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Has Reeves hit a new low- saying it's misogyny?

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Christmaspuddingsss · 25/11/2025 07:59

I couldn't believe I was reading this today.

She accuses her critics of being against her budget plans because she is a woman. (But ignores the number of U turns she's done because of the criticism from back benchers)

Using the 'misogyny' card is really desperate IMO.

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TheNuthatch · 25/11/2025 09:35

The Rachel from accounts name was given after Reeves lied about her time at HBOS iirc. Specifically that her position was actually not as an economist, but in retail banking.

Her crying in the commons caused a market reaction as she is the chancellor. The same cannot be said of Hancock.

askmenow · 25/11/2025 09:34

zazazaaarmm · 25/11/2025 08:08

There is absolutely no doubt the media and society is hugely misogynistic especially to politicians.

The media is also extremely biased towards the right in the UK. The things they let the Tories off with is unbelievable.

That said it doesnt mean she is handling the budget well.

“Biased to the Right” You’re having a laugh! She’s bloody incompetent!

“ Rachel from Accounts” is a promotion for that idiot given she was in Customer Services.

Never has a budget been such a debacle. So inept and insecure are Labour , that she’s been testing what markets and backbenchers would accept for the past month.
The standard protocol is a budget purdah for a month prior.

The gilt market is in a worse state now than in Liz Trusses time but you don’t hear a whisper of it in MSM.
Right wing bias …my arse!

Half of all UK borrowing each month goes on national debt repayments. A Ponzi scheme!

twistyizzy · 25/11/2025 09:34

PandoraSocks · 25/11/2025 09:25

Oh for goodness' sake, Twisty. I asked you a genuine question. You could have just answered it without being snarky. That's all.

Then don't make up ficticious personal attacks......
Yes I reported those comments, yes I challenged them when I saw them.

SunnyViper · 25/11/2025 09:33

She is totally incompetent. Being a woman allows for more targeted and misogynistic criticism.

Southernecho · 25/11/2025 09:31

SpaceRaccoon · 25/11/2025 09:26

No, she's a useless chancellor who also happens to be a woman. I don't recall people crying about misogyny for Truss, either, and she didn't stoop to claim it.

Sorry but she did.

& she was right too.

StarlightRobot · 25/11/2025 09:30

It’s one thing for Rachel Reeves to call out misogyny when it happens. But today is the eve of the budget. Raising misogyny now feels like a way of deflecting from criticism when the public is seriously worried about her policies. In this context, she is pulling the misogyny card in a way that is deeply unhelpful.

PandoraSocks · 25/11/2025 09:30

poetryandwine · 25/11/2025 09:27

This, @ChardonnaysBeastlyCat

They didn't accuse him of giving men in high office a bad name when he was conducting an affair in the workplace during a time of national crisis, either.

EasternStandard · 25/11/2025 09:28

SpaceRaccoon · 25/11/2025 09:26

No, she's a useless chancellor who also happens to be a woman. I don't recall people crying about misogyny for Truss, either, and she didn't stoop to claim it.

The same pp probably went for Truss anyway. And other female politicians.

poetryandwine · 25/11/2025 09:27

ShesTheAlbatross · 25/11/2025 09:08

Urgh I know it wasn’t in the Commons but no one accused Matt Hancock of doing the entire male sex a disservice when he cried over the Covid vaccines.

This, @ChardonnaysBeastlyCat

SpaceRaccoon · 25/11/2025 09:26

No, she's a useless chancellor who also happens to be a woman. I don't recall people crying about misogyny for Truss, either, and she didn't stoop to claim it.

PandoraSocks · 25/11/2025 09:25

twistyizzy · 25/11/2025 09:16

Saying a remark is passive aggressive is a personal attack now? It comes across as a passive aggressive comment.......

Oh for goodness' sake, Twisty. I asked you a genuine question. You could have just answered it without being snarky. That's all.

Bushmillsbabe · 25/11/2025 09:25

There is definitely misogyny in politics, and racism. But the criticisms levelled at Reeves are nothing to do with her gender, they are to do with the fact that people are feeling worse and worse off economically, that she seems to be going back on her word about tax increases, and that she keeps changing her mind.

Southernecho · 25/11/2025 09:21

Kimura · 25/11/2025 09:18

How many male chancellors have been described in a similar way to 'Rachel from accounts'

Are you suggesting that previous chancellors haven't been referred to in derogatory ways in the media?

There will of course be misogyny directed at any woman in role, but the 'Rachel from Accounts' was very much brought on by her own actions, and would have happened to a man in the same scenario.

How? she was a BoE economist, for 6 years, thats a matter of fact, she exaggerated her time there but I don't see quite how that deserves being called "Rachel from Accounts"

EasternStandard · 25/11/2025 09:21

twistyizzy · 25/11/2025 09:17

Well unless they are stalking my every post on every thread......

Mm. And even then.

Bambamhoohoo · 25/11/2025 09:19

Christmaspuddingsss · 25/11/2025 09:15

It was on Linkedin- the equivalent.

Linked in is not a Cv and holds none of the weight of a cv

you know full well that pretending it’s a CV adds weight to the ideas she’s lied and been fraudulent- gaining a job by lying. This is not the case. Her job was not awarded due to her linked in narrative, neither would any job be.

Kimura · 25/11/2025 09:18

Bjorkdidit · 25/11/2025 08:06

There's definitely misogyny at play, and a lot of it on here, from women, which is shameful.

How many male chancellors have been described in a similar way to 'Rachel from accounts'. Or in the case of 'Angela from Housing', delving into her background in a critical manner rather than celebrating her being appointed as deputy PM?

How many male chancellors have been described in a similar way to 'Rachel from accounts'

Are you suggesting that previous chancellors haven't been referred to in derogatory ways in the media?

There will of course be misogyny directed at any woman in role, but the 'Rachel from Accounts' was very much brought on by her own actions, and would have happened to a man in the same scenario.

twistyizzy · 25/11/2025 09:17

EasternStandard · 25/11/2025 09:16

How would they know?

Well unless they are stalking my every post on every thread......

Christmaspuddingsss · 25/11/2025 09:17

OneBookTooMany · 25/11/2025 09:14

Was Margaret Thatcher also a victim of misogyny?

Theresa May, Lynn Truss and Rachael Reeves were all incompetent and made blunders-maybe they were victims of that.

All the recent changing of male Conservative prime ministers when they were in power-all because they had blundered or angered the party-they too were victims of their own making.

If they had all been women, would you say they had been victims of misogyny too?

All the laughing at David "Mastermind" Lammy, the sneering at Keir "Son of a Toolmaker"-if they were women, would they be victims of misogyny too? Or is because they are incompetent dicks?

Rachael was given the nickname Rachel from Accounts because she had tried to bull herself on her CV, the lie was discovered, she had not held a big job and this nickname was meant to highlight this and laugh at it, by exaggerating her lies and laughing at them. It's a comic technique.

Just as Jeremy Corbyn and his stupid schemes have led to his nickname of "Magic Grandad"

If he were a woman would that be misogyny?

When a woman is criticized by everyone-men and women (Ms Badenoch has criticized her and incidentally, Ms Badenoch has never claimed to be a victim of misogyny even though she has been roundly criticised ) and when a woman's reaction to that is to cry misogyny, she does us no favours.

RR is incompetent and laughable-that is why she is called incompetent and people-men and women-laugh at her.

Pleased to see at least one person here today is up to speed with how Rachel from Accounts originated.

Her whole past is one of being economical with the truth about her employment and why she left various roles.

As for the men in politics being treated more kindly- they aren't.

Jeremy Hunt was asked in a radio interview if he minded critics calling him Jeremy Cunt.

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EasternStandard · 25/11/2025 09:16

twistyizzy · 25/11/2025 09:15

"Never happened", you really do have a problem with me don't you?

How would they know?

CanSeeClearlyNowTheRainHasGone · 25/11/2025 09:16

Sunshinesmon · 25/11/2025 09:05

Yes this. All these actuations of U turns etc, we know nothing yet. She's been criticised for things she hasn't done. That will stick even if the budget is a dream come true. No one's ever done that to a man.

There always used to be budget purdah.

This budget has been nothing but endless pitch-rolling of possible policies, coming from speeches she's made, or OTR briefings by treasury officials, or from the IFS (whose policies she's linked to via Torsten Bell).

I get why, since the PLP are not interested in acknowledging that endless.benefits are a problem and think they wealthy should pay for everything, and because KS is so ineffectual he can't control his MPs or be assured of his tenure.

But none of that excuses the mayhem its caused and its not like this is the first time she's presided over this.

She's had the opportunity to gainsay what you see as media speculation but she's not done so until very late by which time the damage has been done.

To be honest I think we all.breathed a sigh of relief when she intimated that income tax would rise and be offset by NI reduction. It finally felt that the country was being put before party politics and that stability might reign. But no...

EasternStandard · 25/11/2025 09:16

SatsumaCandlesCloves · 25/11/2025 08:51

Labour is intrinsically sexist as a party and I've no doubt she's facing that from her own party.

Of course the wider criticism is of the dreadful budget to come for which she has totally gone back on her word for and will again and again
We won't be coming back for more

Wrapped in listen let.me.be clear

So she should aim it at her party. And we don’t need briefings every few days or every day.

It’s chaotic. And agree with your last part, people don’t like the gaslighting.

twistyizzy · 25/11/2025 09:16

PandoraSocks · 25/11/2025 09:14

No need for the personal attack. I was genuinely asking a question.

Saying a remark is passive aggressive is a personal attack now? It comes across as a passive aggressive comment.......

Christmaspuddingsss · 25/11/2025 09:15

Bambamhoohoo · 25/11/2025 09:13

It wasn’t a cv though was it?

It was on Linkedin- the equivalent.

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twistyizzy · 25/11/2025 09:15

Southernecho · 25/11/2025 09:12

She didn't because it never happened.

"Never happened", you really do have a problem with me don't you?

OneBookTooMany · 25/11/2025 09:14

poetryandwine · 25/11/2025 08:24

@NebulousWhistler makes a great point about Theresa May, also. A (female) senior Civil Servant I know who is personally quite left in her politics thinks TM was a victim of misogyny.

I am not a natural Tory but I think she was, so far, the best PM since I have moved to the UK. Boris decided to go for her jugular and the party backed him.

Was Margaret Thatcher also a victim of misogyny?

Theresa May, Lynn Truss and Rachael Reeves were all incompetent and made blunders-maybe they were victims of that.

All the recent changing of male Conservative prime ministers when they were in power-all because they had blundered or angered the party-they too were victims of their own making.

If they had all been women, would you say they had been victims of misogyny too?

All the laughing at David "Mastermind" Lammy, the sneering at Keir "Son of a Toolmaker"-if they were women, would they be victims of misogyny too? Or is because they are incompetent dicks?

Rachael was given the nickname Rachel from Accounts because she had tried to bull herself on her CV, the lie was discovered, she had not held a big job and this nickname was meant to highlight this and laugh at it, by exaggerating her lies and laughing at them. It's a comic technique.

Just as Jeremy Corbyn and his stupid schemes have led to his nickname of "Magic Grandad"

If he were a woman would that be misogyny?

When a woman is criticized by everyone-men and women (Ms Badenoch has criticized her and incidentally, Ms Badenoch has never claimed to be a victim of misogyny even though she has been roundly criticised ) and when a woman's reaction to that is to cry misogyny, she does us no favours.

RR is incompetent and laughable-that is why she is called incompetent and people-men and women-laugh at her.

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