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whyohwhyisitalwayswet · 25/11/2025 12:47

Sorry, a bit long but don't want to drip feed!

My partner and I have a solid, happy relationship, have been together for over four years but are not married and don't live together. I'm in my early 50s, and he is in his late 50s. I have a child (early teens) at home, and he has adult children in their mid/late 20s. My only niggling issue is over how we share costs - day to day, as well as on an upcoming Christmas break.

As background we have different attitudes to money generally - I like hosting/being generous/paying for things in the expectation/hope that others will be generous too. He prefers to split costs (even small amounts). This took some getting used to initially as I would treat him to meals/things, and when it was his turn he would put things on the shared tab. I had to learn to put everything on the shared tab.

Question about splitting costs day to day: I don't drive and have less flexibility in my schedule because of my work and single parenting. Currently he drives to me (about 40 mins) every weekend, and I pay for all costs of meals/wine while we are at my place which is 2 nights/3 days usually, so much so that I even pay for takeout if we have it at my place. I've always thought that I end up paying a lot more than he does given the current arrangement, especially as we drink a couple of bottles of wine over the weekend. He covers petrol costs (and it is an electric car now, so much less) to come to me, but he is very helpful around the house (will sort out leaky taps etc), and will drop my son off at a playdate and such (usually short distances). When I have brought sharing of costs up he says I don't take into account the costs of running a car - insurance, servicing etc, so actually it evens out. But, is that something I should be taking into account (given he's always had a car and uses it for commuting to work/sport/socialising and not just to visit me)?

Question about splitting costs on holiday: If we eat out or are on holiday we split expenses fairly (I pay proportionally more if my DC is with us). This is fair I think. There are, however, occasions like this Christmas when my DC is with his dad. I want to spend two weeks by the beach, so I've booked an (expensive) rental. I was going to go anyway so didn't think to ask him to contribute. He is joining me for a week of the two weeks. I am sure that any wine/food we have that he pays for he will put all of that on the shared tab. I just got an order of wine in for home (I paid), and he suggested taking those bottles with us to the beach rental too. That got me thinking, I will pay for the rental and the wine??

Added complication is that we earned the same when we first met but he has since transitioned to a more rewarding but less remunerative career so now he earns less than half of what I do. However, he has substantial savings, and a pension pot whereas I still have a child at home, and a 1/3 of what he does in savings/pensions so do need to save.

So my questions are:

a) is how we split costs fair - day to day, and while on this Christmas holiday?

b) if not, how do I have this conversation with my partner?

Please don't tell me to LTB over this :). We have a very solid relationship, and I just want to be preemptive about this issue that does crop up. Thanks!

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whyohwhyisitalwayswet · 25/11/2025 17:37

nomas · 25/11/2025 17:35

A poster said that you're DP is 'straight' and wants things to be fair and you agreed and said he wants it all 'discussed/fair/straight'.

Me and another poster pointed out that he isn't 'straight' because he takes advantage of your friends treating him and doesn't discuss it.

I don't think you responded to those posts, so just pointing it out again.

In the context of the particular situations in which they treated us (we visited my city and they hosted us/took us out for meals, and I took them gifts too) it is hard to judge. But it is true that he hasn't raised it. And, I haven't either.

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whyohwhyisitalwayswet · 25/11/2025 17:35

apremoiledeluge · 25/11/2025 17:22

The more you say about him the worse it sounds really. You buy him fancy boots and nice presents for his kids (do they reciprocate?) and you get vouchers. He only gives your son a card no gift for his birthday? Like you say it's not just the monetary value it's the lack of symmetry in thoughtfulness and effort. He is lacking in this area but when you discuss it with him he'll probably twist it a bit e.g "you didn't have to get me the expensive boots, that was your choice" and he'd be partly right but unfair.

His kids do reciprocate with Christmas gifts - for me and my DC :)

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nomas · 25/11/2025 17:35

whyohwhyisitalwayswet · 25/11/2025 17:25

I guess they see it as treating 'us' and I do reciprocate with them so they don't see an issue. There is no express way in which this is addressed between us. No discussion on it. I see what you are saying though.

A poster said that you're DP is 'straight' and wants things to be fair and you agreed and said he wants it all 'discussed/fair/straight'.

Me and another poster pointed out that he isn't 'straight' because he takes advantage of your friends treating him and doesn't discuss it.

I don't think you responded to those posts, so just pointing it out again.

Nanny0gg · 25/11/2025 17:34

whyohwhyisitalwayswet · 25/11/2025 17:33

I'm changing only with respect to finance with him. Still the same generous person with my friends and family :)

My point stands

There's no compromise

Just change

Jammington · 25/11/2025 17:34

I think the 'he isn't tight, he just wants it to be fair' line is the biggest load of bullshit ever.
Because it's so absolutely NOT fair.

It's so crystal clearly not fair to 100+ random women on the internet that it cannot be in any way unclear to a fully functioning adult man who is gainfully employed, runs his own home & car and loves you, that he's being massively unfair.

Stop being all nice and all 'generosity is my love language' and tell your Bernard his tightness is very unattractive, you feel a bit ripped off and it's time to chip in for the wine & nibbles OR just take his turn to pay approximately 50% of the time, with no spreadsheets, tallys or questions asked.

I mean OP, how did you not lose your mind at the car insurance thing? Seriously, he would still have a car without the two 40-min journeys at a weekend?
It's comparable to your costal break, yet you're voluntarily paying for that 'because you're going anyway' - but you have to subsidise his car even though he'd have it anyway?

Urgh. You sound lovely OP, I just can't bear lovely people being taken advantage of.

whyohwhyisitalwayswet · 25/11/2025 17:33

Nanny0gg · 25/11/2025 17:32

So you're having to change to suit a man?

Have a good think about that

I'm changing only with respect to finance with him. Still the same generous person with my friends and family :)

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whyohwhyisitalwayswet · 25/11/2025 17:32

Nanny0gg · 25/11/2025 17:29

It's not a bit mean

It's very mean

How much is he saving on utilities when he's at yours?

So, in his divorce, his exW got the house (so he was fair/straight about it) so he is renting and has a housemate. Harder to tell how much he's saving on utilities etc when he is at mine, I guess.

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Nanny0gg · 25/11/2025 17:32

whyohwhyisitalwayswet · 25/11/2025 17:13

You are absolutely right - that is what is happening here! And, I think this is the conclusion I'm coming to as well - I just need to have a conversation and suggest we split everything down the middle. And, also as another poster advised - I need to mirror him in relation to gifts/treats etc.

It isn't 'me' though and feels off but I guess it is what it is!

So you're having to change to suit a man?

Have a good think about that

whyohwhyisitalwayswet · 25/11/2025 17:30

KoalaKoKo · 25/11/2025 17:23

Personally I have found when people are mean with money that they are fundamentally a bit self involved or selfish in other ways too, some are just better at hiding it! Some people are just takers and never want to give anything back!

In terms of his argument about not paying his share because he pays to run a car, that is nothing towards the cost of running a house. I pay household bills and run a car, the house costs a huge amount more!

Say you will pay the proportionate share for tax and insurance (half of two days a week would be 1/7th) and he can pay the proportionate share for heating, electricity, water and council tax for your home (a third of 2 days a week would be 2/21). Calculate your annual bills and get him to pay a third of every weekends worth! He pays less than a tenner in electricity to travel to see you but you cover his water, electricity, fancy bath salts, milk for his coffee etc… for the weekend. Those two things should be ignored!

I often go to stay with a friend, when I go to hers I come bearing booze and snacks (usually a bottle of nice gin, some wine and homemade cake), she does the same when visiting me, whoever is hosting provides the food, we split meals when going out and if we get takeaway we split it - she and I used to try and pay for each others but now we have called a truce and just split it.

Yes, that is the way it is with my friends - they come to visit with lots of gifts, will treat me when we go out etc. And, I will do similar with them.

So, the confusing thing about my DP is that he is generous with his time/effort/care with me and my DC, he is just tight (no avoiding that conclusion now, is there?!) with money.

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wfhwfh · 25/11/2025 17:29

whyohwhyisitalwayswet · 25/11/2025 17:25

I guess they see it as treating 'us' and I do reciprocate with them so they don't see an issue. There is no express way in which this is addressed between us. No discussion on it. I see what you are saying though.

I understand it from your friends’ perspective and you all seem to have a really reciprocal relationship with them. But i mean specifically from your partner’s perspective. He insists he is so set on fairness but lets your friends treat him and never feels any embarrassment that he isnt reciprocating.

Id outright say to him
”That’s twice X and Y have treated you tk a meal - youll need to arrange something for them or host them to a meal”.

Nanny0gg · 25/11/2025 17:29

whyohwhyisitalwayswet · 25/11/2025 16:53

I agree!!! This one is on me! I was trying to be nice, but I did breach our agreement.

But he bought my son a board game from a charity store while I got his children nice presents (and there are three of them with partners, and a grand kid, so not cheap). I put it down to his not having a job at the time, but it was my son's birthday a few weeks ago, and he just made him a card. He is great with spending time/effort/playing with my son, so I didn't say anything, but it did feel a bit mean.

It's not a bit mean

It's very mean

How much is he saving on utilities when he's at yours?

whyohwhyisitalwayswet · 25/11/2025 17:28

Tryingatleast · 25/11/2025 17:26

The one thing I’d worry about is that he’s turned you into a nit picker- the little things you joke about him using are probably not something you’d ever have commented on pre all of this (imo) craziness. There’s a chance you’re getting bitter and I think the two of you probably need to properly talk it out

This is spot on! I never even thought about all this before this relationship! And, now I'm questioning all my generous instincts and going ballistic over pastries 😅

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Tryingatleast · 25/11/2025 17:26

The one thing I’d worry about is that he’s turned you into a nit picker- the little things you joke about him using are probably not something you’d ever have commented on pre all of this (imo) craziness. There’s a chance you’re getting bitter and I think the two of you probably need to properly talk it out

whyohwhyisitalwayswet · 25/11/2025 17:25

wfhwfh · 25/11/2025 17:14

I can understand a bit him wanting things to be fair and upfront with the shared expenses. However, your friends treat him and be doesnt reciprocate - how does he address this? Id have to say something explicit about this because that is mean-spirited.

Ultimately, it is quite sensible to keep separate finances when you have your own families and homes. This is not a problem. However, i would stop subsidising him. If you want him round at the weekend, thats fine. But if you want a weekend to yourself or to make other plans, then do it. If he wants to see you and have a relationship, he needs to organise something. You shouldnt have to buy his affections.

I think your generosity and good manners are being used against you here - and i think that is very bad behaviour on his part.

I guess they see it as treating 'us' and I do reciprocate with them so they don't see an issue. There is no express way in which this is addressed between us. No discussion on it. I see what you are saying though.

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KoalaKoKo · 25/11/2025 17:23

Personally I have found when people are mean with money that they are fundamentally a bit self involved or selfish in other ways too, some are just better at hiding it! Some people are just takers and never want to give anything back!

In terms of his argument about not paying his share because he pays to run a car, that is nothing towards the cost of running a house. I pay household bills and run a car, the house costs a huge amount more!

Say you will pay the proportionate share for tax and insurance (half of two days a week would be 1/7th) and he can pay the proportionate share for heating, electricity, water and council tax for your home (a third of 2 days a week would be 2/21). Calculate your annual bills and get him to pay a third of every weekends worth! He pays less than a tenner in electricity to travel to see you but you cover his water, electricity, fancy bath salts, milk for his coffee etc… for the weekend. Those two things should be ignored!

I often go to stay with a friend, when I go to hers I come bearing booze and snacks (usually a bottle of nice gin, some wine and homemade cake), she does the same when visiting me, whoever is hosting provides the food, we split meals when going out and if we get takeaway we split it - she and I used to try and pay for each others but now we have called a truce and just split it.

apremoiledeluge · 25/11/2025 17:22

The more you say about him the worse it sounds really. You buy him fancy boots and nice presents for his kids (do they reciprocate?) and you get vouchers. He only gives your son a card no gift for his birthday? Like you say it's not just the monetary value it's the lack of symmetry in thoughtfulness and effort. He is lacking in this area but when you discuss it with him he'll probably twist it a bit e.g "you didn't have to get me the expensive boots, that was your choice" and he'd be partly right but unfair.

Hayley1256 · 25/11/2025 17:22

He didn't buy your DS a present - WTF? I'd would say something along the lines of ' oh I noticed you didn't get x a present so does that mean I shouldn't get your DC presents?'.

Also please start adding the weekend stuff to the joint tab including the takeaway. Do you ever go and stay with him?

wfhwfh · 25/11/2025 17:22

Sunshinesmon · 25/11/2025 17:17

This is all very interesting to me, as I'm in a similar situation.

As I said upthread, it can feel tight because he splits everything, whereas I'd say don't worry about the coffee in the expectation that he'd get the next one.

We're just back from holiday. Our arrangement was that I'd pay for everything and we'd split it when we get back. (Suits me, I like having control and I get the points on my card!).

We've been back a couple of days and I haven't worked out what he owes. He's just text to remind me, and also remind me that one of the supermarket shops included a (€5) pair of goggles for him, so I need to add that back, I.e. I'm not to pay for half his goggles.

So, for us, whilst it doesn't feel completely right to me to account for evey penny, it does work both ways. I'm not sure that's the case for you OP?

See this man, i can sympathise with! This is maybe someone with a different approach to money but NOT someone who is dishonest, selfish or taking advantage of anyone else

whyohwhyisitalwayswet · 25/11/2025 17:21

SquareHead37 · 25/11/2025 17:18

It’s not oversight.

It is inconceivable that he hasn’t noticed only his own expenses go on the tab. If it was oversight he would have said I’ll sort the tab out because you didn’t put the food /wine on it.

If I pay for meals/tickets when we go out, I do put it on the tab. I just don't put things I buy for home - groceries for meals I cook, wine for us on the weekend - on the tab.

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FastTurtle · 25/11/2025 17:21

workshy46 · 25/11/2025 17:17

So after you paid for accommodation , food, wine for the week he put a few pastries on the joint tab ? There have been numerous tight bastards threads recently but this one takes the biscuit. How can you find him remotely attractive. He is taking you for a complete mug. Hes relying on your generosity and feeling awkward about money discussions knowing there is a very good chance you won't bring it up or change your behavior. Like who spends 2/3 nights at someones house and doesn't bring wine or food or both.. doesn't even buy a take away and the costs for an electric car to yours would be mininal. If you do decide to stay with this cretin ( the bar must be rock bottom) then I would put absolutely EVERYTHING on the shared tab.. including all the food when he stays at yours. See how quickly he brings it up and questions it, I bet instantly.

Or do a shop together Saturday morning with lots of nice weekend treats etc and stick it on the joint tab. If he mentions electric for the car (which is peanuts) you mention hot water for his shower and so on.
Try this for a month.
i couldn’t be in a relationship like this.
The charity shop present for your DS sums him up.

BufferingAgain · 25/11/2025 17:20

That servicing/insurance comment. 🤣

whyohwhyisitalwayswet · 25/11/2025 17:20

Sunshinesmon · 25/11/2025 17:17

This is all very interesting to me, as I'm in a similar situation.

As I said upthread, it can feel tight because he splits everything, whereas I'd say don't worry about the coffee in the expectation that he'd get the next one.

We're just back from holiday. Our arrangement was that I'd pay for everything and we'd split it when we get back. (Suits me, I like having control and I get the points on my card!).

We've been back a couple of days and I haven't worked out what he owes. He's just text to remind me, and also remind me that one of the supermarket shops included a (€5) pair of goggles for him, so I need to add that back, I.e. I'm not to pay for half his goggles.

So, for us, whilst it doesn't feel completely right to me to account for evey penny, it does work both ways. I'm not sure that's the case for you OP?

Funny thing is that it is exactly like this - and very fair - on holidays or when we eat out. He will also do the excel sheet and make sure I don't pay for anything he bought for himself like your DP, but it is the day to day arrangement that is unfair. And, this Christmas break, which is different because I was going anyway etc.

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SquareHead37 · 25/11/2025 17:18

It’s not oversight.

It is inconceivable that he hasn’t noticed only his own expenses go on the tab. If it was oversight he would have said I’ll sort the tab out because you didn’t put the food /wine on it.

Sunshinesmon · 25/11/2025 17:17

This is all very interesting to me, as I'm in a similar situation.

As I said upthread, it can feel tight because he splits everything, whereas I'd say don't worry about the coffee in the expectation that he'd get the next one.

We're just back from holiday. Our arrangement was that I'd pay for everything and we'd split it when we get back. (Suits me, I like having control and I get the points on my card!).

We've been back a couple of days and I haven't worked out what he owes. He's just text to remind me, and also remind me that one of the supermarket shops included a (€5) pair of goggles for him, so I need to add that back, I.e. I'm not to pay for half his goggles.

So, for us, whilst it doesn't feel completely right to me to account for evey penny, it does work both ways. I'm not sure that's the case for you OP?

workshy46 · 25/11/2025 17:17

whyohwhyisitalwayswet · 25/11/2025 13:29

That's interesting -we seem to be in a similar situation but as you say yours is much fairer and more gracious by the sounds of it! Did you discuss him bringing wine/dessert or did he just do that seamlessly?

I don't (like to) think he actively takes advantage of me - I don't like to discuss finances and he just lets it slide. But it is silly on my part because I have gotten resentful and stewed in the past. Last year with this beach rental - by the time he arrived, I'd already spent quite a lot stocking up on wine/cheese/groceries which we used, and I was paying the rental too. The day after he arrived, he went out to get pastries for breakfast, and promptly put it on the shared tab. It was just a few pound but I got very cross at that!

How do I bring this up?

So after you paid for accommodation , food, wine for the week he put a few pastries on the joint tab ? There have been numerous tight bastards threads recently but this one takes the biscuit. How can you find him remotely attractive. He is taking you for a complete mug. Hes relying on your generosity and feeling awkward about money discussions knowing there is a very good chance you won't bring it up or change your behavior. Like who spends 2/3 nights at someones house and doesn't bring wine or food or both.. doesn't even buy a take away and the costs for an electric car to yours would be mininal. If you do decide to stay with this cretin ( the bar must be rock bottom) then I would put absolutely EVERYTHING on the shared tab.. including all the food when he stays at yours. See how quickly he brings it up and questions it, I bet instantly.