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Has Reeves hit a new low- saying it's misogyny?

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Christmaspuddingsss · 25/11/2025 07:59

I couldn't believe I was reading this today.

She accuses her critics of being against her budget plans because she is a woman. (But ignores the number of U turns she's done because of the criticism from back benchers)

Using the 'misogyny' card is really desperate IMO.

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Christmaspuddingsss · 25/11/2025 09:00

luckylavender · 25/11/2025 08:59

It’s still a misogynistic phrase however it originated

why? because her name was Rachel and not Roger?
Maybe she ought not to have lied on her CV.

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Bambamhoohoo · 25/11/2025 09:00

senua · 25/11/2025 08:47

Sorry, can someone explain what is misogynistic about it? Politician's get called all sorts (TwoTier Keir, FreeGear Keir, NeverHere Keir, etc) so why is RR's nickname so misogynistic. I don't doubt there is misogyny but I don't understand why this is called into question.

I don't like the moniker because it's disrespectful to those of us in accounts, 99% of whom could probably do a better job than her.

She is the chancellor of the exchequer, nominally the most powerful financial leader in the country.

would you call a female CFO “Sarah from accounts” no. Xyz from accounts refers to the person who processes invoices, approves payments, does payroll. Low level transactional work. It is misogynistic and fascinating in that none of the totally inexperienced male chancellors have been called the same

Christmaspuddingsss · 25/11/2025 08:59

luckylavender · 25/11/2025 08:58

Of course there’s misogyny. I saw a really interesting interview with Jeremy Hunt this weekend who said that budgets are always this chaotic & the only difference is that hers has played out in public & it usually happens behind closed doors.

But she started the leaks with her pre budget announcements and therefore created the shit show she's in.

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poetryandwine · 25/11/2025 08:59

ChardonnaysBeastlyCat · 25/11/2025 08:55

It sent the wrong signal at the wrong time.

People with half a brain and a quarter of a heart ought to be able to give proper context. How much of the population this includes, I am not prepared to say.

More likely, as usual, this kind of thing is used against a politician by people who are already against them. People who are neutral or supportive don’t tend to notice much. As in the workplace.

luckylavender · 25/11/2025 08:59

Christmaspuddingsss · 25/11/2025 08:57

To pick up on one comment - 'Rachel from Accounts' was based on her being economical with the truth on her CV and giving herself more credibility than she had.

The same as her experience at the Bank of England where she wasn't actually an economist.

It’s still a misogynistic phrase however it originated

Christmaspuddingsss · 25/11/2025 08:58

Southernecho · 25/11/2025 08:56

Jeez You re doing it.... its irrelevant, she is probably peri menopause, i thought she was extremely brave to go to the commons, despite how she was feeling, yet we have the idiots saying she "cried" = Unfit for Office.

Why shouldn't she "pull that card" if its true? How can we make life fairer for women if they have to stay silent?

Look how the media have attacked women of all political leanings? i really disliked Truss but the attacks were over the top

Oh for God's sake don't starting pulling the menopause card as well!
Is this where we've got to now with emancipation of women?

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luckylavender · 25/11/2025 08:58

Christmaspuddingsss · 25/11/2025 07:59

I couldn't believe I was reading this today.

She accuses her critics of being against her budget plans because she is a woman. (But ignores the number of U turns she's done because of the criticism from back benchers)

Using the 'misogyny' card is really desperate IMO.

Of course there’s misogyny. I saw a really interesting interview with Jeremy Hunt this weekend who said that budgets are always this chaotic & the only difference is that hers has played out in public & it usually happens behind closed doors.

Christmaspuddingsss · 25/11/2025 08:57

To pick up on one comment - 'Rachel from Accounts' was based on her being economical with the truth on her CV and giving herself more credibility than she had.

The same as her experience at the Bank of England where she wasn't actually an economist.

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Southernecho · 25/11/2025 08:56

StarlightRobot · 25/11/2025 08:08

It’s not misogyny for her terrible policies and performance to be criticised and it helps no woman for her to pull that card. We need to see her do better. Crying in Parliament didn’t help either.

Jeez You re doing it.... its irrelevant, she is probably peri menopause, i thought she was extremely brave to go to the commons, despite how she was feeling, yet we have the idiots saying she "cried" = Unfit for Office.

Why shouldn't she "pull that card" if its true? How can we make life fairer for women if they have to stay silent?

Look how the media have attacked women of all political leanings? i really disliked Truss but the attacks were over the top

AllJoyAndNoFun · 25/11/2025 08:56

The Rachel from Accounts thing only started when it was discovered that the narrative about her being a BofE economist was somewhat embellished. But I agree that it’s gone further than that now and that there is an element of misogyny to attitudes towards her. The problem is that she’s so publicly useless that it’s hard to defend her. At the same time most of the problems she has are from within her own party in terms of massively cutting down her options to deliver on the manifesto.

I really regret voting Labour now because I assumed Keir would keep the left wing under control like TB did but he hasn’t. It’s just reinforced my view that the Labour Party is unworkable in its current form as it’s too broad a church and nothing gets done.

Its not all RR’s fault but she’s the public face of it.

ChardonnaysBeastlyCat · 25/11/2025 08:55

poetryandwine · 25/11/2025 08:52

It was said to be personal; her absence that day would have also been criticised and the PM took the opportunity to reiterate his confidence in her.

we can all think of circumstances where we need to either absent ourselves or have a sniffle. I would say that about a politician of any party.

It sent the wrong signal at the wrong time.

Kitte321 · 25/11/2025 08:55

Bambamhoohoo · 25/11/2025 08:51

Why can’t you cry at work? I work for a PLc and a man cried in a SLT last month. No one criticised him.

I’m not sure. If I (I’m a woman) cried in a board meeting because our financial results weren’t up to scratch I think my CEO would question my leadership skills and resilience.
If I cried because a loved one was ill and I was sharing that news, I think that would be different.
Part of the job for RR is exuding confidence, setting the direction of travel and showing no doubt in her decision making.

ChardonnaysBeastlyCat · 25/11/2025 08:54

Bambamhoohoo · 25/11/2025 08:49

And crying honestly. Who cares about crying? Men go in there everyday and shout and jeer at each other like year 10s circling a fight.

for me I think it’s just the rise of normal people into government with normal emotions who didn’t has the privilege of getting it beaten out of them through the fagging system.

It’s a stressful, exhausting job and any normal person would be vulnerable to emotional however they display it. Starmer clenches up, she cried once. What’s so bad about emotion? Grow up.

I care because not only does it reinforce the helpless little woman trope, it was also at the worse possible moment .

It was during the welfare cuts debacle and it send a message of weakness in the Government plans.

GlassofRosePorfavor · 25/11/2025 08:52

third degree burns
milk snatcher
kami kwasi
leaky sue
yorkshire maharajah
never here kier

loads more I can't remember at the moment but feel free to add to my list 😂

Sunshinesmon · 25/11/2025 08:52

Of course it's misogyny. See also Angela Rayner. They've both made mistakes but not on the scale of numerous male policiticians who don't receive anything like the criticism.

poetryandwine · 25/11/2025 08:52

ChardonnaysBeastlyCat · 25/11/2025 08:42

I see it as fair.

The display of tears on the Commons was not exactly professional, it did not do any women in high position jobs a service.

She can't pick and choose.

It was said to be personal; her absence that day would have also been criticised and the PM took the opportunity to reiterate his confidence in her.

we can all think of circumstances where we need to either absent ourselves or have a sniffle. I would say that about a politician of any party.

SatsumaCandlesCloves · 25/11/2025 08:51

Labour is intrinsically sexist as a party and I've no doubt she's facing that from her own party.

Of course the wider criticism is of the dreadful budget to come for which she has totally gone back on her word for and will again and again
We won't be coming back for more

Wrapped in listen let.me.be clear

Bagsintheboot · 25/11/2025 08:51

It's worth bearing in mind we don't actually know what's in the budget yet and won't until tomorrow, so we should hold fire on that point.

It is abundantly clear that a lot of criticism of her is rooted in misogyny.

That does not mean she cannot be legitimately criticised.

I doubt any chancellor trying to put together a budget in this climate would be popular unless they were wildly irresponsible.

Bambamhoohoo · 25/11/2025 08:51

ChardonnaysBeastlyCat · 25/11/2025 08:49

Is it right to cry in a high powered place of work, or any place of work, in full display and to deflect by claiming misogyny?

Sure.

Why can’t you cry at work? I work for a PLc and a man cried in a SLT last month. No one criticised him.

Kitte321 · 25/11/2025 08:50

It’s nothing to do with being a woman for the vast majority of critics and everything to do with the fact her ideas are shit.

Bambamhoohoo · 25/11/2025 08:49

And crying honestly. Who cares about crying? Men go in there everyday and shout and jeer at each other like year 10s circling a fight.

for me I think it’s just the rise of normal people into government with normal emotions who didn’t has the privilege of getting it beaten out of them through the fagging system.

It’s a stressful, exhausting job and any normal person would be vulnerable to emotional however they display it. Starmer clenches up, she cried once. What’s so bad about emotion? Grow up.

Boomer55 · 25/11/2025 08:49

She’s hopeless as a Chancellor and would be if she was a man.

Bit pathetic of her to pull the old “sexism” card. 🙄

ChardonnaysBeastlyCat · 25/11/2025 08:49

HoskinsChoice · 25/11/2025 08:43

And here we have it. Exhibit number 1 of how misogyny is rife and not just amongst men.

Is it right to cry in a high powered place of work, or any place of work, in full display and to deflect by claiming misogyny?

Sure.

noworklifebalance · 25/11/2025 08:47

HoskinsChoice · 25/11/2025 08:17

Remember the mini-budget of 2022? 3 years on, we still talk about that and the disaster it was. At the time there was a female PM and a male Chancellor. Who do we/the media blame? The PM.

Now fast forward to current day where the government has made a complete mess of their PR with u-turn after u-turn and some very odd and unpopular economic decisions. We have a male PM and a female Chancellor. Who do we blame? The Chancellor.

Do you see a pattern...?

This irks me no-end! Kwarteng is not mentioned but Reeves always is and Truss is blamed but not Starmer? Gives me the rage.

However, I disagree with PPs re: Rachel from Accounta is misogynistic. It’s not to do with diminishing her role as Chancellor but to highlight her lies about her past employment.

Starmer is Two-tier Kier.
Wasn’t Phil Hammond “Spreadsheets Phil”? I am sure there are others.

senua · 25/11/2025 08:47

Sorry, can someone explain what is misogynistic about it? Politician's get called all sorts (TwoTier Keir, FreeGear Keir, NeverHere Keir, etc) so why is RR's nickname so misogynistic. I don't doubt there is misogyny but I don't understand why this is called into question.

I don't like the moniker because it's disrespectful to those of us in accounts, 99% of whom could probably do a better job than her.

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