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I agree. I haven't had a pay rise for 2 years, and with the tax threshold staying the same it's getting horrendous. But yay, if you've got loads of kids you get more money. Make it make sense.

Benefits up, taxes up.

Basically if you pay your way, you are punished. Pay more for those that will not take responsibility for their unaffordable lifestyles.

As a lifelong voter they’ve lost me. I will pay more tax, DH will pay more tax.
They’ve screwed our pensions.
Most people aren’t having children because it’s not a nice world to bring them into.
Having children is a lifestyle choice.

Basically Labour now means- aim low, don’t save anything, don’t get a good job, pop out as many kids as you can. 👍🏼It will not prevent child poverty- imo.

This government is worse than Liz Truss.

Our debt interest is higher than it was under Liz Truss.

Hopefully Reeves is on her way out, closely followed out by the rest of these incompetent idiots.

Me and my large family have one response to your complaining… (please see gif).

Maybe focus on your own life.
We struggle enough as it is, and believe me nobody will have less kids because they’re being forced to, so lifting this cap to stop kids living in poverty for the decisions of their parents was the right thing to do.
No matter how much you bitter folk seem to think it isn’t.

I’m willing to bet you’re above a certain age, own your own home/have social housing that your kids grew up in and gleefully took any handouts you could when your kids were small. It’s always the way with posts like these.

Edited to add: Maybe we should stop state pensions? No, because that would be abhorrent. People can’t help growing old, just the same as kids can’t help being born.
Most people I see using public services are elderly.
Buses with their passes, GP surgeries and A&E rammed full of them every time I go.
Should it only be the old that are looked after?
and who do you think will care for them if people stop having kids because they can’t afford to?

You carry on making spiteful, bitter threads.
I’m going to bed with a little bit of hope tonight that life might not be all that bad after all!

Lots of workers claim benefits too. Lots of workers have help in the form of top up benefits, universal credit or help with rent and council tax. Some workers also get disability benefits.

Biggest spend from benefits is pensioners, the state pension is a benefit.

This is going to be an interesting and well informed debate, I’m sure.

Increased min wage
frozen tax bands
EV per per mile
extra council tax >£2m
reduction in salary sacrifice pensions
reduction in isa tax free

what have I missed? What is your concern about OP?

You don't want benefits reformed, do you? You want them stopped. Sod the vulnerable in society. It's their fault for not being rich/well paid/able-bodied.

Joke thread. Is there a Reformnet where all this rancour can be ah....ventilated?

I'm gonna be living on grass and pebbles if she takes anything more from me. I think it's also illegal to remove stones from the environment so I'll get arrested to boot 😭

I'm sure any money they do raise will be spent wisely and prudently and not at all wasted on the usual rubbish.