Has Reeves hit a new low- saying it's misogyny?

Linked in allows you to state your job title and how long you worked for an organisation. Reeves' wasn't inaccurate due to mergers or contract changes, it was inaccurate because she wanted to make herself sound more of an economic expert than she was.

The Covid antics of the Tory clowns were bad, yes, and they rightfully lost the election after it all came out.

No because she’s right. We’ve had many an incompetent chancellor. Most of them were men and not criticised in the way she has been.

You really think that her sex is why people don't like her?

most of your comment isn’t unique to the UK, new to the labour government or controllable.

the biggest mistake she’s making, which is straight out of the Tory playbook, is leaking extreme rumours beforehand to make her actual budget look better than the public are prepared for. It’s childish and patronising.

however, how this is criticism that can only be levelled at RR is beyond me

Misogyny? Pull the other one. The woman's a complete and utter incompetent.

And here we have it. Exhibit number 1 of how misogyny is rife and not just amongst men.

You haven't noticed the indecision and u-turns? You haven't noticed the lack of growth that Labour promised? You haven't noticed the lack of business confidence? You haven't noticed the problems in the jobs market? You didn't notice the very random press conference she did in which she blamed everything on everyone (from the Tory's to Donald Trump) to pave the way for breaking her election promises and then changed her mind about breaking her election promises?

This is why I hate politics. Some people are so firmly entrenched in being Labour or Tory, they just cannot see what's in front of them.

I see it as fair.

The display of tears on the Commons was not exactly professional, it did not do any women in high position jobs a service.

She can't pick and choose.

We'll see each other tomorrow evening, after "budget hell".
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Quite agree. She must be on the ropes now and trying to deflect. She is completely useless. Couldn’t even get the welfare bill down and crying does her no good. Looks weak and feeble. She was literally shaking and is clearly in the wrong role.

Well that was linked in, which isn’t a document of truth telling or DBs. My own is inaccurate because of the way it’s structured, it doesn’t allow for explanations such as merger, promotion or company changing name. For for example mine says I worked for x for 9 years when in fact I was contracted there for 12 months, working at companies that had been swallowed up by acquisition by them for the first 8.

I mean, it’s not as bad as awarding corrupt contracts or partying during Covid is it?

I've no doubt she has been on the business end of a good deal of misogyny. It's endemic in Westminster.

At the same time her tenure has been pretty uniformly disastrous and it's unfortunate that the legacy of the first female Chancellor which Labour seems to be trumpeting again, looks rather likely to be an unfortunate one.

See also the way Diane Abbott is discussed in the media (with the double whammy of racism)

Absolutely ; although some upset at this probably aimed it at other female politicians just not Labour ones.

I've lost track of her plans because they keep changing.

The 'Rachel from accounts' stuff was because she lied, or at least exaggerated, various parts of her career history - indicating she was an 'economist' at a bank when she'd actually been a retail complaints manager, and that she'd worked for the Bank of England for longer than she had. She should have been honest about her background. If she'd bigged up her CV to that extent for a corporate role and been found out, she'd be on a disciplinary.

I’m not being provocative but I don’t even see what she’s done that’s terrible.

and yes Rachel from accounts is highly misogynistic

The two things can be true at once.
She's made some terrible decisions.
And the misogynist comments started the minute she became chancellor.
Rachel from accounts is so trivialising, both to her and to any woman who works "in accounts".

The Boris comparison is interesting.

You only have to Google "Boris Funny Moments" to see endless reels of ziplines, putting umbrellas up badly and rambling media quotes.

Google ""Rachel Reeves funny moments" and it's all nasty parodies and videos of her crying.

I think there is some misogyny, alongside lots of reasonable criticism. I also suspect that the papers have leapt on her mentioning it because they know how badly it will go down. It helps nobody to accept the misogyny just because you think she’s doing a bad job. She’s not doing a bad job because she’s a woman.

The one and done slate clean after the last budget will get backlash. It should be at Starmer too.

It’s absolutely misogyny. And while I cannot prove that with any statistical data, as a lifelong Labour supporter, I must ascribe some sort of accusatory pejorative towards those who criticise people on my side, in the hopes that it distracts from any failings that they might have. Not that I believe she has any failings whatsoever, she’s doing an awesome job undoing all the machinations from those evil Tories!

It’s a shame really that she is not a person of colour, as a racism accusation can be so much more powerful.

I think you have to be being deliberately obtuse to pretend that criticism faced by female politicians is not couched in misogyny.

That is not the same as saying “the budget is great. She’s amazing! Anyone who says otherwise is a massive sexist!”

I think that, given the budget and the general misogyny, now was maybe not the best time for Reeves to make this point, because it gives people who want to wilfully misunderstand an opportunity to say “oh so I’m just sexist if I don’t like the budget then! Stop playing the misogyny card!”

@NebulousWhistler makes a great point about Theresa May, also. A (female) senior Civil Servant I know who is personally quite left in her politics thinks TM was a victim of misogyny.

I am not a natural Tory but I think she was, so far, the best PM since I have moved to the UK. Boris decided to go for her jugular and the party backed him.

Both Reeves and Starmer are accountable. Him even more so.

Exactly.

You can call her incompetent, unpopular, say she isntnup the the job, whatever, but Rachel From Accounts is misogynistic and it's being used to talk down to her.

The problem is that people either really don't see the misogyny OR they think its OK because its suits their purpose to mock her. Neither of which are good looks.

Why not just criticise her objectively and without being sexist?

Tbf, the one good thing about people using that term is that it's a walking red flag for who has internalised misogyny.