No. No they won’t. The overall benefit cap still applies.

Ooooh brilliant , that’s all fine then. Jesus.

GreenMoonLeaf · 26/11/2025 14:15

Mushroo · 26/11/2025 14:07

Our take home is c.£7k
Nursery fees £2k
Mortgage £2.5k
Commute x 2 £500
Food / petrol / misc £600
Council tax, bills £500
clothes, activities for family of 4 per month: £200

Leaves £700pcm for ALL savings, so holidays, Xmas, birthdays, emergency fund.

Like I say, we’re comfortable, but we absolutely watch every single penny and £84 a month is a lot to us! And not the lifestyle I would imagine if you told me what we earn. It’s just hard working full time, in a high pressure job, not seeing the kids.

Genuinely thinking of leaving the SW, buying a cheap house, and taking a part time job as I’d be less stressed, see the kids more and be about the same per month!

I think the real issue here is how expensive nursery is, which I know can’t be helped. If you didn’t have to pay £2k a month for that you’d feel loaded. We’ve now stopped paying nursery and the difference is huge. I also went part time and the cost was one of the reasons!

FallingIntoAutumn · 26/11/2025 14:14

MellowPinkDeer · 26/11/2025 14:12

People on benefits around 5k a Year better off. An absolute fucking disgrace. Have as MANY kids as you like and some idiot in the middle will pay for them.

shit show.

No. No they won’t. The overall benefit cap still applies.

WimbyAce · 26/11/2025 14:14

Baninarama · 26/11/2025 14:12

Please show your calculations on this one - child benefit for subsequent children is about £17.50 a week or just under £900 a year. These parents are hardly swimming in cash.

It's not the child benefit it's universal credit.

Spirallingdownwards · 26/11/2025 14:13

FunnyOrca · 26/11/2025 14:01

I am either misunderstanding it or me and everyone I know are completely screwed!

Also, very upset about the ISA situation. I will not be investing, that’s why I was using an ISA! I don’t have that kind of money to gamble.

You can still put £12k into a cash ISA. If you have more than that spare a year then you do realise that is a high amount to be able to save a year from net income?