Has Reeves hit a new low- saying it's misogyny?

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Yes i would be too apart from its not happened, the economy in Labours 1st 16months has done better than the last 16months of the Tories governance, which included 6 months of recession.

Unemployment was 8% under them, 5% now.

Stats can be used either way, so whilst its gone up since july 2024, the number of jobs in the economy are at record highs, as is tax take.

What qualifications are required to be Chancellor?

Cont’d … of the last decade - admittedly not a high bar

There is always room for misogyny.

The most highly decorated women in STEM, some of whom have been honoured by more than one Head of State, were regularly mocked through their careers (the most decorated ones are retired now) by snotty male undergraduates - as far as I can see, mainly because they did not dress or groom to please young men.

See also Theresa May, the best PM

‘Rachel from accounts’ is a response to the absolute porkers she’s told on her CV. People are rightly furious about this. She’s incompetent and unqualified for her position. Don’t give a rats ass whether she’s a woman. I do care about the wrecking ball she’s taken to the economy.

Jeremy Hunt was destroyed by the media when he was heading the NHS, and rightly so!

Im really tired of women using misogyny as a catch all for any criticism
This! Men don't pay much attention to it but neither do a majority of women any longer because the way it's branded about any time a woman is criticised, making her a poor, vulnerable, misunderstood victim on the spot!

Dredging up whataboutery from years ago, is that the best you can do?

Yes this is true but why the focus on 2/3 years at HBoS and not her 6 years at the Bank of England?

Jeremy Hunt broke anti money laundering rules, a far more serious thing, yet no one makes any reference to that, it was all "an admin error"

Male politicians are given so much slack
Where have you been in the last 10 years? Yeah Boris and his team never ever got criticised, especially during Covid 🤣

Perhaps if she was a competent chancellor there wouldn’t be room for misogyny.

It wasn't (just) the time she worked there. She claimed to have worked as an economist at HBOS. She actually ran a customer relations dept in their retail arm.

When the Times investigation made this public, she removed all mention of her working as an economist at HBOS from her online presence and replaced it with references to working in 'Retail Banking'. Her dept dealt mostly with complaints and mortgage retention.

When a politician - someone we hold to a high standard of truth as they ask us to trust them with running the country - gets caught fibbing, they get rinsed for it by the press, the public and their political opponents. Man or woman, black or white. Always have, always will.

The joke isn't that she's not a qualified economist, it's a reverse of the exaggeration she made. That she's a woman is irrelevant; 'Bob from Accounts' is the exact same joke.

And Spreadsheet Phil is...?

I've just seen some comments on this budget which I think are quite apt.

^No-one wants to be affected by anything, and any budget which impacts them or doesn't impact them positively is a "bad" budget.

I am expecting condemnation wholesale no matter what is announced tomorrow because some group or other will be assaulted/suffer a tax raid/made poorer/not get the positives things.

Labour could up all the "left-wing" child benefits and school lunches and it would be framed as helping selfish families with too many kids, or giving immigrants and scroungers free money.

They could tax millionaires, but then it would be framed as attacking the middle class, or forcing a exodus of talented people to leave the country.

They could hit income tax across all brackets, but then what about those poor mums with all their hungry kids and hardworking tradies just trying to earn a crust.

And if they don't raise taxes, then they'll be called out for not fixing the budget deficit and country debt.

Let's be honest, we're going to be told to hate this budget and Rachel Reeves regardless of what's in it.^

Quite. To add to your list, Commie Corbyn and Call me Dave.

Shes called Rach from accounts because she lied on her cv and is grossly under qualified.

Im really tired of women using misogyny as a catch all for any criticism.

I don't necessarily think being against the budget is misogyny but criticism of her and her budget (not what is in it) has definite been misogynistically based.

Rachel from Accounts for instance. Demeaning her to just a woman who works in a job that isn't public facing and is 'admin'.

She's a senior politician and needs to own her bad decisions

Her own party doesn't seem to agree with her either - is that misogyny or realism?

Hancock was allowed to cry. The reason is secondary. Of course he hasn’t complained. He had nothing to complain about

He distracted himself from the pandemic with an extramarital affair partially conducted in the workplace, This is grave and his preoccupation with personal affairs may well have been a contributory factor to the 23,000 avoidable excess deaths we have just learnt of.

As pointed out by PP, the criticism from those who are so vociferous towards the Chancellor has been strangely muted.

I think Rachel from Accounts annoyed me because I've worked in environments where its been "the girl in accounts 'The HR girl" but the men got 'Dave, Head of HR', 'Rosh, our Traineee Accountant',

I appreciate they use her name and the which is better than girl but its felt like a reference to that culture.

It also feels to me really dismissive of all women in back office roles. Like my friends in accounts are diminished by the slur too, even though I am sure some would make fine chancellors!

I do understand why it came about due to a lie, but I think the above it why it rankles me more than it probably should.

You need to have a look at your claims, she worked as an economist at the BOE

Truss too yields from 1.7% to over 4.5% and they ve never recovered, the Cons took debt from 65% 2010 to almost 100% by the time they left office.

Our debt and interest payments is not on Labour or Reeves.

On the "sent markets into a panic" yes they did, as they thought she was going to be sacked & monetary policy relaxed, she stayed, markets calmed & gilts are continuing to drop too...MSM are not reporting this!

That you think she is incompetent is a valid POV but the misogyny needs to stop.

Two things can be true -

1. She is subject to some misogyny in the way she is treated in general.
2. She is making a total mess of her job and this budget process in particular has been a total shambles which has already negatively impacted the economy and she's not even announced it yet.

She is not criticised because she is a woman.

She is rightly criticised because she is incompetent, over-promoted and not suited for the role of Chancellor. She has made one catastrophic decision after another. She also misrepresented her experience in her CV. Those are facts, not misogyny...

It is pathetic that she is now trying to claim that this is because she is a woman.

Starmer, who is also completely out of his depths, gets similar criticism and low poll ratings.

As a feminist it makes me angry when incompetent women try to play that card.

I voted Labour but I am appalled by every member of the current government.

I think that there has been misogyny, but there’s been a lot more incompetence. I don’t think that blaming misogyny is really going to cut it. It is frustrating watching someone make lots of crap decisions, then reverse them in favour of more crap decisions and then try to find people to blame. I have a lot of sympathy for the fact that her economic inheritance is terrible and the can’t spaff money around the way her backbenchers want her to. But she’s a grown up and she needs to have a decent plan and communicate it.

This what?

The Matt Hancock whataboutery?

What's your question? Has he been complaining of misogyny? Of misandry?

What's that to do with my reply to you wine?

But I looked it up and I don't mind him crying. It was a very emotional time and he cried because he was happy and proud of the vaccines. I was one of the first people to receive one, it allowed me to do my job.

It didn't send the financial markets in panic and it didn't do the country a disservice.

I cannot believe anyone with half a brain can't see it.