To think joke Chancellor Joke Budget joke Government

This budget frightens me more because they are not squeezing anyone - it’s extremely light touch and I do wonder how they will be able to support the health service with no extra money

And if I’m feeling extra bored later i might make it into its own thread 😉

Yeah because it’s a good point and a lot of people are thinking it

@kornwall Thanks. I'll have a read.

This is at least the second thread you've posted this exact comment on.

I don’t understand what’s so bad about it. I mean there’s nothing great in it either but seems pretty neutral to me.

Scraping the two child limit must be a joke? I’m not perfect got pregnant at 15 fave birth at 16 but 4+ kids by 4 different dads and expecting other peoples taxes to pay is surely taking the piss?
I mean seriously? Raising taxes for THIS?? I doubt many people will vote labour again

It's a time honoured 'joke' that the outgoing Chancellor leaves some kind of message like this. Here's another example -

Tory Chancellor Reginald Maudling left a note to Labour’s James Callaghan in 1964, reading, “Good luck, old cock … Sorry to leave it in such a mess.”

This subject has been covered a million times on MN and elsewhere.

Yes but that was following the global financial crash of 2008.

YABU.
Leave the grown ups to make the hard decisions and the toddlers to their whining Nigel.

Then they left a note saying there was no money left 🤦‍♀️

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/ce3xrz3drk9o

Yes interest is higher because our debt grew because of Truss and what her policies caused!!

That's really interesting. Where did you read about the £5,000 increase please?

Love this.

Slthough l am one of the older people, but still love it,

They are doing what they can with a bankrupt country.

She didn't need to raise taxes, the updated forecasts meant that she wasn't in the hole she could have been. Taxes have been raised to increase welfare spending, simple as that. It is a choice that she has made in order to redistribute wealth. It's nothing to do with public services it is wealth redistribution to appease the back benches.

LOL as if that is what they are getting. The average increase in benefits for larger families as a result of lifting the cap is £5000 a year. That is on top of what will already be a hefty package of handouts. It's not child benefit.

Blair’s Labour was great, I agree, shame he was a warmonger. I also can’t really pick many faults with this budget. We’re middle income earners and none of it really affects us. We don’t receive benefits but I think the cap lift is brilliant for those who do. We have an EV but meh, not really bothered because we still save overall compared to our old diesel. We don’t have a Band D or higher property. Great to hear min wage is rising and brilliant news for apprenticeships for young people.

To be honest, she taxed the wealthiest and I think that’s always the best solution.

I'm old enough to remember what Labour did last time they were in. It was bloody great.

Longest period of sustained low inflation since the 60s.
Low mortgage rates.
Introduced the National Minimum Wage and raised it to £5.52.
Over 14,000 more police in England and Wales.
Cut overall crime by 32 per cent.
Record levels of literacy and numeracy in schools.
Young people achieving some of the best ever results at 14, 16, and 18.
Funding for every pupil in England has doubled.
Employment is at its highest level ever.
Written off up to 100 per cent of debt owed by poorest countries.
85,000 more nurses.
32,000 more doctors.
Brought back matrons to hospital wards.
Devolved power to the Scottish Parliament.
Devolved power to the Welsh Assembly.
Dads now get paternity leave of 2 weeks for the first time.
NHS Direct offering free convenient patient advice.
Gift aid was worth £828 million to charities last year.
Restored city-wide government to London.
Record number of students in higher education.
Child benefit up 26 per cent since 1997.
Delivered 2,200 Sure Start Children’s Centres.
Introduced the Equality and Human Rights Commission.
£200 winter fuel payment to pensioners & up to £300 for over-80s.
On course to exceed our Kyoto target for reducing greenhouse gas emissions.
Restored devolved government to Northern Ireland.
Over 36,000 more teachers in England and 274,000 more support staff and teaching assistants.
All full time workers now have a right to 24 days paid holiday.
A million pensioners lifted out of poverty.
600,000 children lifted out of relative poverty.
Introduced child tax credit giving more money to parents.
Scrapped Section 28 and introduced Civil Partnerships.
Brought over 1 million social homes up to standard.
Inpatient waiting lists down by over half a million since 1997.
Banned fox hunting.
Cleanest rivers, beaches, drinking water and air since before the industrial revolution.
Free TV licences for over-75s.
Banned fur farming and the testing of cosmetics on animals.
Free breast cancer screening for all women aged between 50-70.
Free off peak local bus travel for over-60s.
New Deal – helped over 1.8 million people into work.
Over 3 million child trust funds have been started.
Free eye test for over 60s.
More than doubled the number of apprenticeships.
Free entry to national museums and galleries.
Overseas aid budget more than doubled.
Heart disease deaths down by 150,000 and cancer deaths down by 50,000.
Cut long-term youth unemployment by 75 per cent.
Free nursery places for every three and four-year-olds.
Free fruit for most four to six-year-olds at school.

£17.25 a week isn't going to encourage anyone to 'pop out as many kids as you can."

It may or may not be a good budget but I'm really sick of all this caricature 'political' commentary on so many threads, full of people claiming to know for a fact that the Labour government is being cretinously stupid and incompetent.

There is less and less actual political discussion on MN; more and more tribal hyperbole. I preferred it in the old days when our over-the-top forum fuming was restricted to little local squabbles like Moldies and Gina Ford, leaving us free to talk about politics in a more thoughtful and reality-anchored way than we seem to be able to do now.

Couldn’t agree more

Current Labour voters were wanted by oldies like me who can remember what they did last time they were in what would happen

and lo it’s come to pass

Of course they haven’t 😂 some pensioners paid in. Some didn’t. Some only worked 30 years, some worked part time, some had their stamp paid by a working partner.

Besides which, absolutely none of them paid in the value you would need to build a pension pot that pays out £750 a month